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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
July 19 2020 15:31 GMT
#2101
On July 20 2020 00:28 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:27 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans



Reynor ruining Wax's attempts to make the LR just enjoy the games


the worst thing about progaming is the progamers

alphastar vs alphastar matches when?


I'll only watch if it's an offline event, otherwise it doesn't really count tbh
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-19 15:31:57
July 19 2020 15:31 GMT
#2102
On July 20 2020 00:30 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:28 Waxangel wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:27 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


Reynor ruining Wax's attempts to make the LR just enjoy the games


the worst thing about progaming is the progamers

alphastar vs alphastar matches when?

It's 100% the fans of the progamers.


Can we just agree Starcraft is so much better when all of us aren't watching?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33659 Posts
July 19 2020 15:31 GMT
#2103
On July 20 2020 00:30 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:28 Luolis wrote:
What servers will Serral vs Cure be played on?

Central because Finland is eastern europe


Servers should be determined by someone measuring distances on a physical Globe using a sextant
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 19 2020 15:31 GMT
#2104
On July 20 2020 00:25 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:20 StaNi wrote:
It's why "goat" Serral and others never win GSL.

I would say a more likely chance that Serral has never won a GSL would be that he has never played one...


God, Serral fans always making excuses.

Can't you just accept that your favourite player lost because of ping, jet lag and not caring about the tournament, like a normal person?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
July 19 2020 15:32 GMT
#2105
On July 20 2020 00:30 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


lmfao

i wonder why he never brought anything up after 2-0'ing maru and 3-2ing innovation


Because they probably agreed on rotating and did not force West only?!

Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33659 Posts
July 19 2020 15:32 GMT
#2106
On July 20 2020 00:31 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:30 Ej_ wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:28 Waxangel wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:27 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


Reynor ruining Wax's attempts to make the LR just enjoy the games


the worst thing about progaming is the progamers

alphastar vs alphastar matches when?

It's 100% the fans of the progamers.


Can we just agree Starcraft if so much better when all of us aren't watching?


The matches haven't been played yet, but I'm pretty sure AlphaStar Agent 239834 only beat AlphaStar Agent 04720 because of imbalance
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
July 19 2020 15:32 GMT
#2107
On July 20 2020 00:30 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:28 Luolis wrote:
What servers will Serral vs Cure be played on?

Central because Finland is eastern europe


So it's different from the group stage? Weren't Inno v Serral alternating west and central?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 19 2020 15:32 GMT
#2108
On July 20 2020 00:31 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:30 Ej_ wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:28 Waxangel wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:27 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


Reynor ruining Wax's attempts to make the LR just enjoy the games


the worst thing about progaming is the progamers

alphastar vs alphastar matches when?

It's 100% the fans of the progamers.


Can we just agree Starcraft if so much better when all of us aren't watching?

It's probably true, given that you only get to see less than 1% of all the games between pros. Statistically, you miss most good Starcraft played.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 19 2020 15:32 GMT
#2109
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


It's either a 20 ping advantage for Koreans on NA West, or 60 ping advantage for the Western Europeans on NA Central, so yeah all NA West makes sense to me.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 19 2020 15:33 GMT
#2110
On July 20 2020 00:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
I just hope if Serral makes it through there’s a couple of pages left in the Protoss book of bullshit for Trap left to use.


There's an endless number of pages, but I'm worried Trap has an abridged version. I hope he practised with Has.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 19 2020 15:33 GMT
#2111
Reynor whining is a bad look. Even more happy Trap won now

stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 19 2020 15:34 GMT
#2112
Urgh, I better watch og than Nathanias's casting.
The international casting scene is just a old club.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
July 19 2020 15:34 GMT
#2113
On July 20 2020 00:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


It's either a 20 ping advantage for Koreans on NA West, or 60 ping advantage for the Western Europeans on NA Central, so yeah all NA West makes sense to me.


Any sources on those numbers?
I hear different numbers fitting their narrative from everyone.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33659 Posts
July 19 2020 15:34 GMT
#2114
On July 20 2020 00:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


It's either a 20 ping advantage for Koreans on NA West, or 60 ping advantage for the Western Europeans on NA Central, so yeah all NA West makes sense to me.


too bad this isn't WarCraft 3 classic, where we could just have some fan host it out of his house in Denver, Colorado.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 19 2020 15:35 GMT
#2115
On July 20 2020 00:34 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


It's either a 20 ping advantage for Koreans on NA West, or 60 ping advantage for the Western Europeans on NA Central, so yeah all NA West makes sense to me.


too bad this isn't WarCraft 3 classic, where we could just have some fan host it out of his house in Denver, Colorado.

Or Starcraft 1 where the game is p2p
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 19 2020 15:36 GMT
#2116
On July 20 2020 00:32 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:31 Nakajin wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:30 Ej_ wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:28 Waxangel wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:27 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


Reynor ruining Wax's attempts to make the LR just enjoy the games


the worst thing about progaming is the progamers

alphastar vs alphastar matches when?

It's 100% the fans of the progamers.


Can we just agree Starcraft if so much better when all of us aren't watching?


The matches haven't been played yet, but I'm pretty sure AlphaStar Agent 239834 only beat AlphaStar Agent 04720 because of imbalance


This is bullshit, Agent 04720 has been slumping for a while
AdministratorBreak the chains
StaNi
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
July 19 2020 15:36 GMT
#2117
On July 20 2020 00:25 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:20 StaNi wrote:
It's why "goat" Serral and others never win GSL.

I would say a more likely chance that Serral has never won a GSL would be that he has never played one...

Yeah, I very want Serral, Reynor and maybe Clem to play in GSL in future, But I think they know, they have a much less chance than in 3-4 days tournament
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-19 15:37:04
July 19 2020 15:36 GMT
#2118
Link to Reynor twitter doesn't show this bit of info from Reynor's followup tweet in comments:

if the players dont agree the rules say west only
and trap forced west only
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 19 2020 15:36 GMT
#2119
On July 20 2020 00:17 whiterabbit wrote:
Trap is so likeable tho, kinda happy he won even if I was on Reynor hypetrain.

"to be honest i dont think ping is the reason i lost i didnt play too hot but giving the koreans the chance to force west only is a bit of a joke" - Reynor on Twitter.

Hmmm...

Playing with high ping absolutely gave him the advantage against INno. Bio terran is a joke to play cross server so he can't really complain there.

But I'll give him credit that it might give protoss a buff in PvZ, at least some styles, so it's understandable if he's frustrated after that match. I think HeroMarine got screwed over vs Trap as well because of it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
July 19 2020 15:36 GMT
#2120
On July 20 2020 00:34 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:25 Waxangel wrote:
What a dilemma for Korean elitists, now Reynor says the network conditions favor the Koreans

https://twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1284869074103808000


It's either a 20 ping advantage for Koreans on NA West, or 60 ping advantage for the Western Europeans on NA Central, so yeah all NA West makes sense to me.


Any sources on those numbers?
I hear different numbers fitting their narrative from everyone.

It depends of player connections, to be honest it's not a perfect system but it's the best possible to me. When I was doing Nation Wars I would ask players to send me their ping on all servers and then I would pick the fairest one.
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