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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
August 18 2024 18:05 GMT
#1401
Kaelaris said "see you next time" and it is time to read a lot into that
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9282 Posts
August 18 2024 18:11 GMT
#1402
I was hoping they will somehow weld all those broken player keys to Clem's trophy. The hydraulic press was a poor execution of potentially neat idea.
You're now breathing manually
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18226 Posts
August 18 2024 18:12 GMT
#1403
It was a brutal, beautiful performance by Clem. It was the kind of beating so far Serral has been on the delivery side of, but never receiving. I guess he just learned what it feels like. He looked devastated, but I'm sure that with time he'll realise that being the second-best player in the world right now is not such a bad thing. And he still took home a cool 150k.

Also, really happy for TL. Those club points are amazing. Grats to Clem and TL!
toinewx
Profile Joined November 2013
53 Posts
August 18 2024 18:15 GMT
#1404
Good job Clem
Innovation mindset FTW
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
August 18 2024 18:17 GMT
#1405
On August 19 2024 03:11 Sent. wrote:
I was hoping they will somehow weld all those broken player keys to Clem's trophy. The hydraulic press was a poor execution of potentially neat idea.


I think the hydraulic press would be much more interesting if its shattering something more fragile like glass. The current iteration lacks some excitement.
xyfan
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary487 Posts
August 18 2024 18:19 GMT
#1406
On August 19 2024 02:54 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:52 Avicularia wrote:
GJ Clem, amazing play.

But Ghosts are problematic to balance. They are bad for almost all terrans in the world, but for those few who have AI like control - they is no counter.

I think the best idea would be to put hard limit of how many ghosts can be made at once, say 10 most. Another idea would be to lower their base attack, but buff survivability vs banes. It would help regular players, but then some units would start to counter them more (e.g. lings).

If you want to take the power from the Ghost away, then give that to something else. Tanks and Libs are strong defensively, but sucks to use against Spellcaster because of their immobility. Bio will be all-killed with a damn Fungal shot, Mech/Sky Mech are completely useless as well.


Ghost nerf is long overdue friend, and i'm not saying it because Clem won this tournament. I thought Ghost are the most OP unit in the game 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, 4 years ago etc. etc. I would also hope protoss gets some buff aswell, but oh well. SC2 is at the end of its lifecycle and i doubt it would receive any future patch let alone a major one.
Why so serious?
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 18 2024 18:22 GMT
#1407
[image loading]
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
August 18 2024 18:23 GMT
#1408
On August 19 2024 03:19 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:54 tigera6 wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:52 Avicularia wrote:
GJ Clem, amazing play.

But Ghosts are problematic to balance. They are bad for almost all terrans in the world, but for those few who have AI like control - they is no counter.

I think the best idea would be to put hard limit of how many ghosts can be made at once, say 10 most. Another idea would be to lower their base attack, but buff survivability vs banes. It would help regular players, but then some units would start to counter them more (e.g. lings).

If you want to take the power from the Ghost away, then give that to something else. Tanks and Libs are strong defensively, but sucks to use against Spellcaster because of their immobility. Bio will be all-killed with a damn Fungal shot, Mech/Sky Mech are completely useless as well.


Ghost nerf is long overdue friend, and i'm not saying it because Clem won this tournament. I thought Ghost are the most OP unit in the game 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, 4 years ago etc. etc. I would also hope protoss gets some buff aswell, but oh well. SC2 is at the end of its lifecycle and i doubt it would receive any future patch let alone a major one.


If the ghost has been so OP for 4+ years why has Zerg still won the vast majority of events during that time? Many of the event wins weren't even Serral.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3474 Posts
August 18 2024 18:23 GMT
#1409
On August 19 2024 03:19 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:54 tigera6 wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:52 Avicularia wrote:
GJ Clem, amazing play.

But Ghosts are problematic to balance. They are bad for almost all terrans in the world, but for those few who have AI like control - they is no counter.

I think the best idea would be to put hard limit of how many ghosts can be made at once, say 10 most. Another idea would be to lower their base attack, but buff survivability vs banes. It would help regular players, but then some units would start to counter them more (e.g. lings).

If you want to take the power from the Ghost away, then give that to something else. Tanks and Libs are strong defensively, but sucks to use against Spellcaster because of their immobility. Bio will be all-killed with a damn Fungal shot, Mech/Sky Mech are completely useless as well.


Ghost nerf is long overdue friend, and i'm not saying it because Clem won this tournament. I thought Ghost are the most OP unit in the game 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, 4 years ago etc. etc. I would also hope protoss gets some buff aswell, but oh well. SC2 is at the end of its lifecycle and i doubt it would receive any future patch let alone a major one.

You are missing the point, its not about Ghost is OP or not, its that they need to be OP for Terran to have chance in late game TvZ. Imagine no Ghost EMP/Snipe against Viper/Infestor, good luck defending against that.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 18 2024 18:23 GMT
#1410
Clem was on fire, absolutely deserved.
Of course would have loved to see a better final but can also enjoy a crushing like this.

Lets hope for a new mappool and hopefully some adjustments as well now that the world championship is over.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1267 Posts
August 18 2024 18:27 GMT
#1411
If this was a 5-4, you could make some arguments and excuses. Bracket-luck? Military service vs. Bootcamping in Korea? Balance or mappool? Luck?

But with a 5-0, it is as clear as it was with Serral/Maru before: The better player just won and even as a Zerg-lover, Serral-Fan and avid Terran-hater I can more than accept that and congratulate Clem! Kind of feels like this was his destiny, coming into the scene as "the choosen one", the one player who could make trouble for Serral (when Reynor stopped being able to do that consistently). Really thought Serral had him figured out by know, but Clem truely came back with a vengence.

Btw coming back: I really hope that wasn't the last hurrah and we get more. The scene has shown that we still have something to over. So lets do it again, ESL!


As a little history bit:
Clem might be the first player in the history of gaming (not just SC2) who technically won three titles with one final:
1)He succeeded Oliveira as the reigning World Champion of the EPT Circuit
2)He succeeded Reynor as the reigning Gamers8 Champion
3)Since the Saudis just bought up the company, he technically is also the successor to MaNa, the reigning E(S)WC Champion
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
August 18 2024 18:28 GMT
#1412
we need an update to TL.net front banner with a celebratory ribbon!
Drone is a way of living
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary487 Posts
August 18 2024 18:29 GMT
#1413
On August 19 2024 03:23 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 03:19 kajtarp wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:54 tigera6 wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:52 Avicularia wrote:
GJ Clem, amazing play.

But Ghosts are problematic to balance. They are bad for almost all terrans in the world, but for those few who have AI like control - they is no counter.

I think the best idea would be to put hard limit of how many ghosts can be made at once, say 10 most. Another idea would be to lower their base attack, but buff survivability vs banes. It would help regular players, but then some units would start to counter them more (e.g. lings).

If you want to take the power from the Ghost away, then give that to something else. Tanks and Libs are strong defensively, but sucks to use against Spellcaster because of their immobility. Bio will be all-killed with a damn Fungal shot, Mech/Sky Mech are completely useless as well.


Ghost nerf is long overdue friend, and i'm not saying it because Clem won this tournament. I thought Ghost are the most OP unit in the game 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, 4 years ago etc. etc. I would also hope protoss gets some buff aswell, but oh well. SC2 is at the end of its lifecycle and i doubt it would receive any future patch let alone a major one.

You are missing the point, its not about Ghost is OP or not, its that they need to be OP for Terran to have chance in late game TvZ. Imagine no Ghost EMP/Snipe against Viper/Infestor, good luck defending against that.


Well, i disagree, but let's not make a balance thread from this one.
Why so serious?
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
August 18 2024 18:40 GMT
#1414
Missed finals because of work, but holy shit, not the result I was expecting to see. 4-0 against herO, who dominated him in the last tournament they played. Then the most dominant grand finals win over Serral in the history of SC2 in the biggest SC2 tournament ever?

We all knew Clem was good, but to all the doubters, he now has nothing left to prove.

Huge congratulations to Clem and to TL.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 18 2024 18:45 GMT
#1415
Insane level of play.

Congrats Clem!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
535 Posts
August 18 2024 18:53 GMT
#1416
On August 19 2024 03:40 Kitai wrote:
Missed finals because of work, but holy shit, not the result I was expecting to see. 4-0 against herO, who dominated him in the last tournament they played. Then the most dominant grand finals win over Serral in the history of SC2 in the biggest SC2 tournament ever?

We all knew Clem was good, but to all the doubters, he now has nothing left to prove.

Huge congratulations to Clem and to TL.

No need for GSL? 😛
johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
124 Posts
August 18 2024 18:53 GMT
#1417
Even bigger than the $400k, Clem might just have given TL $2m extra team winning. Wonder if he gets a good share of that prize $.
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary487 Posts
August 18 2024 18:56 GMT
#1418
On August 19 2024 03:53 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 03:40 Kitai wrote:
Missed finals because of work, but holy shit, not the result I was expecting to see. 4-0 against herO, who dominated him in the last tournament they played. Then the most dominant grand finals win over Serral in the history of SC2 in the biggest SC2 tournament ever?

We all knew Clem was good, but to all the doubters, he now has nothing left to prove.

Huge congratulations to Clem and to TL.

No need for GSL? 😛


Unfortunately the level of GSL is very far from its former self. Now with Dark starting military service aswell, even more so. Nevertheless, i'd be sad to see it's gone.
Why so serious?
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
535 Posts
August 18 2024 18:58 GMT
#1419
On August 19 2024 03:56 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 03:53 HeroSandro wrote:
On August 19 2024 03:40 Kitai wrote:
Missed finals because of work, but holy shit, not the result I was expecting to see. 4-0 against herO, who dominated him in the last tournament they played. Then the most dominant grand finals win over Serral in the history of SC2 in the biggest SC2 tournament ever?

We all knew Clem was good, but to all the doubters, he now has nothing left to prove.

Huge congratulations to Clem and to TL.

No need for GSL? 😛


Unfortunately the level of GSL is very far from its former self. Now with Dark starting military service aswell, even more so. Nevertheless, i'd be sad to see it's gone.

I was being a bit cheeky, as not having a GSL is always held against Serral.
PremoBeats
Profile Joined March 2024
539 Posts
August 18 2024 18:59 GMT
#1420
Congratulations to Clem!
What an insane performance... he made this nearly look easy. Beating Serral 8-0 in the World Championship is utterly nuts. Overall he looked unstoppable and his skill level as a Terran is just inhuman. The level of greatness he displayed here was insane. He doubled his earning, marked his status as a world champion and can be incredibly proud of this tournament.

All the best to Dark for the MS. His interview was really sweet and I hope he can return in 2 years.

I am looking forward to see how everything will unfold. I guess Maru's dominance in Korea will only grow now that one of the main adversaries is gone.
Europe on the other hand has gotten another world champion. Clem is only 22 and can still grow so much as a player. I also want to see if Serral is able to adept or if Clem is becoming his first real Nemesis from here on out.

And happy birthday to herO. There are worse things than taking 80k home from a tournament
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