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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 17:30 GMT
#1061
Most predictable 2-rax 2020
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 17 2020 17:30 GMT
#1062
Maru pls, stop proxing
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-17 17:32:42
July 17 2020 17:31 GMT
#1063
On July 18 2020 02:25 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:23 Nakajin wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:18 ytherik wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:11 Moonerz wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:09 ytherik wrote:
It seems EU is slowly becoming the new South Korea in a sense that the advantage of better practice environment that Koreans had for all those years is now shifting to EU. There is now enough high level players and fresh blood in EU to allow the top players to improve collectively at a very high pace.


It also helps that the scene is very euro-centric right now, the big tournaments are generally hosted in EU. Most of these online events happen at good time for EU, bad time for KR also in the middle of a GSL season.

Yes that's also a big factor for sure.


A lot of KR players aren't as active as before, sOs is almost AFK, Rogue doesn't really practice, TY has a side job, soO's essentially retired, Stats is taking it easy in his last year, Dark isn't going out of his way to play in tournament...



Where have you got a couple of these from? I've not heard any suggestion at all that Rogue is not practising. Also Stats isn't exactly taking it easy, the guy has been playing in almost all of the recent tournaments in Korea. ESL weekly, Olimoleague, Douyu Cup as well as GSL obviously.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
July 17 2020 17:31 GMT
#1064
Not quite sure why Clem played poor in the rematch. Or did Trap just play better compared to earlier?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 17 2020 17:31 GMT
#1065
On July 18 2020 02:29 Lexender wrote:
Why is every getting existed about, a Z is going to win the whole thing anyway lol.

I cant be a fan of zerg players? :D
~~~~~
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 17 2020 17:31 GMT
#1066
On July 18 2020 02:29 Lexender wrote:
Why is every getting existed about, a Z is going to win the whole thing anyway lol.

Having at least one PvZ is more exciting than only TvZ and ZvZ
It appears I have been chosen.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 17:32 GMT
#1067
Man even Maru's proxies that don't do anything usually don't go this bad.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 17 2020 17:32 GMT
#1068
Special is in Korea? Because i can't wrap my head around Maru going for proxy reapers in situation where he may have suboptimal ping.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 17 2020 17:32 GMT
#1069
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 17 2020 17:33 GMT
#1070
Proxy 2-rax reaper is usually a nice build to transition out of while only being slightly behind... but maybe not after losing the first three reapers for almost no damage.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
July 17 2020 17:33 GMT
#1071
On July 18 2020 02:31 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:29 Lexender wrote:
Why is every getting existed about, a Z is going to win the whole thing anyway lol.

Having at least one PvZ is more exciting than only TvZ and ZvZ


Is it? We all know how PvZs end this season.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 17 2020 17:33 GMT
#1072
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 17 2020 17:34 GMT
#1073
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


Not round robin but GSL format. More opportunities for upsets like Raynor coming out first
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-17 17:35:24
July 17 2020 17:34 GMT
#1074
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


You've been around for years.

I don't think someone needs to explain how double-elim GSL groups work.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1075
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?

'Wait it's a flawed format?'

'Always has been'
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1076
On July 18 2020 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.


I guess I never really got into those discussions, I genuinely don't understand lol
it'd make more sense to me if liquipedia showed mini-brackets or something
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1077
that raven targeting gg
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1078
Well this is a good attempt to throw for sure.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1079
specials specification reverted from KR to NA terran
~~~~~
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1080
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


They're really 4-man double elimination brackets.
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