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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
August 15 2024 19:32 GMT
#241
Clem really still has Serral's number. At least more so than any other player. 3-0'ing a guy who's on a 26 match win streak is crazy
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
202 Posts
August 15 2024 19:33 GMT
#242
On August 16 2024 04:26 Fango wrote:
Do we know who plays the 2nd vs 2nd winner and who plays the knockout winner ?

1st places of Group Stage will be on opposite side of Final Four bracket
Winner of 2nd vs 2nd Match will always play the 1st place of the other group
Winner of Knockout Bracket gets the remaining spot
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3450 Posts
August 15 2024 19:33 GMT
#243
On August 16 2024 04:31 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:29 tigera6 wrote:
Just saying, but there is a larger chance of Serral getting dropped into the Knockout bracket considering it could be either Solar or Reynor against him.

I doubt Solar gets trough Reynor and Cure/herO. I bet Cure plays like a god and then gets bobbed by Serral.

herO didnt look great to me, so Cure might just beat him straight up. And Solar/Reynor is a tossed up, but either of them would be heavy favorite against Cure. So my belief is a ZvZ in the 2nd place of group B.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
August 15 2024 19:34 GMT
#244
On August 16 2024 04:31 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:30 M2 wrote:
How are Showtime and Shin in the participants list, but not in the bracket? Can someone explain pls?

They join in the knockout bracket.

Thanks
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 15 2024 19:36 GMT
#245
On August 16 2024 04:33 FCHK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:26 Fango wrote:
Do we know who plays the 2nd vs 2nd winner and who plays the knockout winner ?

1st places of Group Stage will be on opposite side of Final Four bracket
Winner of 2nd vs 2nd Match will always play the 1st place of the other group
Winner of Knockout Bracket gets the remaining spot

Right so if Maru/Oliveira win 2nd vs 2nd they play Clem, and if Serral/Reynor win they play Dark?

Hopefully we get a non mirror final out of it at least
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
532 Posts
August 15 2024 19:37 GMT
#246
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all

Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18185 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-15 19:40:47
August 15 2024 19:39 GMT
#247
Clem vs Dark finals would be sick.

Alternatively, Oliveira dropping to the knockout bracket, and then making a miracle run through it and making it to the final.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
August 15 2024 19:41 GMT
#248
On August 16 2024 04:37 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all

Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much.

Fortunately they can likely settle it in the 2nd vs 2nd match.
Out of shape Serral who can't practice due to military otherwise he would've won vs injured Maru who can't practice due to his wrists otherwise he would've won
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3450 Posts
August 15 2024 19:42 GMT
#249
On August 16 2024 04:39 Acrofales wrote:
Clem vs Dark finals would be sick.

Then you better hope Maru got eliminated in the knockout bracket, because as frustrated I got with Maru playing TvZ, his TvT is still on another level.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
August 15 2024 19:49 GMT
#250
On August 16 2024 04:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:37 HeroSandro wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all

Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much.

Fortunately they can likely settle it in the 2nd vs 2nd match.
Out of shape Serral who can't practice due to military otherwise he would've won vs injured Maru who can't practice due to his wrists otherwise he would've won

This will only settle whether military is a better excuse than injury and not caring about international tournaments!

More seriously I don't think there's much to read into Serral losing 0-3 to Clem. Clem's a killer and if Serral is even at 95% Clem can tear him apart. When Serral is bullet proof (like in Katowice) Serral can 3-0 Clem too. Only time will tell if it's because Serral's form is poor or if something just happened to be off today.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
532 Posts
August 15 2024 19:50 GMT
#251
On August 16 2024 04:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:37 HeroSandro wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all

Maru has not tried in an international tournament for decades. Can’t we have the army? Seriously going to the army will hinder you, but hard to say how much.

Fortunately they can likely settle it in the 2nd vs 2nd match.
Out of shape Serral who can't practice due to military otherwise he would've won vs injured Maru who can't practice due to his wrists otherwise he would've won

I have actually done my military service in Finland, but not in the sport-unit. Maybe we can see the military man versus the broken man in this tournament 😎
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
August 15 2024 20:01 GMT
#252
addendum to the addendum to the GOAT list
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
LordVaza
Profile Joined February 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-15 20:16:09
August 15 2024 20:12 GMT
#253
After an epic full Bo5 between Reynor and Clem, I was excited to see how Clem would stand up again Serral. I didn't care about who wins or loses, I just wanted to see more epic games, but that was just upsetting to watch. Serral didn't even look like Serral, and the fact that no caster mentioned the vast amount of uncharacteristic mistakes he was making also felt very ignorant. I'd be glad to see people rise above Serral, but I don't wanna see him lose like THIS. I know Clem's good, but this series felt so unmotivated... I hope to see Serral show better games moving on from here :prayge:
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
August 15 2024 21:00 GMT
#254
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all


Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc

At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
August 15 2024 21:07 GMT
#255
On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all


Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc

At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped

his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
August 15 2024 21:19 GMT
#256
On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all


Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc

At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped


Jet lag is definitely a thing. Zerg was also obviously favored at certain times many of which coincide with a Maru loss at an international.

Serral is in military but we have no idea how much he is actually stopped from playing/practicing by military service. He's made it sound like it's not that big of a deal and has looked the same as always if not even more dominant than normal in all of his post military series until this one. For all we know he's been able to do the same amount of practice hours as he would have done if he wasn't in military. We know him and Oliveira have played 100+ customs post military starting. We also know he's played at least 150 ladder games in the last couple months. That's already a lot of games and doesn't include ladder on other accounts or other customs.
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-15 21:45:31
August 15 2024 21:45 GMT
#257
On August 16 2024 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all


Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc

At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped

his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing?


And where did I mention or discredit injury was an invalid excuse?

The excuses I listed were all the common excuses we hear each and every time Maru loses outside of Korea.

How many times have we all witness his fanboys claim
When he wins, maru is godlike or best in the world
But when he loses, the salty tears and excuses comes out in full force

You can’t have it both ways.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4520 Posts
August 15 2024 22:07 GMT
#258
On August 16 2024 05:01 BluemoonSC wrote:
addendum to the addendum to the GOAT list

MaxPax is the GOAT?
hi. big fan.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
August 15 2024 22:10 GMT
#259
On August 16 2024 06:45 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all


Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc

At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped

his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing?


And where did I mention or discredit injury was an invalid excuse?

The excuses I listed were all the common excuses we hear each and every time Maru loses outside of Korea.

How many times have we all witness his fanboys claim
When he wins, maru is godlike or best in the world
But when he loses, the salty tears and excuses comes out in full force

You can’t have it both ways.

Pretty much, some will try nonetheless
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
114 Posts
August 15 2024 22:21 GMT
#260
On August 16 2024 06:45 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2024 06:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 06:00 Blitzball04 wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:26 Gescom wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:19 Fango wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:17 darklycid wrote:
On August 16 2024 04:13 Fango wrote:
Maru vs Serral 2nd vs 2nd match hype ?

Would be so funny if maru would finally be able to beat serral in the non finals they play this year

Serral can lose in single elim, but not in double elim. He just doesn't give away more than 2-3 games per tournament.

And this tournament is triple elim lol

Meh, maybe the army practice is catching up to him. The last tourney was a miracle tbh. But... I'd be foolish to actually doubt Serral.

Do we really have to bring the army thing in every time he loses as an excuse? He lost to Clem at Atlanta too and DH Dallas was one of his most dominant tourneys ever. He gets tons of time off to practice and there's zero indication his form has dropped at all


Not as often as people making all the excuses for Maru when he lost outside of Korea. Jet lag / saving builds/ didn’t take seriously/ not in form/ not caring / Zerg Imba, etc

At least Serral army thing is actually a REAL thing. Unlike all the phantom excuses people give to Maru when he gets stomped

his shoulder injury that had doctors telling him to stop playing isn't a real thing?


And where did I mention or discredit injury was an invalid excuse?

The excuses I listed were all the common excuses we hear each and every time Maru loses outside of Korea.

How many times have we all witness his fanboys claim
When he wins, maru is godlike or best in the world
But when he loses, the salty tears and excuses comes out in full force

You can’t have it both ways.


I mean maru lost too and you don't see anyone making excuses here. Only excuses I see are from serral fans but w.e
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