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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
July 03 2022 21:32 GMT
#1161
This was a great tournament, many thanks to everyone involved again!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
July 03 2022 21:35 GMT
#1162
On July 04 2022 06:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2022 06:23 JJH777 wrote:
I can't imagine herO winning GSL when I look at the last 5 years of Protoss results. The Protoss that breaks this P losing streak in 6 figure events will be the true goat.

Reynor offrace
(joke aside herO is the more likely to break the curse imo, he has the unashamed attitude needed, excellent skills and no weak mu in the current meta. I put him at 3) for the odds but it's like 35% for Maru / Dark and 30% for herO, very close if you ask me)

so all other players combined have a 0% chance to win?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-03 21:37:17
July 03 2022 21:36 GMT
#1163
On July 04 2022 06:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2022 06:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 04 2022 06:23 JJH777 wrote:
I can't imagine herO winning GSL when I look at the last 5 years of Protoss results. The Protoss that breaks this P losing streak in 6 figure events will be the true goat.

Reynor offrace
(joke aside herO is the more likely to break the curse imo, he has the unashamed attitude needed, excellent skills and no weak mu in the current meta. I put him at 3) for the odds but it's like 35% for Maru / Dark and 30% for herO, very close if you ask me)

so all other players combined have a 0% chance to win?

honestly imo yeah, negligible. Especially with Creator and Cure already in dire straits in their group.
(feel free to save and show it to me when Zoun lifts the trophy)
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-03 21:38:34
July 03 2022 21:38 GMT
#1164
Creator also has a shot at GSL with a good bracket. As did Zest before retirement.

But it's hard to imagine anyone beating Dark or Maru in a bo7
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
765 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-03 21:42:43
July 03 2022 21:38 GMT
#1165
On July 04 2022 06:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:I put him at 3) for the odds but it's like 35% for Maru / Dark and 30% for herO, very close if you ask me)


I'd say 50% for Dark, 25% for Maru, 15% for herO and 10% for everyone else combined.
Bunny, DRG, Zoun and maybe even Cure & Creator if they manage to get top-3 in ther group - they all have about 1-2% chance in my book.

Remember GSL S3 in 2021 - who could have predicted Zest-Cure finals before Ro8 or even Ro4?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 03 2022 21:39 GMT
#1166
On July 04 2022 06:38 Fango wrote:
Creator also has a shot at GSL with a good bracket. As did Zest before retirement.

But it's hard to imagine anyone beating Dark or Maru in a bo7

The problem for Creator is that he's almost out already because he tilted so hard in his first 2 matches.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
July 03 2022 21:39 GMT
#1167
On July 04 2022 06:38 Fango wrote:
Creator also has a shot at GSL with a good bracket. As did Zest before retirement

I don't see how Creator qualifies. Unless he wins vs Dark ? But I don't see that happening.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
July 03 2022 21:40 GMT
#1168
On July 04 2022 06:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2022 06:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 04 2022 06:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 04 2022 06:23 JJH777 wrote:
I can't imagine herO winning GSL when I look at the last 5 years of Protoss results. The Protoss that breaks this P losing streak in 6 figure events will be the true goat.

Reynor offrace
(joke aside herO is the more likely to break the curse imo, he has the unashamed attitude needed, excellent skills and no weak mu in the current meta. I put him at 3) for the odds but it's like 35% for Maru / Dark and 30% for herO, very close if you ask me)

so all other players combined have a 0% chance to win?

honestly imo yeah, negligible. Especially with Creator and Cure already in dire straits in their group.
(feel free to save and show it to me when Zoun lifts the trophy)

Hmm I guess you're right (though I'd say everyone else has maybe 5% chance combined).
Didn't realize how few top tier players are left
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 03 2022 21:42 GMT
#1169
I would say the chances of winning for Zoun, Ragnarok and Bunny aren't 0 but they're so low I'd file it under freak accident if it happened.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
July 03 2022 21:44 GMT
#1170
On July 04 2022 06:23 JJH777 wrote:
I can't imagine herO winning GSL when I look at the last 5 years of Protoss results. The Protoss that breaks this P losing streak in 6 figure events will be the true goat.


Zest had the best chance after he stopped rogue streak

However Zest follow up with an epic choke job against cure in the finals
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
765 Posts
July 03 2022 21:44 GMT
#1171
Again, who could have predicted last years Zest-Cure finals before Ro8 or even Ro4?
Rogue, Dark, Trap and Maru all were much bigger favourites. So everything can happen even if it's not likely.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-03 21:54:35
July 03 2022 21:50 GMT
#1172
On July 04 2022 06:44 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Again, who could have predicted last years Zest-Cure finals before Ro8 or even Ro4?
Rogue, Dark, Trap and Maru all were much bigger favourites. So everything can happen even if it's not likely.

It's a good argument. Of course we can have surprises and I'm all for another surprise winner, Cure's victory was very heartwarming I felt. But imo it's hard not to consider Maru / herO / Dark the huge favorites so that's my stance

(Zest-Cure in 2021 S3 relied a lot on the bracket though, you had Rogue - Dark and Trap - Maru in the ro8 while dark horses played together (Zest - Dream and Cure - Parting). Zest still had to beat Rogue 4-3 and that was a huge performance, but if he had played like Rogue in ro8 and then Dark he probably never gets to the finals. But I agree we can get strange things like that this season, let's say Ragnarok wins his ZvZ and ends first, then Dark can potentially meet herO before the semis for instance)
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
July 03 2022 21:55 GMT
#1173
Tbh the most impressive player in this tournament was herO, considering he's just a year out of the military and is now the best protoss who has a chance to win the GSL.
very illegal and very uncool
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 03 2022 22:05 GMT
#1174
Also Dark is slowly creeping up to those 10 major championships he said he wanted to get in his career.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4407 Posts
July 03 2022 22:21 GMT
#1175
I think DRG and Ragnarok have good chances in GSL if Dark/Maru end up on the same side of the bracket and Dark wins. Either of them are very much capable of beating the non Maru Terrans or Zoun/Creator and anything can happen in ZvZ.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
July 03 2022 22:24 GMT
#1176
I think Dark came much better prepared to the finals than Maru did. Will be very interesting to see what happens in GSL when both have equal preparation time (and Maru won't have just revealed a lot about his style by playing Reynor)
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
314 Posts
July 03 2022 22:30 GMT
#1177
Balance issues aside, dark reynor serral and rogue are just special players
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
153 Posts
July 03 2022 22:43 GMT
#1178
On July 04 2022 06:55 argonautdice wrote:
Tbh the most impressive player in this tournament was herO, considering he's just a year out of the military and is now the best protoss who has a chance to win the GSL.



after stats retired and zest is gone, I'm glad hero is back and creator looks like hes finally playing to his potential or at least partially. we need more Protoss.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
July 04 2022 03:29 GMT
#1179
On July 04 2022 07:21 JJH777 wrote:
I think DRG and Ragnarok have good chances in GSL if Dark/Maru end up on the same side of the bracket and Dark wins. Either of them are very much capable of beating the non Maru Terrans or Zoun/Creator and anything can happen in ZvZ.

Hard to see Maru and Dark on the same bracket with their today performance though, likely that they will be 1st of their group and will play the 2nd/3rd players, possibly herO and Ragnarok at the moment.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
July 04 2022 08:44 GMT
#1180
Congratulations Dark!
It seems like Korea is still hard dominating when it is offline and Serral isn't there to eliminate top koreans: Reynor was the biggest hope but he had to face Maru particularly early. Similarly, HeroMarine could have eliminated Creator or herO but instead he had to beat Maru which just doesn't happen in TvT.
I am happy with Maru's performance, still not quite sure how I feel about the new map pool overall
WriterMaru
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