On December 09 2020 20:23 BerserkSword wrote: cant believe inno just did fast ghost + scv pull against shield of aiur's phoenix colossus
Tbf it could have worked if he didn't go through the smallest choke with scvs blocked behind his bio.
it couldve worked if it wasnt against the greatest defensive protoss of LotV and innovation wasnt past his prime
i dont get it.
Even under that circumstances it could have worked imo, but then inno did what he did and looked like a diamond player :D
i mean stats made dream look like a diamond player. Stats is a monster
strategy wise i dont understand what inno was doing.
the fundamental counter to phoenix colossus is macro'ing up, and inno ignored it and all-in'ed with ghosts vs the shield of aiur
doesn't make sense imo but maybe someone can provide more insight
Inno probably doesn't feel too great about his macro and well scv pull vs phoenix colossus isn't too bad, but that was absolutely horrible execution and not so much on Stats being great (which he is) imo.
dude scv pull WITH FAST GHOST is garbo vs phoenix colossus.....especially after battery overcharge
Also i disagree, vs Stats style with faster archons the ghosts are pretty decent (also help vs sentries forcefileding you off), it was basically all about innos omegalul move of going up the ramp like this.
On December 09 2020 20:23 BerserkSword wrote: cant believe inno just did fast ghost + scv pull against shield of aiur's phoenix colossus
Tbf it could have worked if he didn't go through the smallest choke with scvs blocked behind his bio.
it couldve worked if it wasnt against the greatest defensive protoss of LotV and innovation wasnt past his prime
i dont get it.
Even under that circumstances it could have worked imo, but then inno did what he did and looked like a diamond player :D
i mean stats made dream look like a diamond player. Stats is a monster
strategy wise i dont understand what inno was doing.
the fundamental counter to phoenix colossus is macro'ing up, and inno ignored it and all-in'ed with ghosts vs the shield of aiur
doesn't make sense imo but maybe someone can provide more insight
Inno probably doesn't feel too great about his macro and well scv pull vs phoenix colossus isn't too bad, but that was absolutely horrible execution and not so much on Stats being great (which he is) imo.
dude scv pull WITH FAST GHOST is garbo vs phoenix colossus.....especially after battery overcharge
Also i disagree, vs Stats style with faster archons the ghosts are pretty decent (also help vs sentries forcefileding you off), it was basically all about innos omegalul move of going up the ramp like this.
it had nothign to do with moving up a ramp
stats would beat inno in that fight in any scenario
On December 09 2020 20:23 BerserkSword wrote: cant believe inno just did fast ghost + scv pull against shield of aiur's phoenix colossus
Tbf it could have worked if he didn't go through the smallest choke with scvs blocked behind his bio.
it couldve worked if it wasnt against the greatest defensive protoss of LotV and innovation wasnt past his prime
i dont get it.
Even under that circumstances it could have worked imo, but then inno did what he did and looked like a diamond player :D
i mean stats made dream look like a diamond player. Stats is a monster
strategy wise i dont understand what inno was doing.
the fundamental counter to phoenix colossus is macro'ing up, and inno ignored it and all-in'ed with ghosts vs the shield of aiur
doesn't make sense imo but maybe someone can provide more insight
Inno probably doesn't feel too great about his macro and well scv pull vs phoenix colossus isn't too bad, but that was absolutely horrible execution and not so much on Stats being great (which he is) imo.
dude scv pull WITH FAST GHOST is garbo vs phoenix colossus.....especially after battery overcharge
Also i disagree, vs Stats style with faster archons the ghosts are pretty decent (also help vs sentries forcefileding you off), it was basically all about innos omegalul move of going up the ramp like this.
it had nothign to do with moving up a ramp
stats would beat inno in that fight in any scenario
Let's agree to disagree then :D Also why did inno scv pull when he can just win in macro (smth terrans always say is impossible if you're not maru )
On December 09 2020 20:23 BerserkSword wrote: cant believe inno just did fast ghost + scv pull against shield of aiur's phoenix colossus
Tbf it could have worked if he didn't go through the smallest choke with scvs blocked behind his bio.
it couldve worked if it wasnt against the greatest defensive protoss of LotV and innovation wasnt past his prime
i dont get it.
Even under that circumstances it could have worked imo, but then inno did what he did and looked like a diamond player :D
i mean stats made dream look like a diamond player. Stats is a monster
strategy wise i dont understand what inno was doing.
the fundamental counter to phoenix colossus is macro'ing up, and inno ignored it and all-in'ed with ghosts vs the shield of aiur
doesn't make sense imo but maybe someone can provide more insight
Inno probably doesn't feel too great about his macro and well scv pull vs phoenix colossus isn't too bad, but that was absolutely horrible execution and not so much on Stats being great (which he is) imo.
dude scv pull WITH FAST GHOST is garbo vs phoenix colossus.....especially after battery overcharge
Also i disagree, vs Stats style with faster archons the ghosts are pretty decent (also help vs sentries forcefileding you off), it was basically all about innos omegalul move of going up the ramp like this.
it had nothign to do with moving up a ramp
stats would beat inno in that fight in any scenario
Let's agree to disagree then :D Also why did inno scv pull when he can just win in macro (smth terrans always say is impossible if you're not maru )
inno literally just beat stats in a macro game WHEN STATS WENT PHOENIX COLOSSUS
On December 09 2020 20:24 darklycid wrote: [quote] Tbf it could have worked if he didn't go through the smallest choke with scvs blocked behind his bio.
it couldve worked if it wasnt against the greatest defensive protoss of LotV and innovation wasnt past his prime
i dont get it.
Even under that circumstances it could have worked imo, but then inno did what he did and looked like a diamond player :D
i mean stats made dream look like a diamond player. Stats is a monster
strategy wise i dont understand what inno was doing.
the fundamental counter to phoenix colossus is macro'ing up, and inno ignored it and all-in'ed with ghosts vs the shield of aiur
doesn't make sense imo but maybe someone can provide more insight
Inno probably doesn't feel too great about his macro and well scv pull vs phoenix colossus isn't too bad, but that was absolutely horrible execution and not so much on Stats being great (which he is) imo.
dude scv pull WITH FAST GHOST is garbo vs phoenix colossus.....especially after battery overcharge
Also i disagree, vs Stats style with faster archons the ghosts are pretty decent (also help vs sentries forcefileding you off), it was basically all about innos omegalul move of going up the ramp like this.
it had nothign to do with moving up a ramp
stats would beat inno in that fight in any scenario
Let's agree to disagree then :D Also why did inno scv pull when he can just win in macro (smth terrans always say is impossible if you're not maru )
inno literally just beat stats in a macro game WHEN STATS WENT PHOENIX COLOSSUS
the "play like maru" meme doesnt work here man
I think you misread what I meant, i asked why the hell inno went for the scv pull when he was able to win a macro game, and a bit of being trolly with the maru comment
On December 09 2020 20:25 BerserkSword wrote: [quote]
it couldve worked if it wasnt against the greatest defensive protoss of LotV and innovation wasnt past his prime
i dont get it.
Even under that circumstances it could have worked imo, but then inno did what he did and looked like a diamond player :D
i mean stats made dream look like a diamond player. Stats is a monster
strategy wise i dont understand what inno was doing.
the fundamental counter to phoenix colossus is macro'ing up, and inno ignored it and all-in'ed with ghosts vs the shield of aiur
doesn't make sense imo but maybe someone can provide more insight
Inno probably doesn't feel too great about his macro and well scv pull vs phoenix colossus isn't too bad, but that was absolutely horrible execution and not so much on Stats being great (which he is) imo.
dude scv pull WITH FAST GHOST is garbo vs phoenix colossus.....especially after battery overcharge
Also i disagree, vs Stats style with faster archons the ghosts are pretty decent (also help vs sentries forcefileding you off), it was basically all about innos omegalul move of going up the ramp like this.
it had nothign to do with moving up a ramp
stats would beat inno in that fight in any scenario
Let's agree to disagree then :D Also why did inno scv pull when he can just win in macro (smth terrans always say is impossible if you're not maru )
inno literally just beat stats in a macro game WHEN STATS WENT PHOENIX COLOSSUS
the "play like maru" meme doesnt work here man
I think you misread what I meant, i asked why the hell inno went for the scv pull when he was able to win a macro game, and a bit of being trolly with the maru comment
i dont know why inno chose the literally exact incorrect strategy (scv pull + ghost against colossus). that's what im questioning to begin with
it doesnt change the fac that he wen the exact wrong strat against phoenix colossus
Stats really didnt bring his A-game today. The Zest bank and aggro play was weird to see. But still enough to botch Inno. He is having a super tough time in TvP huh