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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
December 02 2024 00:45 GMT
#161
Gumigod! The people's champion!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3512 Posts
December 02 2024 00:46 GMT
#162
Clem got terran'd
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2648 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 00:52:44
December 02 2024 00:52 GMT
#163
Lmao Gumiho, what an absolute chad
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
768 Posts
December 02 2024 00:53 GMT
#164
On December 02 2024 09:46 darklycid wrote:
Clem got terran'd
Common, Clem played off-race for the first time on LAN.
He'd lose to a really strong zerg too, or would lose as zerg to a strong protoss player.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3512 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 00:55:58
December 02 2024 00:55 GMT
#165
On December 02 2024 09:53 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:46 darklycid wrote:
Clem got terran'd
Common, Clem played off-race for the first time on LAN.
He'd lose to a really strong zerg too, or would lose as zerg to a strong protoss player.

Oh im not too serious just funny to see clem lose the micro battle vs a terran :D
e: against the type of micro he likes to do himself alot as well
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
December 02 2024 01:00 GMT
#166
On December 02 2024 09:55 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:53 ZeroByte13 wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:46 darklycid wrote:
Clem got terran'd
Common, Clem played off-race for the first time on LAN.
He'd lose to a really strong zerg too, or would lose as zerg to a strong protoss player.

Oh im not too serious just funny to see clem lose the micro battle vs a terran :D
e: against the type of micro he likes to do himself alot as well

Terran is just more microable, it is what it is.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 01:10:57
December 02 2024 01:10 GMT
#167
It truly would have been too ridiculous if Clem pulled that off with Protoss. Good try though and congratulations to Gumiho.

The tournament was great fun, as always. It was nice to see some offline SC2 after the long break.

Many thanks to Take and team!
Mutation complete.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3512 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 01:15:05
December 02 2024 01:14 GMT
#168
On December 02 2024 10:00 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:55 darklycid wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:53 ZeroByte13 wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:46 darklycid wrote:
Clem got terran'd
Common, Clem played off-race for the first time on LAN.
He'd lose to a really strong zerg too, or would lose as zerg to a strong protoss player.

Oh im not too serious just funny to see clem lose the micro battle vs a terran :D
e: against the type of micro he likes to do himself alot as well

Terran is just more microable, it is what it is.

In those situations most definitely.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3003 Posts
December 02 2024 01:49 GMT
#169
GGs Clem's protoss made it exciting

and seRRal played well
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
December 02 2024 02:07 GMT
#170
Clem trying his hardest to help toss win something
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
December 02 2024 03:35 GMT
#171
Really says a lot about both Clem's lack of confidence in his TvT and the state of TvP that Clem feels he has a better chance of beating Gumigod in the match up that reddit INSISTS is completely broken in Terran's favor, rather than facing him in a mirror match up.

Can't really say I blame him. When Gumiho is on point with his TvT he is a SCARY opponent.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
December 02 2024 07:09 GMT
#172
Is a GuMiho return to PSISTORM too much to ask for?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6951 Posts
December 02 2024 07:53 GMT
#173
On December 02 2024 12:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Really says a lot about both Clem's lack of confidence in his TvT and the state of TvP that Clem feels he has a better chance of beating Gumigod in the match up that reddit INSISTS is completely broken in Terran's favor, rather than facing him in a mirror match up.

Can't really say I blame him. When Gumiho is on point with his TvT he is a SCARY opponent.


Well he did out TvT Heromarine, Maru and Clem himself. So it kinda makes a lot of sense. I remember Clem saying that his Protoss his just marginally weaker than his Terran and that he could beat anyone with his Protoss (even Serral)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12262 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 08:25:08
December 02 2024 08:22 GMT
#174
The strategy makes a lot of sense. If you are weaker in TvT and okay at PvT, and your opponent is good at TvT and weaker in TvP, it's a pretty simple equation.

To say that he can beat anyone with his Pvx, though, that's likely just delusion. Similar to how Reynor felt about his protoss in the beginning. If he truly believes that, reality will catch up to him.
No will to live, no wish to die
jack_less
Profile Joined May 2022
77 Posts
December 02 2024 08:23 GMT
#175
GG- GuMiho.
HSC except the lag, as always really good to watch.
Relaxed and entertaining.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4205 Posts
December 02 2024 09:28 GMT
#176
GGs Well Played
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1201 Posts
December 02 2024 09:41 GMT
#177
On December 02 2024 16:53 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 12:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Really says a lot about both Clem's lack of confidence in his TvT and the state of TvP that Clem feels he has a better chance of beating Gumigod in the match up that reddit INSISTS is completely broken in Terran's favor, rather than facing him in a mirror match up.

Can't really say I blame him. When Gumiho is on point with his TvT he is a SCARY opponent.

I remember Clem saying that his Protoss his just marginally weaker than his Terran and that he could beat anyone with his Protoss (even Serral)

Did he actually say this? I recall him or someone else saying during this HSC that his PvZ is substantially weaker than his PvT and PvP. As impressive as Clem's recent play has been, assuming he can beat Serral in a complete series with his offrace, in PvZ out of all matchups, seems preposterous.
Mutation complete.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
December 02 2024 10:32 GMT
#178
This is just like Reynor ZvZ situation all over again, but I have never heard about Clem not feeling confident about his TvT before.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
December 02 2024 11:29 GMT
#179
Clem's Toss is very very good and he's better than a lot of Toss players in the tourney with it, but I don't think he'd beat a properly top level Zerg in a series.

I think it is very much that TvT is his weakest match up, PvT is his best off race match up and TvP is arguably Gumi's weakest so why not roll the dice a bit in a more low stakes tourney.

---

Big love Take and the crew for persisting through all the tech troubles and keeping up the energy <3
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6951 Posts
December 02 2024 12:06 GMT
#180
On December 02 2024 17:22 Nebuchad wrote:
The strategy makes a lot of sense. If you are weaker in TvT and okay at PvT, and your opponent is good at TvT and weaker in TvP, it's a pretty simple equation.

To say that he can beat anyone with his Pvx, though, that's likely just delusion. Similar to how Reynor felt about his protoss in the beginning. If he truly believes that, reality will catch up to him.


Nah can't really compare the two IMO.
Reynor was mostly just goofing and avoiding a specific MU while Clem seems actually serious about his Protoss and is laddering a ton with it
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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