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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1081
10/10 game, failed proxy reapers into complete disaster of all-in.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1082
If he Special dropped the matrix he wins but he messed up.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 17 2020 17:35 GMT
#1083
On July 18 2020 02:35 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


They're really 4-man double elimination brackets.


yeah I get that now after the overly hostile responses haha
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
July 17 2020 17:36 GMT
#1084
and suddenly Maru is up on supply
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-17 17:38:15
July 17 2020 17:36 GMT
#1085
On July 18 2020 02:35 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.


I guess I never really got into those discussions, I genuinely don't understand lol
it'd make more sense to me if liquipedia showed mini-brackets or something


Well it's:
AvsB
CvsD
Loser play the loser
Winner play the winner
Winner of the loser match play the loser of the winner match
So
Cure vs Has
Clem vs Trap
Has vs Trap
Cure vs Clem
Trap vs Clem


Did you never watch GSL?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 17 2020 17:37 GMT
#1086
Stop letting Maru win these games, now he'll just do it again
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 17 2020 17:37 GMT
#1087
On July 18 2020 02:36 Argonauta wrote:
and suddenly Maru is up on supply

"Suddenly"

Special just pretty much threw the game on his push sadly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 17 2020 17:37 GMT
#1088
On July 18 2020 02:35 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.


I guess I never really got into those discussions, I genuinely don't understand lol
it'd make more sense to me if liquipedia showed mini-brackets or something

Wasn't meant to be that snarky, sorry.

And it's true, showing them as mini-brackets would definitely reduce amount of complaints about it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 17 2020 17:37 GMT
#1089
On July 18 2020 02:35 Lexender wrote:
If he Special dropped the matrix he wins but he messed up.

I think he didn't have the energy and thought the raven would die before getting the energy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
July 17 2020 17:38 GMT
#1090
On July 18 2020 02:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:36 Argonauta wrote:
and suddenly Maru is up on supply

"Suddenly"

Special just pretty much threw the game on his push sadly.



yes I dont get why he didn't trow a disable to the tank, I thought he had enough energy
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 17 2020 17:38 GMT
#1091
On July 18 2020 02:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:35 travis wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.


I guess I never really got into those discussions, I genuinely don't understand lol
it'd make more sense to me if liquipedia showed mini-brackets or something

Wasn't meant to be that snarky, sorry.

And it's true, showing them as mini-brackets would definitely reduce amount of complaints about it.


I mean the complaints aren't that common and showing mini-brackets would take twice the space on a page.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-17 17:38:37
July 17 2020 17:38 GMT
#1092
On July 18 2020 02:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:35 Lexender wrote:
If he Special dropped the matrix he wins but he messed up.

I think he didn't have the energy and thought the raven would die before getting the energy.



RIP me, I tough he had
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 17 2020 17:39 GMT
#1093
On July 18 2020 02:35 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?

'Wait it's a flawed format?'

'Always has been'

hahaha, that almost made me spill my ice tea :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 17 2020 17:39 GMT
#1094
On July 18 2020 02:38 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:37 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:35 Lexender wrote:
If he Special dropped the matrix he wins but he messed up.

I think he didn't have the energy and thought the raven would die before getting the energy.



RIP me, I tough he had

I'm not sure myself, it's hard to say sometimes if a raven has 75 energy or 70.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-17 17:41:40
July 17 2020 17:40 GMT
#1095
On July 18 2020 02:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:35 travis wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.


I guess I never really got into those discussions, I genuinely don't understand lol
it'd make more sense to me if liquipedia showed mini-brackets or something

Wasn't meant to be that snarky, sorry.

And it's true, showing them as mini-brackets would definitely reduce amount of complaints about it.


I mean the complaints aren't that common and showing mini-brackets would take twice the space on a page.


True, they are not common in SC2 because we got way too used to it (and because admittedly 4-man RR groups is a bad idea in StarCraft's reality of match-ups). Everytime it's used anywhere else, you will always have a bunch of people crying about scenarios like Trap's.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 17 2020 17:41 GMT
#1096
We get the bracket announcement right after this, right?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
July 17 2020 17:41 GMT
#1097
On July 18 2020 02:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 02:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:35 travis wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
On July 18 2020 02:32 travis wrote:
hi guys so I check liquipedia to see how it's going and see this:


trap goes 2-3 vs clem overall (1-1 in series)

trap never plays against cure (the best player in the group), whereas clem does

and then trap advances?

can someone explain this to me?

in what way are these "groups" ?


I thought complaints about GSL groups were old 8 years ago.


I guess I never really got into those discussions, I genuinely don't understand lol
it'd make more sense to me if liquipedia showed mini-brackets or something

Wasn't meant to be that snarky, sorry.

And it's true, showing them as mini-brackets would definitely reduce amount of complaints about it.


I mean the complaints aren't that common and showing mini-brackets would take twice the space on a page.


True, they are not common in SC2 because we got way too used to it (and because admittedly 4-man RR groups is a bad idea in StarCraft's reality of match-ups). Everytime it's used anywhere, you will always have a bunch of people crying about scenarios like Trap's.



Well is not that unfair, like Trap had one more map win than Clem and in the head to head are 1-1
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
July 17 2020 17:42 GMT
#1098
On July 18 2020 02:41 Elentos wrote:
We get the bracket announcement right after this, right?


I mean Cure needs to know when to put the alarm clock
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
July 17 2020 17:42 GMT
#1099
Special seems always to choke against TY/maru...
It surely doesn't help they are way better but what a throw on this first game.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
July 17 2020 17:43 GMT
#1100
nice round around
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
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