EPTAh... Xainon vs Koreaboo, those were the days
[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 14
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Ah... Xainon vs Koreaboo, those were the days | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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mintyminmus
Australia127 Posts
It would be a great run for TIME no matter winning or losing. I also like Reynor's chances a lot more as the last foreigner still in the field. | ||
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Elentos
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
rofl. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Or maybe it's just about lunchtime in EU. Serral won his world championships while looking dominant in ZvZ, I didn't have high hopes for him after watching the groupstage. I was rooting for Reynor and herO this time, anyway. | ||
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tigera6
3443 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:37 Waxangel wrote: Eh I'm a big everything is valid person. Like I hate all that stuff about people trying to discredit the Lakers NBA championship in the bubble, and I hate the lakers too  Well, even ESL was implying that IEM was not "legit" because they cut the entire prize pool by 50%. | ||
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Elentos
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Waxangel
United States33494 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:37 Elentos wrote: Wasn't it Lambo saying that nobody in Europe was practicing ZvZ these days and that Serral laughed at him when he asked him to play? I thought it was the other way around where Serral said he couldn't get anyone to practice with him cause he was the only one in the ZvZ hell group | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:37 Hider wrote: No that's why you retreat further back and then pull drones. You just need to win a few seconds there. Most of them were just about to pop out. Serral not even attempting to retreat indicated he wasn't aware just how much he had in production. There is almost zero chance he doesn't survive that engagement if he does that. I see him shaking his head at 2:51:14 in the vod. He has 42 army supply of which 26 are not on the field, 6 queens and his last couple of roaches are surrounded. He has nothing to retreat with. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16017 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:37 Hider wrote: No that's why you retreat further back and then pull drones. You just need to win a few seconds there. Most of them were just about to pop out. Serral not even attempting to retreat indicated he wasn't aware just how much he had in production. There is almost zero chance he doesn't survive that engagement if he does that. yeah also a lot of Ragnaroks army supply was also in eggs or crossing the map. At the time Serral left he was maybe down 4-5 Roaches which can be easily stalled with a drone pull and he had 12 Roaches in production while Ragnarok was only reinforcing lings. I stand by it, the game was over in Serral's favor | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:41 tigera6 wrote: Well, even ESL was implying that IEM was not "legit" because they cut the entire prize pool by 50%. That's not exactly fair. They can't offer the same amount of money when they are making only a fraction on the event that they normally do. Though I suppose that same logic applies to that tournament costing a lot less as well. I don't know. Like I said, I want to say Reynor's IEM trophy is legit, but that "offline" qualification is bound to pop up in the future.So might as well just accept it's going to happen. | ||
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FCHK
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Glorfindelio
220 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:33 dysenterymd wrote: I personally consider it half a world championship because it was online. Not a knock on Reynor, he played so well and is clearly capable of winning an offline world championship, but there will always be that asterik on that win. Ehh, hasn't Reynor also been a finalist at the last three world championships? I get the sentiment with the online component, but that win was well-deserved considering who he played | ||
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Luolis
Finland7142 Posts
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Elentos
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Blissyu2
Australia19 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:44 Glorfindelio wrote: Ehh, hasn't Reynor also been a finalist at the last three world championships? I get the sentiment with the online component, but that win was well-deserved considering who he played Being a finalist doesn't count for much in SC2's GOAT conversations. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:45 Elentos wrote: The peak of 2 starport BC play is still TY beating Serral with 2/1/1 into surprise 2 port BC. Nah, that stupid scrappy game Innovation won vs Serral takes the cake. Somewhere much lower down the list is Oliveira vs Reynor game 1. | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1213 Posts
On February 12 2023 22:29 Argonauta wrote: Just rewatched G5, at some point Serra scouted with a ling drones moving from the natural entrance to the third like normal droning, but Ragnarok was transfering workers from either the nat or the main to the 3rd to make the illusion of droning. Props to Ragna for that. Good point. This may have been the major part of Serral's rationale for gg'ing. It seems unlikely that he thought he would not hold the push eventually, even with some losses. Probably he thought after defending he would be massively behind in economy, whereas in actuality they would be on roughly equal footing. | ||
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