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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-06 20:10:59
August 06 2023 20:06 GMT
#1221
Well, Tasteless, banes cost 2x minerals as gas, so of course the zerg building mass ling bane hydra is low on minerals and high on gas.
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
August 06 2023 20:07 GMT
#1222
22 hits of hellions one shot a queen !!!

men, just hire a worker instead xD
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
August 06 2023 20:07 GMT
#1223
On August 07 2023 04:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm as confused at Tasteless about how the 50 zerglings didn't get past the open depot with 1 marine on it

Man, I forgot about the bane hp buff until someone just mentioned it. Reverting bane hp buff would be the single cleanest way to try and fix zerg's power at the top level. The only reason it got buffed in the first place was due to ByuN microing really well vs single digit numbers of banelings in late 2016 and winning TvZ games nearly instantly

It’s a tricky balancing act, I’m not sure how Zerg hold some of these fiendish modern pushes with the old HP banes, equally when a Zerg gets to 80/90 drone eco they’re absurdly cost efficient even with basically human optimal splitting.

You really can’t control bio much better than Byun, Clem or Cure have shown this tournament, or Maru usually does when he has more TvZs and they’re still getting ground down
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
August 06 2023 20:10 GMT
#1224
On August 07 2023 05:01 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 05:59 Nakajin wrote:
On August 06 2023 05:45 Sent. wrote:
On August 06 2023 05:37 Nakajin wrote:
On August 06 2023 05:18 Pandain wrote:
The one plus is that the obvious tournament favorites are out so it's pretty exciting who will win. I just hope reynor doesn't win because he's pretty much the last remaining one you would normally pick as a favorite.

I think there's a good chance the last three series are bangers


I would bet Reynor to win on a 4 or 5 to 1 odd honestly. I think he's a massive favorite now. I don't trust anyone else to deliver


I'd give Cure like 65% chance to beat Reynor. Solar vs Reynor is either 50/50 or slightly Reynor favored in my opinion


To me those are esl weekly cup number 248 odds, but 150 k$ on the line with Reynor in the chair I don't think either Cure or Solar are likely to hold their composure.


I don't have good take often, so I'm just gonna bask in this one

Even if it’s a rarity I’m not giving you this take :p

Nout about this series has Cure lacking composure he’s just not pulling it off. Serral or Maru’s exits I think you can definitely attribute to flustered mistakes but Cure’s definitely been bringing solid play here
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2018 Posts
August 06 2023 20:10 GMT
#1225
Without saying it directly, Tastosis admit that map is a nightmare to play as a Terran. Too far to go, creep too op and no way to win by attrition either.

Also, banelings are so insanely good in large numbers it is strange Zergs bother building anything else.
Buff the siegetank
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-06 20:12:29
August 06 2023 20:11 GMT
#1226
''We've reached Neohumanity, we'd like to remind all passagers that the bus will say parked at the station for the next 50 minutes''

That you for choosing with Starcraft transport.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
August 06 2023 20:12 GMT
#1227
On August 07 2023 05:11 Nakajin wrote:
''We've reached Neohumanity, we'd like to remind all passagers that the bus will say parked at the station for the next 50 minutes''

That you for choosing with Starcraft transport.

Better hope Cure dies to the first few waves of 80 banes
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9335 Posts
August 06 2023 20:14 GMT
#1228
This is where we turtle and max out on ghosts (or die)
You're now breathing manually
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
August 06 2023 20:15 GMT
#1229
On August 07 2023 05:12 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2023 05:11 Nakajin wrote:
''We've reached Neohumanity, we'd like to remind all passagers that the bus will say parked at the station for the next 50 minutes''

That you for choosing with Starcraft transport.

Better hope Cure dies to the first few waves of 80 banes

Surely a game can't end by Zerg just a-moving a bunch of tier 1.5s!
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
August 06 2023 20:15 GMT
#1230
On August 07 2023 05:07 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2023 04:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm as confused at Tasteless about how the 50 zerglings didn't get past the open depot with 1 marine on it

Man, I forgot about the bane hp buff until someone just mentioned it. Reverting bane hp buff would be the single cleanest way to try and fix zerg's power at the top level. The only reason it got buffed in the first place was due to ByuN microing really well vs single digit numbers of banelings in late 2016 and winning TvZ games nearly instantly

It’s a tricky balancing act, I’m not sure how Zerg hold some of these fiendish modern pushes with the old HP banes, equally when a Zerg gets to 80/90 drone eco they’re absurdly cost efficient even with basically human optimal splitting.

You really can’t control bio much better than Byun, Clem or Cure have shown this tournament, or Maru usually does when he has more TvZs and they’re still getting ground down

The hp buff only affects banes AFTER bane speed upgrade is finished. Zergs regularly hold early game pushes with slowbanes.

It would also buff Protoss vs Zerg because it makes it obviously easier to stop baneling runbys if the banes die faster.

Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
August 06 2023 20:15 GMT
#1231
Oh, Cure killed the fourth, would be a shame if the map were gigantic and Reynor built two more miles away
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
August 06 2023 20:16 GMT
#1232
On August 07 2023 05:15 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2023 05:07 WombaT wrote:
On August 07 2023 04:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm as confused at Tasteless about how the 50 zerglings didn't get past the open depot with 1 marine on it

Man, I forgot about the bane hp buff until someone just mentioned it. Reverting bane hp buff would be the single cleanest way to try and fix zerg's power at the top level. The only reason it got buffed in the first place was due to ByuN microing really well vs single digit numbers of banelings in late 2016 and winning TvZ games nearly instantly

It’s a tricky balancing act, I’m not sure how Zerg hold some of these fiendish modern pushes with the old HP banes, equally when a Zerg gets to 80/90 drone eco they’re absurdly cost efficient even with basically human optimal splitting.

You really can’t control bio much better than Byun, Clem or Cure have shown this tournament, or Maru usually does when he has more TvZs and they’re still getting ground down

The hp buff only affects banes AFTER bane speed upgrade is finished. Zergs regularly hold early game pushes with slowbanes.

It would also buff Protoss vs Zerg because it makes it obviously easier to stop baneling runbys if the banes die faster.


The biggest thing in PvZ would be that banelings die with 3 storm ticks instead of 4 currently
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-06 20:19:03
August 06 2023 20:18 GMT
#1233
On August 07 2023 05:15 Durnuu wrote:
Oh, Cure killed the fourth, would be a shame if the map were gigantic and Reynor built two more miles away

I feel like Zerg used to really need to hold those sorts of pushes, and if they lost their 4th to those sorts of pushes, they'd almost always shortly thereafter lose the game.

What changed, exactly, to allow zergs to expand so much faster, while not weakening their army much at all?

On August 07 2023 05:16 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2023 05:15 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On August 07 2023 05:07 WombaT wrote:
On August 07 2023 04:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm as confused at Tasteless about how the 50 zerglings didn't get past the open depot with 1 marine on it

Man, I forgot about the bane hp buff until someone just mentioned it. Reverting bane hp buff would be the single cleanest way to try and fix zerg's power at the top level. The only reason it got buffed in the first place was due to ByuN microing really well vs single digit numbers of banelings in late 2016 and winning TvZ games nearly instantly

It’s a tricky balancing act, I’m not sure how Zerg hold some of these fiendish modern pushes with the old HP banes, equally when a Zerg gets to 80/90 drone eco they’re absurdly cost efficient even with basically human optimal splitting.

You really can’t control bio much better than Byun, Clem or Cure have shown this tournament, or Maru usually does when he has more TvZs and they’re still getting ground down

The hp buff only affects banes AFTER bane speed upgrade is finished. Zergs regularly hold early game pushes with slowbanes.

It would also buff Protoss vs Zerg because it makes it obviously easier to stop baneling runbys if the banes die faster.


The biggest thing in PvZ would be that banelings die with 3 storm ticks instead of 4 currently

Ah, I did not know that, but I think that would be a good change to buff protoss.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 06 2023 20:20 GMT
#1234
that 33 snipe is catastrophic for Cure...
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 06 2023 20:20 GMT
#1235
Reynor with some impressive control, hes everywhere
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 06 2023 20:21 GMT
#1236
can his army do it ?
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
August 06 2023 20:22 GMT
#1237
Reynor has 5 lurkers vs mass bio/thor, Cure is toast
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-06 20:22:57
August 06 2023 20:22 GMT
#1238
Well GG Reynor, enjoy all that Saudi money
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 06 2023 20:22 GMT
#1239
On August 07 2023 05:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
can his army do it ?

no
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
August 06 2023 20:24 GMT
#1240
Welp congratulations Reynor, some $O$ vibes from the Italian
WriterMaru
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