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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 07 2022 14:18 GMT
#241
Yup this is what I hate about mass Thor armies. Such a clunky deathball you're basically just banking on your opponent not engaging right and if they do, you're fucked. Lambo took his time and carved apart that army piece by piece. Very well done.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-07 14:21:00
August 07 2022 14:19 GMT
#242
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring/efficient statballs
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 07 2022 14:20 GMT
#243
This game has gotten pretty exciting though.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 07 2022 14:21 GMT
#244
On August 07 2022 23:19 Waxangel wrote:
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring statballs


The worst.

It's the only way I beat better Zergs than me is by massing them. They're disgusting units.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
August 07 2022 14:22 GMT
#245
Amazing final 10 minute finishing sequence
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
August 07 2022 14:23 GMT
#246
Time was just playing better the whole time
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 07 2022 14:23 GMT
#247
On August 07 2022 23:19 Waxangel wrote:
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring/efficient statballs


I hate them. I've always hated them. I don't even like how they work with the lore flavour of Terran.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
August 07 2022 14:24 GMT
#248
Lambo allowing Time free-mining those 2 left bases for too long, 10 Crackling would really hurt Time economy on that base with the OC.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
August 07 2022 14:25 GMT
#249
On August 07 2022 23:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2022 23:19 Waxangel wrote:
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring/efficient statballs


I hate them. I've always hated them. I don't even like how they work with the lore flavour of Terran.

Just replace them with Goliath would be great then :D
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-07 14:25:40
August 07 2022 14:25 GMT
#250
On August 07 2022 23:19 Waxangel wrote:
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring/efficient statballs


At ladder level I hate them waaaay more as Zerg - at least the Terran opponent massing ghosts has to do stuff to win the fight ;P

I do wonder what sort of changes could be made to some combo of creep, ghosts, thors and broods to try change the pace of this MU a bit. Something to keep players off lategame armies and turtling a bit more. Terran feels forced into a lot and as a Zerg facing and watching it is bad for blood pressure.

EDIT: Exciting to see how well Time is playing tho.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2750 Posts
August 07 2022 14:25 GMT
#251
Sometimes, lambo seems really the best at dealing with ghost/thors.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-07 14:31:27
August 07 2022 14:27 GMT
#252
On August 07 2022 23:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2022 23:19 Waxangel wrote:
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring/efficient statballs


I hate them. I've always hated them. I don't even like how they work with the lore flavour of Terran.


They don't.

Thors were originally designed to be hero units for Terran, along with the Queen for Zerg and Mothership for Protoss. It was one of David Kim's teams original ideas that was scrapped in alpha for Wings of Liberty.

They thought the Thor model was too cool to get rid of so they just turned it into a big bulky Goliath that wasn't designed properly to do what the Goliath was really good at which was GtA anti-air. Overtime the design of the Thor was adjusted to resemble that role more and more, till the point that we have the Thor that we have today.

It's a relic of the "principle of cool" that drove a lot of WoL's bad game design that they were in love with too much to get rid of, a lot like Warp Gate.



Skip to 7:34 that's what the original design looked like. If you've ever played the WoL campaign you'll recognize that model design as the Odin from the campaign.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2750 Posts
August 07 2022 14:30 GMT
#253
On August 07 2022 23:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2022 23:12 stilt wrote:
On August 07 2022 22:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
Lambo charges face first into sieged tanks, widow mines, deployed Liberators and a Planetary.

Twitch chat: Ghosts unfair!

Never change Twitch chat.


Zerg are generally forced to this kind of trade in this ghost meta.


The META dictates I must face tank a Planetary with Lurkers. I MUST do it! /s


The meta dictates the terran growth must be delayed even at the cost at cost inefficient trade, sometimes it can go really bad, sorry if you don't get it.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 07 2022 14:32 GMT
#254
On August 07 2022 23:25 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2022 23:23 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On August 07 2022 23:19 Waxangel wrote:
ppl complain about ghosts but Thors are just such boring/efficient statballs


I hate them. I've always hated them. I don't even like how they work with the lore flavour of Terran.

Just replace them with Goliath would be great then :D


Even Goliaths I'm not super fond of, original Terran's kinda scrappy aesthetic doesn't feel like it works great with bipedal mechs, but the Thor and Odin take it to ridiculous extremes.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 07 2022 14:32 GMT
#255
On August 07 2022 23:30 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2022 23:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 07 2022 23:12 stilt wrote:
On August 07 2022 22:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
Lambo charges face first into sieged tanks, widow mines, deployed Liberators and a Planetary.

Twitch chat: Ghosts unfair!

Never change Twitch chat.


Zerg are generally forced to this kind of trade in this ghost meta.


The META dictates I must face tank a Planetary with Lurkers. I MUST do it! /s


The meta dictates the terran growth must be delayed even at the cost at cost inefficient trade, sometimes it can go really bad, sorry if you don't get it.


It's you that's not understanding what I am making fun of.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
August 07 2022 14:33 GMT
#256
Neeb Nexus first is super bold ngl
Faker is the GOAT!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
August 07 2022 14:37 GMT
#257
Only Protoss is strong enough to beat Battery Overcharge
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
August 07 2022 14:37 GMT
#258
yeah Nexus first is not really viable ig
Faker is the GOAT!
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2750 Posts
August 07 2022 14:41 GMT
#259
At least it's not the boring mass phoenix vs phoenix
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-07 14:42:30
August 07 2022 14:41 GMT
#260
Hot Shield Battery on Shield Battery action.

EDIT: The team colours on the Shield Batteries is pretty awful.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
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