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Clem really still has Serral's number. At least more so than any other player. 3-0'ing a guy who's on a 26 match win streak is crazy
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On August 16 2024 04:26 Fango wrote:
Do we know who plays the 2nd vs 2nd winner and who plays the knockout winner ?
1st places of Group Stage will be on opposite side of Final Four bracket
Winner of 2nd vs 2nd Match will always play the 1st place of the other group
Winner of Knockout Bracket gets the remaining spot
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On August 16 2024 04:31 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:29 tigera6 wrote:
Just saying, but there is a larger chance of Serral getting dropped into the Knockout bracket considering it could be either Solar or Reynor against him. I doubt Solar gets trough Reynor and Cure/herO. I bet Cure plays like a god and then gets bobbed by Serral.
herO didnt look great to me, so Cure might just beat him straight up. And Solar/Reynor is a tossed up, but either of them would be heavy favorite against Cure. So my belief is a ZvZ in the 2nd place of group B.
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On August 16 2024 04:31 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:30 M2 wrote:
How are Showtime and Shin in the participants list, but not in the bracket? Can someone explain pls? They join in the knockout bracket.
Thanks
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On August 16 2024 04:33 FCHK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:26 Fango wrote:
Do we know who plays the 2nd vs 2nd winner and who plays the knockout winner ? 1st places of Group Stage will be on opposite side of Final Four bracket Winner of 2nd vs 2nd Match will always play the 1st place of the other group Winner of Knockout Bracket gets the remaining spot
Right so if Maru/Oliveira win 2nd vs 2nd they play Clem, and if Serral/Reynor win they play Dark?
Hopefully we get a non mirror final out of it at least
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On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year  Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all
Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much.
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Clem vs Dark finals would be sick.
Alternatively, Oliveira dropping to the knockout bracket, and then making a miracle run through it and making it to the final.
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On August 16 2024 04:37 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much.
Fortunately they can likely settle it in the 2nd vs 2nd match.
Out of shape Serral who can't practice due to military otherwise he would've won vs injured Maru who can't practice due to his wrists otherwise he would've won
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On August 16 2024 04:39 Acrofales wrote:
Clem vs Dark finals would be sick.
Then you better hope Maru got eliminated in the knockout bracket, because as frustrated I got with Maru playing TvZ, his TvT is still on another level.
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On August 16 2024 04:41 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:37 HeroSandro wrote:On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much. Fortunately they can likely settle it in the 2nd vs 2nd match. Out of shape Serral who can't practice due to military otherwise he would've won vs injured Maru who can't practice due to his wrists otherwise he would've won
This will only settle whether military is a better excuse than injury and not caring about international tournaments!
More seriously I don't think there's much to read into Serral losing 0-3 to Clem. Clem's a killer and if Serral is even at 95% Clem can tear him apart. When Serral is bullet proof (like in Katowice) Serral can 3-0 Clem too. Only time will tell if it's because Serral's form is poor or if something just happened to be off today.
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On August 16 2024 04:41 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:37 HeroSandro wrote:On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much. Fortunately they can likely settle it in the 2nd vs 2nd match. Out of shape Serral who can't practice due to military otherwise he would've won vs injured Maru who can't practice due to his wrists otherwise he would've won
I have actually done my military service in Finland, but not in the sport-unit. Maybe we can see the military man versus the broken man in this tournament 😎
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SoCal8910 Posts
addendum to the addendum to the GOAT list
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After an epic full Bo5 between Reynor and Clem, I was excited to see how Clem would stand up again Serral. I didn't care about who wins or loses, I just wanted to see more epic games, but that was just upsetting to watch. Serral didn't even look like Serral, and the fact that no caster mentioned the vast amount of uncharacteristic mistakes he was making also felt very ignorant. I'd be glad to see people rise above Serral, but I don't wanna see him lose like THIS. I know Clem's good, but this series felt so unmotivated... I hope to see Serral show better games moving on from here :prayge:
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On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all
Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc
At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped
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On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped
his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing?
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On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped
Jet lag is definitely a thing. Zerg was also obviously favored at certain times many of which coincide with a Maru loss at an international.
Serral is in military but we have no idea how much he is actually stopped from playing/practicing by military service. He's made it sound like it's not that big of a deal and has looked the same as always if not even more dominant than normal in all of his post military series until this one. For all we know he's been able to do the same amount of practice hours as he would have done if he wasn't in military. We know him and Oliveira have played 100+ customs post military starting. We also know he's played at least 150 ladder games in the last couple months. That's already a lot of games and doesn't include ladder on other accounts or other customs.
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On August 16 2024 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing?
And where did I mention or discredit injury was an invalid excuse?
The excuses I listed were all the common excuses we hear each and every time Maru loses outside of Korea.
How many times have we all witness his fanboys claim
When he wins, maru is godlike or best in the world
But when he loses, the salty tears and excuses comes out in full force
You can’t have it both ways.
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On August 16 2024 05:01 BluemoonSC wrote:
addendum to the addendum to the GOAT list
MaxPax is the GOAT?
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Northern Ireland25419 Posts
On August 16 2024 06:45 Blitzball04 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing? And where did I mention or discredit injury was an invalid excuse? The excuses I listed were all the common excuses we hear each and every time Maru loses outside of Korea. How many times have we all witness his fanboys claim When he wins, maru is godlike or best in the world But when he loses, the salty tears and excuses comes out in full force You can’t have it both ways.
Pretty much, some will try nonetheless
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On August 16 2024 06:45 Blitzball04 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2024 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ? Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament. And this tournament is triple elim lol Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral. Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing? And where did I mention or discredit injury was an invalid excuse? The excuses I listed were all the common excuses we hear each and every time Maru loses outside of Korea. How many times have we all witness his fanboys claim When he wins, maru is godlike or best in the world But when he loses, the salty tears and excuses comes out in full force You can’t have it both ways.
I mean maru lost too and you don't see anyone making excuses here. Only excuses I see are from serral fans but w.e
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