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On November 21 2020 20:27 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2020 19:23 dbRic1203 wrote:Korean online qualifiers and walkovers in the lower breaket. Name a more iconic duo  Even now, where the Koreans stream into the EPT Open Cups, we see multiple Walkovers there  At least it seems to be less Bad as in previous events.. JAGW teamkill. While Cure & Trap aren't on the same team anymore, the curse doesn't care.
True 
But we had quite a few DPG and Afreeca Freecs Team kills this year as well 
Also Time shows, that his strong showing at DH Winter was no fluke :D
E.: As I wrote that, TIME got destroyed 0-2 by DRG RIP
So with only Protoss qualifing in the EU qualifier and only Zergs in the Kr one, we will have Terrans only in the NA one tomorrow? I ll go with Byun, Cure and Heromarine then
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On November 21 2020 21:04 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2020 20:27 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2020 19:23 dbRic1203 wrote:Korean online qualifiers and walkovers in the lower breaket. Name a more iconic duo Even now, where the Koreans stream into the EPT Open Cups, we see multiple Walkovers there At least it seems to be less Bad as in previous events.. JAGW teamkill. While Cure & Trap aren't on the same team anymore, the curse doesn't care. True But we had quite a few DPG and Afreeca Freecs Team kills this year as well Also Time shows, that his strong showing at DH Winter was no fluke :D E.: As I wrote that, TIME got destroyed 0-2 by DRG RIP So with only Protoss qualifing in the EU qualifier and only Zergs in the Kr one, we will have Terrans only in the NA one tomorrow? I ll go with Byun, Cure and Heromarine then
IMO Zest has a pretty good shot at qualifying via NA. I would say Zest, Cure and ... how's TIME's connection to NA?
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On November 21 2020 23:38 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2020 21:04 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 21 2020 20:27 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2020 19:23 dbRic1203 wrote:Korean online qualifiers and walkovers in the lower breaket. Name a more iconic duo Even now, where the Koreans stream into the EPT Open Cups, we see multiple Walkovers there At least it seems to be less Bad as in previous events.. JAGW teamkill. While Cure & Trap aren't on the same team anymore, the curse doesn't care. True But we had quite a few DPG and Afreeca Freecs Team kills this year as well Also Time shows, that his strong showing at DH Winter was no fluke :D E.: As I wrote that, TIME got destroyed 0-2 by DRG RIP So with only Protoss qualifing in the EU qualifier and only Zergs in the Kr one, we will have Terrans only in the NA one tomorrow? I ll go with Byun, Cure and Heromarine then IMO Zest has a pretty good shot at qualifying via NA. I would say Zest, Cure and ... how's TIME's connection to NA?
No no no, it hast be 3 Terrans
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Neeb should have a good shot this time.
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 Cure and  PartinG should be favorites to qualify in the NA upper bracket
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On November 23 2020 05:25 SmoKim wrote:Cure and PartinG should be favorites to qualify in the NA upper bracket
They're not by any means heavy favourites though--the brackets are stacked enough that there's quite a few players with a realistic shot, and no single player is a shoo-in. PartinG hasn't been doing too well recently, so ByuN might well even have a slightly better chance than PartinG does
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On November 23 2020 05:25 SmoKim wrote:Cure and PartinG should be favorites to qualify in the NA upper bracket
disagree with parting since he took a month off without touching sc2. looks a bit sloppy on stream.
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NeebvT too good (soul is actually the bonjwa for beating him yesterday)
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On November 22 2020 00:26 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2020 23:38 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2020 21:04 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 21 2020 20:27 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2020 19:23 dbRic1203 wrote:Korean online qualifiers and walkovers in the lower breaket. Name a more iconic duo Even now, where the Koreans stream into the EPT Open Cups, we see multiple Walkovers there At least it seems to be less Bad as in previous events.. JAGW teamkill. While Cure & Trap aren't on the same team anymore, the curse doesn't care. True But we had quite a few DPG and Afreeca Freecs Team kills this year as well Also Time shows, that his strong showing at DH Winter was no fluke :D E.: As I wrote that, TIME got destroyed 0-2 by DRG RIP So with only Protoss qualifing in the EU qualifier and only Zergs in the Kr one, we will have Terrans only in the NA one tomorrow? I ll go with Byun, Cure and Heromarine then IMO Zest has a pretty good shot at qualifying via NA. I would say Zest, Cure and ... how's TIME's connection to NA? No no no, it hast be 3 Terrans
Neeb says hi
+ Show Spoiler +can still be 2 terrans though
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Okay protoss appears to finally be not bad, I might have to start watching more games again 
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On November 23 2020 08:19 Nebuchad wrote:Okay protoss appears to finally be not bad, I might have to start watching more games again Protoss is usually quite good up until the finals. I just watch tournaments and then turn them off at the grand finals. :D
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On November 23 2020 08:21 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2020 08:19 Nebuchad wrote:Okay protoss appears to finally be not bad, I might have to start watching more games again Protoss is usually quite good up until the finals. I just watch tournaments and then turn them off at the grand finals. :D
Protoss really shines in qualifiers imo. Like the King of Battles qualifiers had some great Protoss performance. Now during the tournament itself...
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On November 23 2020 05:48 mikedupp wrote:disagree with parting since he took a month off without touching sc2. looks a bit sloppy on stream.
Shows what I know. PartinG looked pretty damn good today. Capped it off 2-0ing Byun.
Byun told PartinG on stream "it'd be epic if you forfeit and let me in" lmao
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Long game between Lambo and uThermal--if Armani vs uThermal is similar the winner of Elazer vs Cure will have quite a while to wait.
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Wardii is still at this. He needs more credit for casting these tournaments. Keep in mind he's casting and observing by himself too. What a man!
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Did Byun or Elazer win the lowerbracket qualifier?
On November 23 2020 10:37 geokilla wrote:
Wardii is still at this. He needs more credit for casting these tournaments. Keep in mind he's casting and observing by himself too. What a man!
Wardi is a true ESPORTS hero
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So with the NA qualifier almost done, I did ve looked into the Korea vs foreigne games.
As these are the 2nd tier EU players + Neeb and Astrea vs the 2nd Tier Korea players, this gives us some much needed insight on how these players perform against each other.
As discussed in multiple other threads here, it appears that on the top level the gap between Korea and foreignland keeps on getting smaller. So let s see how the next tier of players did when facing each other:
The obvious first, so far 1 Korean and 1 foreigner Qualified and also one each is in the last qualifing match, wich let us asume, the gap in the 2nd tier players is also pretty narrow.
Nevertheless there have been more noteable foreigners than Koreans, so that doesn t tell us the whole story.
We actually had some early defeats from Koreans, wich is quite noteable, as both Creator and Patience, both beeing On - Off Code S players) lost their first round matches.
Overall when looking at all matches between Korean and foreign players, who are "noteable" on Liquipedia we get these results:
Matchscore
Korea 11 - 7 foreignland
Mapscore
Korea 26 - 19 foreignland
This let us asume, that the gap also is quite smaller than what we have seen a couple of years ago for the 2nd tier players from both regions, as the Koreans are way less dominant, than some might expect.
Full overview:
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/6MbbSKm.png)
Note: I excluded non-noteable players, as I asume, that those are non pros, that don t have a chance anyways. Also I just took games from liquipedia.
The entire analysis is also taken with some salt, as it is just a momentary picture in an quite volatile game. Also games might have been imapcted by time of play, lag etc. I was just interstet in how things stand at the moment, as this was one very rare opportunity to see how the 2nd tier players fare against each other.
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Byun defeats Elazer for the final spots
Qualified players:
EU: MaxPax, ShowTime and Harstem
KR: Solar and DongRaeGu
AM: Parting, Neeb and Byun
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Thank god Elazer didn't qualify, not that dislike Elazer but it would have been so unfair to the guys eliminated in the EU quali LB.
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