[IEM 2021] Katowice World Championship - RO36 Day 2

On February 21 2021 23:34 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so both of those GGs were a little early for uthermal given his tournament life was on the line. He was behind both times but...

On February 22 2021 00:05 uThermal wrote:


I genuinely have no idea how anyone could think I GGed early in game 2 https://imgur.com/a/3VOkOUd

On February 21 2021 23:48 Elentos wrote:
Please just anything but sOs to group A

On February 22 2021 00:14 sneakyfox wrote:


Do we already know which winners go where? There is no draw?

On February 22 2021 00:19 Darkhorse wrote:

I'm curious as to why sOs to group A would be particularly bad?

On February 22 2021 00:15 Elentos wrote:

I dunno but it would have fit the disaster that is group A so I'm pre-emptively paranoid.

On February 22 2021 00:25 Darkhorse wrote:

Fair enough I guess. After seeing him lose to Dream just now though I don't see him beating TY or Maru unless they're well off

On February 22 2021 00:04 Elentos wrote:
sOs is truly washed up

On February 22 2021 00:04 Elentos wrote:
sOs is truly washed up

On February 22 2021 00:40 Fango wrote:

Obligatory "he's been washed up for all of LotV"

On February 22 2021 00:43 Elentos wrote:

I don't bother with that because the "For big money you always have to expect the $0$" narrative has already been false twice as long as it was true.

On February 22 2021 00:44 Fango wrote:

He sold that narrative to Rogue for an undisclosed sum

On February 22 2021 00:43 Elentos wrote:

I don't bother with that because the "For big money you always have to expect the $0$" narrative has already been false twice as long as it was true.

On February 22 2021 00:48 Morbidius wrote:
I know they're both washed up but sOs vs Byun should be really fun.

On February 22 2021 00:48 Morbidius wrote:
I know they're both washed up but sOs vs Byun should be really fun.

On February 22 2021 00:48 Waxangel wrote:


Fact: RO4 payout for BlizzCon 2018 was higher than any Code S that year

On February 22 2021 00:49 TheLordofAwesome wrote:

That matchup can't happen today though??

On February 22 2021 00:50 Andi_Goldberger wrote:

its happening right after this?

On February 22 2021 00:50 Elentos wrote:

Fact: The same player won every Code S that year so he still got more money

On February 22 2021 00:51 TheLordofAwesome wrote:

Liquipedia was lying to me an hour ago.

On February 22 2021 00:48 Waxangel wrote:


Fact: RO4 payout for BlizzCon 2018 was higher than any Code S that year

On February 22 2021 00:52 Elentos wrote:

An hour ago sOs vs Dream wasn't done yet so that mighta had something to do with it

On February 22 2021 00:55 Fango wrote:

It was reminiscent of his clutch big stage moments that's for sure.

But it was more reminiscent of him being a villain and ruining the Maru narrative like he did to Jaedong in 2013, and MKP in 2014.

On February 22 2021 00:58 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I feel like Byun vs DRG was a way higher lvl series in every way than Bunny vs Ragnarok. Yet that was losers round 1 and this is upper bracket finals.

On February 22 2021 01:01 Elentos wrote:

So as it turns out if you don't lose to Has you can get to the winner bracket finals.

On February 22 2021 01:07 sneakyfox wrote:


They should give the trophy for that tbh

On February 22 2021 01:10 Elentos wrote:

New tournament format where everyone plays 10 games against Has and that's the only thing that determines the winner.

On February 22 2021 01:10 Elentos wrote:

New tournament format where everyone plays 10 games against Has and that's the only thing that determines the winner.

On February 22 2021 01:15 TheLordofAwesome wrote:

Wasn't that 2018 WCS Valencia ?

On February 22 2021 01:15 TheLordofAwesome wrote:

Wasn't that 2018 WCS Valencia ?

On February 22 2021 01:23 Devangel wrote:


The finals was on the day of my wedding, I was checking the liquipedia page all the time hoping for Has to take it all. Would have been a great wedding gift

On February 22 2021 01:26 TheLordofAwesome wrote:

Funnily enough, the one game of the finals that Serral lost was his sole attempt to cheese Has.

On February 22 2021 01:31 Darkhorse wrote:
LR thread has become the Has fan club

I don't mind

On February 22 2021 01:33 Darkhorse wrote:

I will say that the one game that Has lost against DRG was when he got cheesed haha

On February 22 2021 01:38 Elentos wrote:
So Ragnarok vs Armani eh? Can we reach 30 minutes of game time?

On February 22 2021 01:41 Darkhorse wrote:

Truthfully not sure I would even wanna see a hive vs hive ZvZ even if that was on the cards with these two

On February 22 2021 01:51 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
If 2 vipers try to abduct each other at the same time, what happens?

On February 22 2021 01:55 Elentos wrote:

They switch places

On February 22 2021 01:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:

Amazing.

On February 22 2021 01:52 Elentos wrote:
I miss when IEM would just replay WE WON'T BACK DOWN FROM A FIGHT over and over again in the breaks instead of generic epic instrumental music

On February 22 2021 02:01 Waxangel wrote:


Is there no original song this year because it's online? I haven't been watching the CSGO broadcast

On February 22 2021 02:08 Darkhorse wrote:
The problem for sOs is that if you sOs too much every terran is just gonna go ahead and get a raven

On February 22 2021 02:15 Elentos wrote:
sOs loves sending his zealots to their death in the Terran's natural

On February 22 2021 02:19 Waxangel wrote:


I think Zest and Stats have shown us being efficient with zealots isn't important; they just need to provide a meaningful distraction for whatever big brain macro play you are making

On February 22 2021 02:21 Fango wrote:
Am I out of date or is sacrificing 6 DTs to kill the terrans fourth not a really great trade?

On February 22 2021 02:21 Fango wrote:
Am I out of date or is sacrificing 6 DTs to kill the terrans fourth not a really great trade?

On February 22 2021 02:25 Darkhorse wrote:

It isn't amazing if the Terran is up to date on building more CCs (Byun wasn't) its 550/150 for terran and 750/750 for protoss. But in this instance i don't hate it for sOs since Byun was in such rough shape economically it was hard for him to get a fourth back up

On February 22 2021 02:25 Darkhorse wrote:

It isn't amazing if the Terran is up to date on building more CCs (Byun wasn't) its 550/150 for terran and 750/750 for protoss. But in this instance i don't hate it for sOs since Byun was in such rough shape economically it was hard for him to get a fourth back up

On February 22 2021 02:28 TheLordofAwesome wrote:


Maru and TY seem to build way more CCs as they transition to lategame than Byun does.

I feel like sos could have won super easily if he just made a few different decisions.

On February 22 2021 02:30 Charoisaur wrote:

a few different decisions like getting up a proper economy and upgrading his units?

On February 22 2021 02:32 Darkhorse wrote:

It is quite funny that sOs had two paths to victory either attacking with his huge colossus count or getting up a monster eco while Byun was so far on the back foot and he decided to do neither

On February 22 2021 02:33 Charoisaur wrote:

True I'm pretty sure he would've won if he attacked with 5 Collossus vs 0 Vikings.
Can be tricky to attack vs a counter-attacking terran though

On February 22 2021 02:35 Charoisaur wrote:
why can I see sOs' room in the background btw?
I thought they're playing in the stars

On February 22 2021 02:35 Charoisaur wrote:
why can I see sOs' room in the background btw?
I thought they're playing in the stars

On February 22 2021 02:36 Elentos wrote:

sOs is an alien and his house was already in space to begin with

On February 22 2021 02:40 Darkhorse wrote:
So what absolute nonsense do we think sOs is gonna go for in game 3

On February 22 2021 02:41 Waxangel wrote:


prolly macro again

On February 22 2021 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
He's just gonna try to kill him with blink like he did to Dream in game one

On February 22 2021 02:57 Charoisaur wrote:
this time it worked out with the low Probe count. Still think he would've won way easier if he just played normal

On February 22 2021 03:16 Amumoman wrote:
Protoss armies are so underwhelming against well controlled Terran armies

On February 22 2021 03:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
do we already know who ends up in which group ? Or is it a random draw at the end of the day ?

On February 22 2021 03:28 Die4Ever wrote:

yea same puppy

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Players are limited to two pauses per map. A pause can last no longer than five minutes. The reason for the pause has to be communicated to the referee in-game (combined in total 10mins). Admins have the power to issue pauses on their own at their own discretion. Players are not allowed to leave their PCs during the pauses (we can check this).

On February 22 2021 04:03 xelnaga_empire wrote:
When Rotti asked which race is the strongest now, here is the answer from all the pros:

clips.twitch.tv

It seems like all the pros came to a consensus pretty quick.

On February 22 2021 04:12 Nakajin wrote:


So there doesn't seem to be any particular reason needed to ask for a pause? I would guess it would come under the general discretionary power of the admins, but as far as this is in concern I don't see any reason you couldn't pause after let's say realizing you are getting proxy-void ray to review your notes and what not.

On February 22 2021 04:21 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
lol this is amazing

On February 22 2021 04:17 Elentos wrote:
To be in contention for 4th or 5th best Korean Zerg feels like such a backhanded compliment since after soO retired there's only 6 Korean Zerg progamers.

On February 22 2021 04:23 sneakyfox wrote:


I hadn't even realised that. That is so depressing.

On February 22 2021 04:26 Elentos wrote:

Leenock's military service is close to done, if that's any consolation.

On February 22 2021 04:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


Heh.

But jokes aside TY does sound like he has a solid reasoning if auxiliary police is really that much more gamer-friendly than regular military service.