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On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB.
Why?
They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice.
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On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice.
Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already.
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On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already.
what do you mean 'should have been out'?
Your logic is confusing
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On November 24 2020 06:15 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already. what do you mean 'should have been out'? Your logic is confusing
The format for the EU qualifier was supposed to be double elimination starting from the Ro16. This was for some reason changed while the qualifier was already going on (which is the hallmark of all great tournaments really). Elazer lost in the Ro32 so he would not originally have had a chance to play in the loser bracket.
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On November 24 2020 06:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 06:15 AzAlexZ wrote:On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already. what do you mean 'should have been out'? Your logic is confusing The format for the EU qualifier was supposed to be double elimination starting from the Ro16. This was for some reason changed while the qualifier was already going on (which is the hallmark of all great tournaments really). Elazer lost in the Ro32 so he would not originally have had a chance to play in the loser bracket.
Still not understanding the "knocked out by players that should have been out already"
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On November 24 2020 07:12 mikedupp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 06:51 Elentos wrote:On November 24 2020 06:15 AzAlexZ wrote:On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already. what do you mean 'should have been out'? Your logic is confusing The format for the EU qualifier was supposed to be double elimination starting from the Ro16. This was for some reason changed while the qualifier was already going on (which is the hallmark of all great tournaments really). Elazer lost in the Ro32 so he would not originally have had a chance to play in the loser bracket. Still not understanding the "knocked out by players that should have been out already"
I believe it goes like this:
In Korea and America the lower bracket started from Ro16. Meaning you get a second 'life' starting from Ro16 and onward. But for some reason they changed the European one to start from Ro32.
So if you had been defeated in Ro32 in America you would have been eliminated from the tournament. While for some reason in Europe people who got beat in the round of 32 went to the lower bracket instead and got another chance.
That gave people who made it too Ro16 and then got eliminated by someone from the Ro32 a bit salty because according to the tournament rules those people should not have had been in a lower bracket.
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On November 24 2020 07:55 Back2Back wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 07:12 mikedupp wrote:On November 24 2020 06:51 Elentos wrote:On November 24 2020 06:15 AzAlexZ wrote:On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already. what do you mean 'should have been out'? Your logic is confusing The format for the EU qualifier was supposed to be double elimination starting from the Ro16. This was for some reason changed while the qualifier was already going on (which is the hallmark of all great tournaments really). Elazer lost in the Ro32 so he would not originally have had a chance to play in the loser bracket. Still not understanding the "knocked out by players that should have been out already" I believe it goes like this: In Korea and America the lower bracket started from Ro16. Meaning you get a second 'life' starting from Ro16 and onward. But for some reason they changed the European one to start from Ro32. So if you had been defeated in Ro32 in America you would have been eliminated from the tournament. While for some reason in Europe people who got beat in the round of 32 went to the lower bracket instead and got another chance. That gave people who made it too Ro16 and then got eliminated by someone from the Ro32 a bit salty because according to the tournament rules those people should not have had been in a lower bracket.
But that didn t even affect the endresult. Harstem qualified in the end from the lower breaket in EU. Elazer qualified in NA
Still changing Rules mid tournament is dumb and shouldn t happen
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On November 24 2020 16:37 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 07:55 Back2Back wrote:On November 24 2020 07:12 mikedupp wrote:On November 24 2020 06:51 Elentos wrote:On November 24 2020 06:15 AzAlexZ wrote:On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already. what do you mean 'should have been out'? Your logic is confusing The format for the EU qualifier was supposed to be double elimination starting from the Ro16. This was for some reason changed while the qualifier was already going on (which is the hallmark of all great tournaments really). Elazer lost in the Ro32 so he would not originally have had a chance to play in the loser bracket. Still not understanding the "knocked out by players that should have been out already" I believe it goes like this: In Korea and America the lower bracket started from Ro16. Meaning you get a second 'life' starting from Ro16 and onward. But for some reason they changed the European one to start from Ro32. So if you had been defeated in Ro32 in America you would have been eliminated from the tournament. While for some reason in Europe people who got beat in the round of 32 went to the lower bracket instead and got another chance. That gave people who made it too Ro16 and then got eliminated by someone from the Ro32 a bit salty because according to the tournament rules those people should not have had been in a lower bracket. But that didn t even affect the endresult. Harstem qualified in the end from the lower breaket in EU. Elazer qualified in NA Still changing Rules mid tournament is dumb and shouldn t happen
Elazer didn't qualify.
No veritable damage was done but had Elazer qualified it would have essentially locked in the Top7 from EU.
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On November 24 2020 17:04 Elche wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 16:37 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 07:55 Back2Back wrote:On November 24 2020 07:12 mikedupp wrote:On November 24 2020 06:51 Elentos wrote:On November 24 2020 06:15 AzAlexZ wrote:On November 24 2020 05:56 Elche wrote:On November 24 2020 02:48 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 24 2020 02:11 Elche wrote:
Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB. Why? They all could have tried in the NA one as well. Actually many of them did. If they didn t it was their choice. Apparently they ran the LB from a round too early and three of the contenders for the last qualifying spots were knocked out by players that should have been out already. what do you mean 'should have been out'? Your logic is confusing The format for the EU qualifier was supposed to be double elimination starting from the Ro16. This was for some reason changed while the qualifier was already going on (which is the hallmark of all great tournaments really). Elazer lost in the Ro32 so he would not originally have had a chance to play in the loser bracket. Still not understanding the "knocked out by players that should have been out already" I believe it goes like this: In Korea and America the lower bracket started from Ro16. Meaning you get a second 'life' starting from Ro16 and onward. But for some reason they changed the European one to start from Ro32. So if you had been defeated in Ro32 in America you would have been eliminated from the tournament. While for some reason in Europe people who got beat in the round of 32 went to the lower bracket instead and got another chance. That gave people who made it too Ro16 and then got eliminated by someone from the Ro32 a bit salty because according to the tournament rules those people should not have had been in a lower bracket. But that didn t even affect the endresult. Harstem qualified in the end from the lower breaket in EU. Elazer qualified in NA Still changing Rules mid tournament is dumb and shouldn t happen Elazer didn't qualify. No veritable damage was done but had Elazer qualified it would have essentially locked in the Top7 from EU.
Had he qualified it would still be fair and square for everyone and no damage could have been done.
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On November 22 2020 00:26 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2020 23:38 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2020 21:04 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 21 2020 20:27 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2020 19:23 dbRic1203 wrote:Korean online qualifiers and walkovers in the lower breaket. Name a more iconic duo  Even now, where the Koreans stream into the EPT Open Cups, we see multiple Walkovers there  At least it seems to be less Bad as in previous events.. JAGW teamkill. While Cure & Trap aren't on the same team anymore, the curse doesn't care. True  But we had quite a few DPG and Afreeca Freecs Team kills this year as well  Also Time shows, that his strong showing at DH Winter was no fluke :D E.: As I wrote that, TIME got destroyed 0-2 by DRG RIP So with only Protoss qualifing in the EU qualifier and only Zergs in the Kr one, we will have Terrans only in the NA one tomorrow? I ll go with Byun, Cure and Heromarine then IMO Zest has a pretty good shot at qualifying via NA. I would say Zest, Cure and ... how's TIME's connection to NA? No no no, it hast be 3 Terrans
heh At least I was right about the Protoss part xD Not that I picked the right names
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Starts soon, can't wait. Really missing GSL rn
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Group B with Neeb, Stats, Reynor, and Byun lol
Would be a group of Death if Neeb and Byun are in top form
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Group A group of live. I realy like this for MaxPax, he had super tough groups in both his DH EU so far, lets hope he can do something with that
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On November 25 2020 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
Group A group of live. I realy like this for MaxPax, he had super tough groups in both his DH EU so far, lets hope he can do something with that
Having to start against Rogue is rough but I agree it's doable for him. It could have been way worse.
Otherwise which group you would consider the group of death ? Given the rankings I would say either group B or C, but this doesn't mean everything
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On November 25 2020 03:52 Philippe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
Group A group of live. I realy like this for MaxPax, he had super tough groups in both his DH EU so far, lets hope he can do something with that Having to start against Rogue is rough but I agree it's doable for him. It could have been way worse. Otherwise which group you would consider the group of death ? Given the rankings I would say either group B or C, but this doesn't mean everything
I d say Group D is group of death.
Well Max allways had to Play vs the no1 Seed of his group anyways. And if I had to choose between Reynor, Serral, Maru and Rogue for a online Bo3, I would take Rogue 10 out of 10 Times. Yes he can be realy. But he is the most volatile.
PartinG isn t in the best shape and MaxPax took Maps of him in the past allready. Special is by far the weakest invited player and MaxPax has even taken Bo3 of of him before. Don t get me wrong, the Protoss hope is still the underdog, but there is a chance.
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On November 25 2020 06:33 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 03:52 Philippe wrote:On November 25 2020 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
Group A group of live. I realy like this for MaxPax, he had super tough groups in both his DH EU so far, lets hope he can do something with that Having to start against Rogue is rough but I agree it's doable for him. It could have been way worse. Otherwise which group you would consider the group of death ? Given the rankings I would say either group B or C, but this doesn't mean everything I d say Group D is group of death. Well Max allways had to Play vs the no1 Seed of his group anyways. And if I had to choose between Reynor, Serral, Maru and Rogue for a online Bo3, I would take Rogue 10 out of 10 Times. Yes he can be realy. But he is the most volatile. PartinG isn t in the best shape and MaxPax took Maps of him in the past allready. Special is by far the weakest invited player and MaxPax has even taken Bo3 of of him before. Don t get me wrong, the Protoss hope is still the underdog, but there is a chance.
IMO Maru would be a better choice. It's an online BO3 and I believe in the Big Book of Protoss BS against Maru more. Meomaika style, baby.
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On November 25 2020 21:31 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 06:33 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 25 2020 03:52 Philippe wrote:On November 25 2020 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
Group A group of live. I realy like this for MaxPax, he had super tough groups in both his DH EU so far, lets hope he can do something with that Having to start against Rogue is rough but I agree it's doable for him. It could have been way worse. Otherwise which group you would consider the group of death ? Given the rankings I would say either group B or C, but this doesn't mean everything I d say Group D is group of death. Well Max allways had to Play vs the no1 Seed of his group anyways. And if I had to choose between Reynor, Serral, Maru and Rogue for a online Bo3, I would take Rogue 10 out of 10 Times. Yes he can be realy. But he is the most volatile. PartinG isn t in the best shape and MaxPax took Maps of him in the past allready. Special is by far the weakest invited player and MaxPax has even taken Bo3 of of him before. Don t get me wrong, the Protoss hope is still the underdog, but there is a chance. IMO Maru would be a better choice. It's an online BO3 and I believe in the Big Book of Protoss BS against Maru more. Meomaika style, baby.
MaxPax has been better vs Zerg than vs Terran lately. Also he generally struggles more against Micro heavy players.
I don t see Rogue as one of those guys, who just has the best micro and wins with it, where MaxPax kind of struggles against. Rogue is more the player who figures out a completly brocken built and just stomps you with that. MaxPax is good when the game gets chaotic, so Rogue will fit him better than Maru I belive.
Still even if he just rolls over and dies vs Rogue, he still has a realistic shot vs Parting and Special 
Also Max said it himselfe, that this is probably the best possible group for him
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On November 25 2020 22:24 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 21:31 deacon.frost wrote:On November 25 2020 06:33 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 25 2020 03:52 Philippe wrote:On November 25 2020 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:
Group A group of live. I realy like this for MaxPax, he had super tough groups in both his DH EU so far, lets hope he can do something with that Having to start against Rogue is rough but I agree it's doable for him. It could have been way worse. Otherwise which group you would consider the group of death ? Given the rankings I would say either group B or C, but this doesn't mean everything I d say Group D is group of death. Well Max allways had to Play vs the no1 Seed of his group anyways. And if I had to choose between Reynor, Serral, Maru and Rogue for a online Bo3, I would take Rogue 10 out of 10 Times. Yes he can be realy. But he is the most volatile. PartinG isn t in the best shape and MaxPax took Maps of him in the past allready. Special is by far the weakest invited player and MaxPax has even taken Bo3 of of him before. Don t get me wrong, the Protoss hope is still the underdog, but there is a chance. IMO Maru would be a better choice. It's an online BO3 and I believe in the Big Book of Protoss BS against Maru more. Meomaika style, baby. MaxPax has been better vs Zerg than vs Terran lately. Also he generally struggles more against Micro heavy players. I don t see Rogue as one of those guys, who just has the best micro and wins with it, where MaxPax kind of struggles against. Rogue is more the player who figures out a completly brocken built and just stomps you with that. MaxPax is good when the game gets chaotic, so Rogue will fit him better than Maru I belive. Still even if he just rolls over and dies vs Rogue, he still has a realistic shot vs Parting and Special Also Max said it himselfe, that this is probably the best possible group for him
Micro heavy, Korean vs European online. Are you sure about the micro heavy thing being a thing on this match?
Edit> since when do player know anything about their groups? There are some players who are picking their opponents in the GSL with them big words and then lose to them
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Anyone else not see it showing on the calendar?
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