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On February 28 2021 01:45 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On February 28 2021 01:42 Fango wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 geokilla wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 Fango wrote:
My personal power rank for who's gonna win this tournament went Serral > Dark > Rogue > Reynor lol. If no zergs make the final that would be something Well Protoss is... wait Did you think this was some kind of Super Tournament? There is something about Super Tournaments that seem to lend themselves to Protoss domination, it's been that way for a while with a few exceptions here and there. Super tournaments are weirdly great for protoss yeah. Although I think some of that might just be that Serral doesn't play in Super Tournaments, and Rogue/TY/Maru don't tend to care about them (except the one time Rogue had to win to make blizzcon).
Maru won a Super Tournament last year over Dark (one of the best finals I've seen in a while too).
that actually seemed like the last tournament he played in 2020 where he didnt look like his injury was bothering him. Dark too also was visibly bothered by injuries after that tournament.
Kind of seems like it was that series specifically that wore their bodies out.
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Gotta appreciate that for these recaps that the production team said to themselves "Ok the analysts will want to circle things but how can we make something simple like circles incredibly painful to look at"
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On February 28 2021 01:44 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:40 Poopi wrote:On February 28 2021 01:35 Darkhorse wrote:
Cross server or not I hope Reynor vs Maru delivers I don't think it will... Reynor plays an horrendous ZvT style compared to Serral and cross server TvZ doesn't really deliver historically. But I still hope Maru can manage to win and qualify for the finals, he has a decent shot Wtf is this affirmation ? Have you seen Byun vs serral and maru vs reynor at the king battle, these games are among the most beautiful zvt I've ever seen. Some previous maru vs reynor were great too.
i don't really recall Maru vs Reynor at king battle, but I remember a lot of Serral games against KR terrans where he took A LOT of mines shot he wouldn't otherwise. You could actually see when he played vs Clem that even during intense multitask sessions he still microe'd well vs the mines. Pretty sure it was lag; and of course the terrans didn't micro as well as with low ping.
ByuN vs Serral was good indeed but ByuN was playing a relatively campy style so the lag didn't matter as much I guess.
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On February 28 2021 01:45 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 28 2021 01:43 Noocta wrote:
Imagine a world where Maru gets the shoulder treatement sooner and wins like 8 GSLs in a row or something. I am a huge maru fan, but let's give other players some credit as well  remember, Mvp won GSL with a broken neck 
Mvp was literally dead.
I do think Maru deserves some credit for completely changing his playstyle to make the GSL final with a broken shoulder last year.
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On February 28 2021 01:46 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:45 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 01:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 28 2021 01:43 Noocta wrote:
Imagine a world where Maru gets the shoulder treatement sooner and wins like 8 GSLs in a row or something. I am a huge maru fan, but let's give other players some credit as well remember, Mvp won GSL with a broken neck Literally in a wheelchair
Only had the use of one of his hands
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On February 28 2021 01:42 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:40 geokilla wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 Fango wrote:
My personal power rank for who's gonna win this tournament went Serral > Dark > Rogue > Reynor lol. If no zergs make the final that would be something Well Protoss is... wait Did you think this was some kind of Super Tournament?
well PvP ro4 on the upcoming side of the bracket, while not being a given, is at least very plausible
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On February 28 2021 01:44 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On February 28 2021 01:42 Fango wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 geokilla wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 Fango wrote:
My personal power rank for who's gonna win this tournament went Serral > Dark > Rogue > Reynor lol. If no zergs make the final that would be something Well Protoss is... wait Did you think this was some kind of Super Tournament? There is something about Super Tournaments that seem to lend themselves to Protoss domination, it's been that way for a while with a few exceptions here and there. Its how Terran and Zergs keep Protoss players from rioting.
Oh, I don't think it's necessary to invent conspiracies to explain...
... WAIT, IS THAT A TRIANGLE ON TERRAN'S LOGO?
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On February 28 2021 01:48 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:46 Nakajin wrote:On February 28 2021 01:45 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 01:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 28 2021 01:43 Noocta wrote:
Imagine a world where Maru gets the shoulder treatement sooner and wins like 8 GSLs in a row or something. I am a huge maru fan, but let's give other players some credit as well remember, Mvp won GSL with a broken neck Literally in a wheelchair Only had the use of one of his hands
Because the other one was busy
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On February 28 2021 01:47 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:45 Fango wrote:On February 28 2021 01:43 Vindicare605 wrote:On February 28 2021 01:42 Fango wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 geokilla wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 Fango wrote:
My personal power rank for who's gonna win this tournament went Serral > Dark > Rogue > Reynor lol. If no zergs make the final that would be something Well Protoss is... wait Did you think this was some kind of Super Tournament? There is something about Super Tournaments that seem to lend themselves to Protoss domination, it's been that way for a while with a few exceptions here and there. Super tournaments are weirdly great for protoss yeah. Although I think some of that might just be that Serral doesn't play in Super Tournaments, and Rogue/TY/Maru don't tend to care about them (except the one time Rogue had to win to make blizzcon). Maru won a Super Tournament last year over Dark (one of the best finals I've seen in a while too). that actually seemed like the last tournament he played in 2020 where he didnt look like his injury was bothering him. Dark too also was visibly bothered by injuries after that tournament. Kind of seems like it was that series specifically that wore their bodies out.
That Super Tournament was played more like a Code S though. They had nothing else to practice or save themselves for in that one. It's not like when Rogue/Maru/TY are already qualified for the Global Finals and consistently bomb out of them despite incredible Code S performances.
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Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions.
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On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions.
I was impressed by game one if only because I expected Maru to be overaggressive initially and was pleasantly surprised. And I thought he was all over the place throughout all of G1.
Games 2 and 3 though yeah he didn't exactly have to do anything special to win after his early leads
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On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions.
Maru did seem to catch Rogue more off guard early than he did "outplay" him throughout. I think Reynor will be a much tougher opponent
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On February 28 2021 01:51 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions. I was impressed by game one if only because I expected Maru to be overaggressive initially and was pleasantly surprised. And I thought he was all over the place throughout all of G1. Games 2 and 3 though yeah he didn't exactly have to do anything special to win after his early leads
g1 was really really good imo. Agree for g2/g3
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On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions.
Game 2 Maru got caught as out of position as humanly possible and didn't die. Sure, that just means he was that much ahead at the time, but I am extremely salty about it. Anyway, unimpressed is an understatement .
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On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions.
Rushing armory + drilling claws and spam dropping mines is standard? Did I just miss the best meta in sc2 history?
The hellion and marine drops sure though
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On February 28 2021 01:47 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:44 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 01:40 Poopi wrote:On February 28 2021 01:35 Darkhorse wrote:
Cross server or not I hope Reynor vs Maru delivers I don't think it will... Reynor plays an horrendous ZvT style compared to Serral and cross server TvZ doesn't really deliver historically. But I still hope Maru can manage to win and qualify for the finals, he has a decent shot Wtf is this affirmation ? Have you seen Byun vs serral and maru vs reynor at the king battle, these games are among the most beautiful zvt I've ever seen. Some previous maru vs reynor were great too. i don't really recall Maru vs Reynor at king battle, but I remember a lot of Serral games against KR terrans where he took A LOT of mines shot he wouldn't otherwise. You could actually see when he played vs Clem that even during intense multitask sessions he still microe'd well vs the mines. Pretty sure it was lag; and of course the terrans didn't micro as well as with low ping. ByuN vs Serral was good indeed but ByuN was playing a relatively campy style so the lag didn't matter as much I guess.
Zergs are taking mire mine shots, terrans are suffering more of baneling sure but the game are as exciting imo and even long game are not necesseraly decided by ping/control.
Serral lost because of strategical decision, (not going for bl, producing mutas against mass ghost...) which is good.
I am really excited for this anyway, at least, it can't be more underwhelming that the previous serie !
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On February 28 2021 01:53 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions. Rushing armory + drilling claws and spam dropping mines is standard? Did I just miss the best meta in sc2 history? The hellion and marine drops sure though
Only other Terran I've seen successfully pull that style off in TvZ is TY. It's definitely not standard.
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On February 28 2021 01:53 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions. Rushing armory + drilling claws and spam dropping mines is standard? Did I just miss the best meta in sc2 history? The hellion and marine drops sure though
This sort of builds have been used a lot by cure against reynor and serral at the king battle.
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On February 28 2021 01:53 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions. Rushing armory + drilling claws and spam dropping mines is standard? Did I just miss the best meta in sc2 history? The hellion and marine drops sure though
It's standard anytime a Terran plays against DRG at the very least.
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On February 28 2021 01:55 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 01:53 Fango wrote:On February 28 2021 01:50 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one unimpressed by maru's play in that series? It was mostly rogue taking game losing damages from rather standard aggressions. Rushing armory + drilling claws and spam dropping mines is standard? Did I just miss the best meta in sc2 history? The hellion and marine drops sure though This sort of builds have been used a lot by cure against reynor and serral at the king battle.
Good stuff, fantastic even.
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