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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
November 14 2021 19:29 GMT
#701
On November 15 2021 04:20 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 03:52 swarminfestor wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:27 swarminfestor wrote:
Ironically, the matches that Rogue lost in the final against Maru delivered the best. Both ROG and Season Finals showed high quality from them.


I mean, game 4 was entertaining, but it was kind of a game of throws, don't know that I'd call it "showing high quality".


I know that you has bias on certain player not making to the final, but Game 4 definitely was not game of throw. Burrowed banes that kill plenty of marines, double spores placement on the base to prevent three medical drops, hold position lurkers that could be game changers were all the things Rogue did in the game but apparently not enough to hurt Maru economy. Eventually, Maru had Rogue in that game.


"Eventually" is at minute 8. Maru had Rogue in that game at minute 8, then he allowed a runby of ling/bane to run past his lowered Depot and kill 40 SCVs. I don't know how you can call anything but a throw. Then Rogue overextended repeatedly, losing his entire population of Lurkers multiple times on bad attacks, including the one where he basically donated them for free behind Maru's inside bottom base.

Don't know what "bias" you like to imagine justifies your argument, but those are things that straight up happened in this game.

There were no throws in that game though? They multitasked / forced errors, that’s what happens in hectic games
WriterMaru
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 14 2021 19:36 GMT
#702
On November 15 2021 04:02 Nakajin wrote:
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On November 15 2021 03:34 Waxangel wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:31 swarminfestor wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:23 geokilla wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:21 swarminfestor wrote:
Is there any Season Final tourney left, Last Chance for example?

TSL8, NeXT Season 2, and Last Chance. Korea has Super Tournament.


I thought tl net put Season Finals and Last Chance together, maybe because it was produced by ESL?

I think last chance has a different format this year, so that it's actually a tournament for players who have not yet qualified.


ohhh, that's neat!

indeed didn't know that, great news if that's the case, rises the stakes nicely
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 14 2021 19:40 GMT
#703
On November 15 2021 04:29 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 04:20 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:52 swarminfestor wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:27 swarminfestor wrote:
Ironically, the matches that Rogue lost in the final against Maru delivered the best. Both ROG and Season Finals showed high quality from them.


I mean, game 4 was entertaining, but it was kind of a game of throws, don't know that I'd call it "showing high quality".


I know that you has bias on certain player not making to the final, but Game 4 definitely was not game of throw. Burrowed banes that kill plenty of marines, double spores placement on the base to prevent three medical drops, hold position lurkers that could be game changers were all the things Rogue did in the game but apparently not enough to hurt Maru economy. Eventually, Maru had Rogue in that game.


"Eventually" is at minute 8. Maru had Rogue in that game at minute 8, then he allowed a runby of ling/bane to run past his lowered Depot and kill 40 SCVs. I don't know how you can call anything but a throw. Then Rogue overextended repeatedly, losing his entire population of Lurkers multiple times on bad attacks, including the one where he basically donated them for free behind Maru's inside bottom base.

Don't know what "bias" you like to imagine justifies your argument, but those are things that straight up happened in this game.

There were no throws in that game though? They multitasked / forced errors, that’s what happens in hectic games


What forced the error?
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
November 14 2021 22:41 GMT
#704
Grats and well done to Maru! Also holy cow, Scarlett impressed here. Took down 3 well-decorated Koreans before bringing Rogue to match point.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
November 14 2021 23:36 GMT
#705
Even if there were throws, let's not forget Maru and Rogue were playing in the middle of the night. But I agree, there were no throws.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33597 Posts
November 15 2021 01:08 GMT
#706
Reminds me a bit of the ASUS ROG run

ASUS ROG Fall: Serral-HeroMarine-Rogue
DHM Winter: Dark-Clem-Rogue

Both elite zerg sandwiches with a creamy Terran center
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parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
November 15 2021 02:00 GMT
#707
On November 15 2021 04:20 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 03:52 swarminfestor wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:27 swarminfestor wrote:
Ironically, the matches that Rogue lost in the final against Maru delivered the best. Both ROG and Season Finals showed high quality from them.


I mean, game 4 was entertaining, but it was kind of a game of throws, don't know that I'd call it "showing high quality".


I know that you has bias on certain player not making to the final, but Game 4 definitely was not game of throw. Burrowed banes that kill plenty of marines, double spores placement on the base to prevent three medical drops, hold position lurkers that could be game changers were all the things Rogue did in the game but apparently not enough to hurt Maru economy. Eventually, Maru had Rogue in that game.


"Eventually" is at minute 8. Maru had Rogue in that game at minute 8, then he allowed a runby of ling/bane to run past his lowered Depot and kill 40 SCVs. I don't know how you can call anything but a throw. Then Rogue overextended repeatedly, losing his entire population of Lurkers multiple times on bad attacks, including the one where he basically donated them for free behind Maru's inside bottom base.

Don't know what "bias" you like to imagine justifies your argument, but those are things that straight up happened in this game.


The lurker fight was not a throw, if it was a lesser Terran, Rogue would have won right there. It was just Maru being good. Base on your thinking we can basically say every loss is a throw.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 15 2021 02:23 GMT
#708
On November 15 2021 11:00 parksonsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2021 04:20 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:52 swarminfestor wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 15 2021 03:27 swarminfestor wrote:
Ironically, the matches that Rogue lost in the final against Maru delivered the best. Both ROG and Season Finals showed high quality from them.


I mean, game 4 was entertaining, but it was kind of a game of throws, don't know that I'd call it "showing high quality".


I know that you has bias on certain player not making to the final, but Game 4 definitely was not game of throw. Burrowed banes that kill plenty of marines, double spores placement on the base to prevent three medical drops, hold position lurkers that could be game changers were all the things Rogue did in the game but apparently not enough to hurt Maru economy. Eventually, Maru had Rogue in that game.


"Eventually" is at minute 8. Maru had Rogue in that game at minute 8, then he allowed a runby of ling/bane to run past his lowered Depot and kill 40 SCVs. I don't know how you can call anything but a throw. Then Rogue overextended repeatedly, losing his entire population of Lurkers multiple times on bad attacks, including the one where he basically donated them for free behind Maru's inside bottom base.

Don't know what "bias" you like to imagine justifies your argument, but those are things that straight up happened in this game.


The lurker fight was not a throw, if it was a lesser Terran, Rogue would have won right there. It was just Maru being good. Base on your thinking we can basically say every loss is a throw.

Yeah those were normal mistakes that happen in every game. Not throws at all
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
November 20 2021 04:59 GMT
#709
Just Maru being Maru by the looks of things. Not Rogue's best tournament, but he's at his best offline we all already knew that.
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