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Let s hope Reynor stays in Korea for longer and improves from today. It feels like he was better mecanically but lacked specific preperation and got "out-prepared" The Koreans realy did their homework today. Reynor said in his interview with Harstem, he s not realy a preperation player and goes more with guts feeling, that might have cost him today. GGs to the Koreans
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Prop to Reynor for not chickening out to participate Code S. He liked to take risk, and that was how GOAT contender should behaved.
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On August 25 2022 21:26 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:25 Circumstance wrote: Let it be noted that Astrea was the highest-placing foreigner in the GSL this season. How about cumulative earnings? Scarlett made the most? In the GSL specifically? I haven't done the research, but I would imagine either her or a Swede from back in the Swedish era.
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And people wonder why I say that Serral has no claim to the title of SC2 GOAT because he's never played in a GSL Code S.
Big ups to Reynor for at least coming out to compete, but holy shit is this is a wake up call to everyone in SC2 including me that were starting to doubt the elite level that Code S sits at.
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On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages.
Rogue made thrice I guess. Maru, one time if I am not mistaken.
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On August 25 2022 21:29 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:26 swarminfestor wrote:On August 25 2022 21:25 Circumstance wrote: Let it be noted that Astrea was the highest-placing foreigner in the GSL this season. How about cumulative earnings? Scarlett made the most? In the GSL specifically? I haven't done the research, but I would imagine either her or a Swede from back in the Swedish era. I don't think it's a good metric anyway considering how differently the money got split over the years. Like, you get 3k for ro20 this year, which is basically equal to a top 8 in 2013.
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On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages. Except for Trap before his last season! He has made so many consecutive ro8 it's impressive
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On August 25 2022 21:29 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:26 swarminfestor wrote:On August 25 2022 21:25 Circumstance wrote: Let it be noted that Astrea was the highest-placing foreigner in the GSL this season. How about cumulative earnings? Scarlett made the most? In the GSL specifically? I haven't done the research, but I would imagine either her or a Swede from back in the Swedish era.
Yeah, I think Scarlett managed to break the group stage many times and arrived to quarterfinal one time. She should gain the most cumulative earnings in GSL among the foreigners?
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Neeb's and Jinro's records remain untouched
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On August 25 2022 21:25 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:24 Poopi wrote: Even with Stats, TY, Zest, INno... gone, world champions can bomb out in group stage... Welcome to Code S, Reynor! i mean yeah, I kinda expected this. Reynor is not used to the GSL, the format, the country, the food, his new living situation... and these players in this group are not exactly slouches
and the jet lag, dont forget the jet lag
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On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages.
I wouldn't say the overall level of play is the main issue. Otherwise Koreans would dominate the foreign tournaments as well and that's not really the case. It's just that GSL is, purely because of the format, a different type of tournament that requires a different set of skills.
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On August 25 2022 21:32 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:25 Schelim wrote:On August 25 2022 21:24 Poopi wrote: Even with Stats, TY, Zest, INno... gone, world champions can bomb out in group stage... Welcome to Code S, Reynor! i mean yeah, I kinda expected this. Reynor is not used to the GSL, the format, the country, the food, his new living situation... and these players in this group are not exactly slouches and the jet lag, dont forget the jet lag There's no jet lag involved in GSL since the players are living in Korea for a time.
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On August 25 2022 21:32 sudete wrote: Neeb's and Jinro's records remain untouched
I don't think Reynor will give up. He will try the next year season based on his attitude so far.
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On August 25 2022 21:33 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages. I wouldn't say the overall level of play is the main issue. Otherwise Koreans would dominate the foreign tournaments as well and that's not really the case. It's just that GSL is, purely because of the format, a different type of tournament that requires a different set of skills.
As far as I am aware, region lock for Koreans still exists.
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On August 25 2022 21:32 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:29 Circumstance wrote:On August 25 2022 21:26 swarminfestor wrote:On August 25 2022 21:25 Circumstance wrote: Let it be noted that Astrea was the highest-placing foreigner in the GSL this season. How about cumulative earnings? Scarlett made the most? In the GSL specifically? I haven't done the research, but I would imagine either her or a Swede from back in the Swedish era. Yeah, I think Scarlett managed to break the group stage many times and arrived to quarterfinal one time. She should gain the most cumulative earnings in GSL among the foreigners?
I would assume she does by quite a large margin.
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Finally a third CC in a TvZ! Let's go Dream!
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On August 25 2022 21:33 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages. I wouldn't say the overall level of play is the main issue. Otherwise Koreans would dominate the foreign tournaments as well and that's not really the case. It's just that GSL is, purely because of the format, a different type of tournament that requires a different set of skills. They dominate foreign tournaments though, except for like Serral and Reynor and sometimes Clem and Heromarine. DRG also eliminated Serral from DH Last Chance. The average level of play in korea is still way higher even though the very top foreigners have closed the gap.
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I feel like Reynor didn't show proper respect to GSL's nature. Given his 3-3 result against Dark with Protoss recently, he's probably been practicing Protoss since the announcement that he can't off race, which just feels silly when Code S is such an all-consuming tournament. Not saying that he necessarily would have advanced if he was allowed to play Protoss, just that the way he used his time pre-GSL was questionable to say the least.
I'm sure he'll learn though and come back some other time. Hope Serral makes the trip too next year, though I'm not holding my breath.
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On August 25 2022 21:38 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:33 Swisslink wrote:On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages. I wouldn't say the overall level of play is the main issue. Otherwise Koreans would dominate the foreign tournaments as well and that's not really the case. It's just that GSL is, purely because of the format, a different type of tournament that requires a different set of skills. As far as I am aware, region lock for Koreans still exists.
Not even sure, but there are many international tournaments that take place over 2-3 days and foreign players tend to do well there even if Koreans participate. GSL with its week long preparation just seems to favor Koreans. Which is perfectly fine, but it's not because the overall level is just that much higher nowadays.
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On August 25 2022 21:38 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2022 21:33 Swisslink wrote:On August 25 2022 21:28 Fango wrote: Anyone can lose in GSL groups. Even in 2022 the depth of high level players is such that anyone can lose in the group stages. I wouldn't say the overall level of play is the main issue. Otherwise Koreans would dominate the foreign tournaments as well and that's not really the case. It's just that GSL is, purely because of the format, a different type of tournament that requires a different set of skills. As far as I am aware, region lock for Koreans still exists.
My dumb question: Can Reynor join DH SC2 Masters 2022 Atlanta: Europe later on?
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