EPTDreamHack Masters: Valencia 2022 - Main Event - Page 59
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Creager
Germany1917 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16003 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:31 [PkF] Wire wrote: Reynor offrace (joke aside herO is the more likely to break the curse imo, he has the unashamed attitude needed, excellent skills and no weak mu in the current meta. I put him at 3) for the odds but it's like 35% for Maru / Dark and 30% for herO, very close if you ask me) so all other players combined have a 0% chance to win? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24231 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:35 Charoisaur wrote: so all other players combined have a 0% chance to win? honestly imo yeah, negligible. Especially with Creator and Cure already in dire straits in their group. (feel free to save and show it to me when Zoun lifts the trophy) | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
But it's hard to imagine anyone beating Dark or Maru in a bo7 | ||
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ZeroByte13
774 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:I put him at 3) for the odds but it's like 35% for Maru / Dark and 30% for herO, very close if you ask me) I'd say 50% for Dark, 25% for Maru, 15% for herO and 10% for everyone else combined. Bunny, DRG, Zoun and maybe even Cure & Creator if they manage to get top-3 in ther group - they all have about 1-2% chance in my book. Remember GSL S3 in 2021 - who could have predicted Zest-Cure finals before Ro8 or even Ro4? | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:38 Fango wrote: Creator also has a shot at GSL with a good bracket. As did Zest before retirement. But it's hard to imagine anyone beating Dark or Maru in a bo7 The problem for Creator is that he's almost out already because he tilted so hard in his first 2 matches. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24231 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:38 Fango wrote: Creator also has a shot at GSL with a good bracket. As did Zest before retirement I don't see how Creator qualifies. Unless he wins vs Dark ? But I don't see that happening. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16003 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:36 [PkF] Wire wrote: honestly imo yeah, negligible. Especially with Creator and Cure already in dire straits in their group. (feel free to save and show it to me when Zoun lifts the trophy) Hmm I guess you're right (though I'd say everyone else has maybe 5% chance combined). Didn't realize how few top tier players are left | ||
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Elentos
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TossHeroes
281 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:23 JJH777 wrote: I can't imagine herO winning GSL when I look at the last 5 years of Protoss results. The Protoss that breaks this P losing streak in 6 figure events will be the true goat. Zest had the best chance after he stopped rogue streak However Zest follow up with an epic choke job against cure in the finals | ||
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ZeroByte13
774 Posts
Rogue, Dark, Trap and Maru all were much bigger favourites. So everything can happen even if it's not likely. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24231 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:44 ZeroByte13 wrote: Again, who could have predicted last years Zest-Cure finals before Ro8 or even Ro4? Rogue, Dark, Trap and Maru all were much bigger favourites. So everything can happen even if it's not likely. It's a good argument. Of course we can have surprises and I'm all for another surprise winner, Cure's victory was very heartwarming I felt. But imo it's hard not to consider Maru / herO / Dark the huge favorites so that's my stance (Zest-Cure in 2021 S3 relied a lot on the bracket though, you had Rogue - Dark and Trap - Maru in the ro8 while dark horses played together (Zest - Dream and Cure - Parting). Zest still had to beat Rogue 4-3 and that was a huge performance, but if he had played like Rogue in ro8 and then Dark he probably never gets to the finals. But I agree we can get strange things like that this season, let's say Ragnarok wins his ZvZ and ends first, then Dark can potentially meet herO before the semis for instance) | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
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Elentos
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JJH777
United States4414 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
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angry_maia
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allmotor1
153 Posts
On July 04 2022 06:55 argonautdice wrote: Tbh the most impressive player in this tournament was herO, considering he's just a year out of the military and is now the best protoss who has a chance to win the GSL. after stats retired and zest is gone, I'm glad hero is back and creator looks like hes finally playing to his potential or at least partially. we need more Protoss. | ||
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tigera6
3433 Posts
On July 04 2022 07:21 JJH777 wrote: I think DRG and Ragnarok have good chances in GSL if Dark/Maru end up on the same side of the bracket and Dark wins. Either of them are very much capable of beating the non Maru Terrans or Zoun/Creator and anything can happen in ZvZ. Hard to see Maru and Dark on the same bracket with their today performance though, likely that they will be 1st of their group and will play the 2nd/3rd players, possibly herO and Ragnarok at the moment. | ||
Poopi
France12904 Posts
It seems like Korea is still hard dominating when it is offline and Serral isn't there to eliminate top koreans: Reynor was the biggest hope but he had to face Maru particularly early. Similarly, HeroMarine could have eliminated Creator or herO but instead he had to beat Maru which just doesn't happen in TvT. I am happy with Maru's performance, still not quite sure how I feel about the new map pool overall | ||
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