EPTTwo players will earn spots at the 18-player main event at the Esports World Cup
Esports World Cup 2024 - Last Chance Qualifier (July 4-7)
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Waxangel
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Two players will earn spots at the 18-player main event at the Esports World Cup
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Haku
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jimminy_kriket
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seopthi
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Waxangel
United States33201 Posts
On June 18 2024 05:34 seopthi wrote: Does anyone know if TY is going to give it a shot? or is he gone from sc2 altogether? He said this latest season of GSL was his retirement tournament. 'Retirement' is hardly a binding contract in SC2, but I seriously doubt he'll compete. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On June 18 2024 03:18 Haku wrote: Insane to think about this qualifier basically having a 15k prize for the players who qualifies haha That is pretty mental now you mention it. Coulda been even more if the prize distribution wasn’t so top-heavy too! | ||
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bulldozer06701
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On June 18 2024 04:43 jimminy_kriket wrote: MaxPax still hasn't pulled out. It would be awfully rude of him to pull out this late. I think we might see him play. Still thinking about this. I wonder if he has already pulled out though, and the standings just haven't been updated yet, or... | ||
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bigbasket
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Blitzball04
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On June 20 2024 15:36 WombaT wrote: That is pretty mental now you mention it. Coulda been even more if the prize distribution wasn’t so top-heavy too! Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo. No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho, | ||
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cookinrelaxin
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On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote: Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo. No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho, I think 15k is a big step up for almost everybody. | ||
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Philippe
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On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote: Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo. No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho, It's not radically different from the split of the last IEM earlier in the year. I don't see them deviating from the top heavy distribution, their reasons on doing so are pretty clear in the first place. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10317 Posts
On June 18 2024 04:43 jimminy_kriket wrote: MaxPax still hasn't pulled out. It would be awfully rude of him to pull out this late. I think we might see him play. Wow that would be so awesome. Poor Spirit, but I think Maxpax would be much more fitting. I hope he competes and doesn't let the pressure get to him. He could win it all, it would be glorious. Or at the least, push Serral or Maru in a 3-4 match. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On June 25 2024 06:39 Blitzball04 wrote: Paying the 12-18th place players 15k is already pretty generous imo. No offence but those players games are usually not as exciting or hyped in these kind of big tournaments because we know all of them are not even remotely close to having a chance to winning it For example 15k is already a big step up in pay for players such as coffee, Astrea, gumiho, Well such is the problem with throwing money at a mega tournament such as this in a scene that is in the state that it’s currently in. Certainly wouldn’t have been my first choice in how to use that kinda fund | ||
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JJH777
United States4378 Posts
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Philippe
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On June 27 2024 02:33 JJH777 wrote: Are the open qualifiers region locked or just on a specific server? Given the entry lists on the ESL website I assume it's region locked | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
Sadly that means the korean qualifier might be a bit bloated. Three slots after eight of the best Koreans already have a slot is...tragic to be honest. | ||
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dysenterymd
1177 Posts
On June 27 2024 06:12 Balnazza wrote: It's region-locked, though the European qualifier is actually the usual EMEA-qualify - not that it matters. Sadly that means the korean qualifier might be a bit bloated. Three slots after eight of the best Koreans already have a slot is...tragic to be honest. Stats/Shin/Bunny/Creator/Rogue/Nightmare are at least as good as any EU player who hasn't qualified yet, and better than most of them. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33201 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
On June 27 2024 06:54 dysenterymd wrote: Stats/Shin/Bunny/Creator/Rogue/Nightmare are at least as good as any EU player who hasn't qualified yet, and better than most of them. Might be...but then there are ~10 more slots for koreans most people have never heard about. On June 27 2024 07:02 Waxangel wrote: It's a peculiar choice since the Katowice qualifiers weren't region locked. I guess there's some "world cup" theming for EWC, but is there actually some higher-up at ESL/EWC who's gonna look at SC2 and say "hey why don't we have more players from Latin America" or something like that? Why not just try and get the best players in? I think just all EWC-qualifiers are region-locked? So it might really be that theme to have global representation...well, somewhat. It technically also aligns with the original ESWC who even had national-locked qualifiers. | ||
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Philippe
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On June 27 2024 07:02 Waxangel wrote: It's a peculiar choice since the Katowice qualifiers weren't region locked. I guess there's some "world cup" theming for EWC, but is there actually some higher-up at ESL/EWC who's gonna look at SC2 and say "hey why don't we have more players from Latin America" or something like that? Why not just try and get the best players in? Yeah I don’t really get that aspect of it. Especially as it somewhat overlaps with Katowice’s way of doing things in recent times. I quite liked when there were two WCs with pretty distinct identities, now you’ve got 2 where they’re kinda blurred a bit, indeed it’s almost as if Kato is a feeder tourney for this. Also very much reflected in the casting where we seemingly needed reminded about EWC seeds as much as who was advancing in such a prestige tournament. Blizzcon was more about Johnny Foreigner getting a shot at Korea’s best, with something of a trade off in gating out the field a little, and latterly the culmination of a whole circuit season. Where Kato was the crème de la crème mostly, hot players with direct qualifiers and an open bracket. Then WESG did a sorta semi-WCG thing for a bit, which actually coulda been great with a few tweaks/the passage of time where foreigners had a few more heavy hitters | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
On June 27 2024 15:51 WombaT wrote: Yeah I don’t really get that aspect of it. Especially as it somewhat overlaps with Katowice’s way of doing things in recent times. I quite liked when there were two WCs with pretty distinct identities, now you’ve got 2 where they’re kinda blurred a bit, indeed it’s almost as if Kato is a feeder tourney for this. Also very much reflected in the casting where we seemingly needed reminded about EWC seeds as much as who was advancing in such a prestige tournament. Blizzcon was more about Johnny Foreigner getting a shot at Korea’s best, with something of a trade off in gating out the field a little, and latterly the culmination of a whole circuit season. Where Kato was the crème de la crème mostly, hot players with direct qualifiers and an open bracket. Then WESG did a sorta semi-WCG thing for a bit, which actually coulda been great with a few tweaks/the passage of time where foreigners had a few more heavy hitters I mean...technically Katowice was also always a "feeder tournament" towards BlizzCon. That is one of the reasons why I, being in the minority there I know, count the "End-of-the-year"-World Championship as something higher than Katowice. But back in the day it might have different vibes, because Katowice basically always "opened" the circuit for the year, now it was kinda in the middle of it...and usually there were roughly nine months between Katowice and BlizzCon, so it would have always seemed a bit far away to talk about BlizzCon already. But between Kato and EWC there are only ~five months, so it feels much closer I guess? And in the end, Kato and EWC still have very different flairs. Katowice is basically the "King of the Weekenders", in terms of being "easy" to get into. This year for example, atleast that was the plan, only eight of the 24 slots would have come through invites, the rest was qualifier-based. Eventually we even get 19 qualification-slots from 24. And they were Open Qualifiers, too. Sure, on different servers, but you could try as often as you wanted to get into Katowice. EWC on the other hand will finish of a year and a half long circuit, so of course it tries to put emphasize on that. Lots of invites awarded throughout the circuit (good thing btw that Serral qualified again for EWC...it felt somewhat awkward that he would have gotten an inivte for a tournament he won over a year before the tournament), regional EPT points giving out some more slots, regionally locked qualifiers...and I will assume that if more than 16 players sign up for the qualifier, the ones with more points will get into it. | ||
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Harris1st
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RogerRa36787026
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On June 18 2024 04:43 jimminy_kriket wrote: MaxPax still hasn't pulled out. It would be awfully rude of him to pull out this late. I think we might see him play. black hoodie, scream or hacker mask and he's good to go | ||
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tigera6
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Asia: Cyan (Lancer) AM: Trigger KR: Rogue - Creator - Shin EU: Showtime - Skillous - Elazer | ||
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JJH777
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Die4Ever
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https://www.twitch.tv/wardiii  Esports World Cup/2024/Qualifier/KR | ||
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MJG
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Charoisaur
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40 minute bloodbath | ||
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Waxangel
United States33201 Posts
On July 04 2024 20:11 Charoisaur wrote: Bunny vs Creator game 1, game of the year 40 minute bloodbath I guess it was thrilling in a way, but Creator being possibly the worst basetrader of all time takes out a lot of the tension for me | ||
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Argonauta
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Argonauta
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Harris1st
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The Shield holds! | ||
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WombaT
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MJG
United Kingdom835 Posts
On July 04 2024 22:34 WombaT wrote: Is that it for the Korean non-qualified or can they try other regions? The qualifiers are region locked. | ||
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Devangel
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Topin
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edit: oh i just saw a post with the info | ||
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swarminfestor
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tigera6
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The closed qualifier will be a bit interesting, but I think Ragnarok and Showtime will make it through. Bunny might just destroy everyone and make it as well. | ||
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Kreuger
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4165 Posts
 or did I just misread the format on liquipedia? | ||
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darklycid
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Kashim
Poland1153 Posts
On July 06 2024 18:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote: why is it a bo5 in the qualifying match of the open qualifiers that lead into the closed qualifiers but only a bo3 in the closed qualifiers that lead directly to the main tournament? that makes absolutely zero sense at all.. or did I just misread the format on liquipedia? Upper Bracket Quarterfinals are Bo3 Remaining Upper and Lower Bracket matches are Bo5 Qualifying Matches are Bo7 | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17610 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
Edit: If it was done by points it would mostly hold up, just trigger and Elazer would need to swap. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16647 Posts
On June 25 2024 18:26 WombaT wrote: Well such is the problem with throwing money at a mega tournament such as this in a scene that is in the state that it’s currently in. Certainly wouldn’t have been my first choice in how to use that kinda fund I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it. I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years. money ain't everything man. you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4165 Posts
On July 06 2024 19:32 Kashim wrote: Upper Bracket Quarterfinals are Bo3 Remaining Upper and Lower Bracket matches are Bo5 Qualifying Matches are Bo7 ok so just a lack of info on liqui then thanks for clearing it up | ||
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Blitzball04
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On July 06 2024 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it. I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years. money ain't everything man. you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime. I personally prefer this current setup. One big prize pool for one tournment. Feels more hype/excited knowing the importance of this game / series. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On July 07 2024 11:30 Blitzball04 wrote: I personally prefer this current setup. One big prize pool for one tournment. Feels more hype/excited knowing the importance of this game / series. It’s more hyped it’s not how a sustainable scene works | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On July 06 2024 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think the competitive SC2 scene is awesome. The players are great. The games are wild. The maps are brilliantly crafted. The coverage of the events is great. There is just not much money in it. I think the Intercounty Baseball League is better than Major League Baseball. Intercounty baseball players make 30K and have other jobs. MLB players are all on steroids and HGH and make hundreds of millions of dollars. They are all well on their way to looking like Andre The Giant, Joe Rogan, and Barry Bonds due to all the HGH they've been taking for many years. money ain't everything man. you do make a good point that the money is not well spent. if the Saudi's took the money and spread it around to every person that holds weekly and monthly events that'd be ideal. Wardi would be a rich man... and he'd have earned every dime. Yeah I kinda get that, professional sport can hit a point where the fun is sucked out of it. Or the competitive balance or whatever. Any number of things, I’m a giant multi-sport freak and I’ve seen it enough | ||
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Balnazza
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sudete
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Topin
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Gescom
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darklycid
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Topin
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Balnazza
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JJH777
United States4378 Posts
On July 08 2024 02:28 darklycid wrote: feelsbad you could see how the bad server games just didnt go showtimes way Germany has a way bigger advantage in ping with both players on NA east server than KR has when they are on west though. Though ping probably impacts Toss micro a bit more than Zerg. Still overall server switching gives most of the western EU countries the advantage. Ironically it's only Serral out of the top EU pros who is actually on pretty equal ping terms with KR in online events. | ||
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darklycid
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On July 08 2024 02:34 JJH777 wrote: Germany has a way bigger advantage in ping with both players on NA east server than KR has when they are on west though. Though ping probably impacts Toss micro a bit more than Zerg. Still overall server switching gives most of the western EU countries the advantage. Ironically it's only Serral out of the top EU pros who is actually on pretty equal ping terms with KR in online events. Might be true buyt you could really see how different showtimes control looked from game to game in the fights. | ||
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Blitzball04
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On July 08 2024 02:29 Balnazza wrote: GG Shin, but I really hope Showtime pulls through...losing three important Bo7s in the span of ~two weeks doesn't feel right Nah it’s quite expected from showtime. Never once in his career he manage to win when all the marbles are on the line. How many times have we seen him losing the decider series against Koreans. Showtime is very consistent, but his fans will be disappointed if you ever expect him to pull off an upset | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1198 Posts
On July 08 2024 02:39 Blitzball04 wrote: Nah it’s quite expected from showtime. Never once in his career he manage to win when all the marbles are on the line. How many times have we seen him losing the decider series against Koreans. Showtime is very consistent, but his fans will be disappointed if you ever expect him to pull off an upset ShoWTimE did win a WCS though | ||
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Kreuger
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Gescom
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darklycid
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GoloSC2
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tigera6
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On July 06 2024 11:10 tigera6 wrote: My prediction was close enough, didnt expect Skillous got eliminated in PvP and Rogue to be on the same bracket with Ragnarok. The closed qualifier will be a bit interesting, but I think Ragnarok and Showtime will make it through. Bunny might just destroy everyone and make it as well. Now I want to see a CLOSE Serral - Maru Grand Final in EWC. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Also this was maybe the best I have seen Showtime play. Much more variety in his play. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On July 08 2024 04:55 Redox wrote: This qualifer has been so mucbn fun. And so much on the line. Deserved more viewers of course. Also this was maybe the best I have seen Showtime play. Much more variety in his play. It would have perhaps helped if it had been tagged under the SC2 category on Twitch, I only heard it was being streamed by virtue of never being off TL But yeah that was some enjoyable SC2 and Showtime was showing a good bit of range which is maybe something he’s lacked over the years | ||
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onPHYRE
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On July 08 2024 04:58 WombaT wrote: It would have perhaps helped if it had been tagged under the SC2 category on Twitch, I only heard it was being streamed by virtue of never being off TL But yeah that was some enjoyable SC2 and Showtime was showing a good bit of range which is maybe something he’s lacked over the years The advertising was awful for this event, I’ll give you that - but the stream was properly tagged to SC2. If you searched by game and filtered to most views (and not just recommended), it was the top stream the last few days. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
On July 08 2024 05:41 onPHYRE wrote: The advertising was awful for this event, I’ll give you that - but the stream was properly tagged to SC2. If you searched by game and filtered to most views (and not just recommended), it was the top stream the last few days. TIL… I assumed Twitch went subbed then most views by default when you’re browsing a category, cheers! | ||
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Waxangel
United States33201 Posts
On July 08 2024 04:58 WombaT wrote: It would have perhaps helped if it had been tagged under the SC2 category on Twitch, I only heard it was being streamed by virtue of never being off TL But yeah that was some enjoyable SC2 and Showtime was showing a good bit of range which is maybe something he’s lacked over the years It's interesting to me how there's a good contingent of casual viewers who don't check Reddit/Twitter/TL for news and would only be informed of something happening if the ESL_SC2 Twitch channel sent them a notification. Not being able to use that channel definitely hurt them a lot there  | ||
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Topin
Peru10044 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On July 08 2024 06:18 Waxangel wrote: It's interesting to me how there's a good contingent of casual viewers who don't check Reddit/Twitter/TL for news and would only be informed of something happening if the ESL_SC2 Twitch channel sent them a notification. Not being able to use that channel definitely hurt them a lot there Well, people are gonna miss the whole EWC when they rely on twitch notifications since all events are on "new" EWC channels lol. It's like the easiest thing to navigate the right side of TL.net though | ||
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Rachael
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On July 31 2024 15:04 Rachael wrote: Does Anybody Know How to watch EWC Live on my TV? Cast the stream to it if your TV is capable. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17610 Posts
On July 31 2024 15:04 Rachael wrote: Does Anybody Know How to watch EWC Live on my TV? It'll be on Twitch, so you can test with any other Twitch stream that's currently live. Try to cast it from your phone, or maybe your TV has a native Twitch app available. | ||
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Lewis2
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On August 01 2024 04:18 Die4Ever wrote: It'll be on Twitch, so you can test with any other Twitch stream that's currently live. Try to cast it from your phone, or maybe your TV has a native Twitch app available. Or buy a cheap firestick if your TV isn't up for it. Better navigating than most Smart TVs and IMO more stable Wifi connection than most Smart TVs | ||
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