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On March 21 2020 19:04 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 18:59 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won. As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages. For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao They didn't, ultras at the time of FD's win were bugged and actually very strong (I think it was their cleave damage applying to buildings)
Oh shit I forgot about that. Basically attacking buildings applied cleave damage to all units around the building, so any SCVs repairing buildings being attacked by ultras would just die
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I wonder who invented this build. Cure obviously used it at IEM and now today, but uThermal also used it earlier vs Parting in the EPT Cup. uThermal was one of the first to do BC vs Z and Battle mech vs Z so maybe he did it, but i'd be surprised if Cure saw it from uThermal specifically.
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On March 21 2020 19:05 blooblooblahblah wrote:
I wonder who invented this build. Cure obviously used it at IEM and now today, but uThermal also used it earlier vs Parting in the EPT Cup. uThermal was one of the first to do BC vs Z and Battle mech vs Z so maybe he did it, but i'd be surprised if Cure saw it from uThermal specifically.
Probably avilo
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On March 21 2020 19:05 blooblooblahblah wrote:
I wonder who invented this build. Cure obviously used it at IEM and now today, but uThermal also used it earlier vs Parting in the EPT Cup. uThermal was one of the first to do BC vs Z and Battle mech vs Z so maybe he did it, but i'd be surprised if Cure saw it from uThermal specifically.
Cure was the first person who I've seen do this against Protoss, well before the EPT announcement.
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Are the maps any good? This is only the first full series I get to watch.
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On March 21 2020 19:05 blooblooblahblah wrote:
I wonder who invented this build. Cure obviously used it at IEM and now today, but uThermal also used it earlier vs Parting in the EPT Cup. uThermal was one of the first to do BC vs Z and Battle mech vs Z so maybe he did it, but i'd be surprised if Cure saw it from uThermal specifically.
Cure was using it online cups prior to IEM Katowice; Mr "I watch everything" Elentos could prolly give you a more specific account
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On March 21 2020 19:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote:
Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!!
How was it?
Maru still in godlike form? Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart.
Oh crap, a win is a win though so it's nice to see Maru finally go far in ST for once
I didn't expect less from INno and soO 
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On March 21 2020 19:04 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 18:59 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won. As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages. For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao They didn't, ultras at the time of FD's win were bugged and actually very strong (I think it was their cleave damage applying to buildings)
More like their cleave radius increasing with building size, so if they attacked a PF they would instantly cleave any nearby bio/scvs.
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On March 21 2020 19:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:05 blooblooblahblah wrote:
I wonder who invented this build. Cure obviously used it at IEM and now today, but uThermal also used it earlier vs Parting in the EPT Cup. uThermal was one of the first to do BC vs Z and Battle mech vs Z so maybe he did it, but i'd be surprised if Cure saw it from uThermal specifically. Cure was the first person who I've seen do this against Protoss, well before the EPT announcement.
Sick, I guess it's him then.
I know technically Fantasy was doing that 1 base version of the build a year ago but this one is wayyyy better.
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Tempest move faster these days right?
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On March 21 2020 19:07 Penev wrote:
Are the maps any good? This is only the first full series I get to watch.
This is literally the first game that we've seen a new map besides Ever Dream (which everyone knew was super standard).
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Dear fucking hell you said oracles are your favorite unit so I figured you'd be better at using them
As for the question of BCs vs Protoss, it's just high investment for usually not enough gain. Much higher risk than against Zerg to lose even the first BC without the Protoss even specifically preparing for it.
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On March 21 2020 19:09 EzioAs wrote:
Tempest move faster these days right?
Well yes, but actually no, but actually yes.
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On March 21 2020 19:09 Elentos wrote:Dear fucking hell you said oracles are your favorite unit so I figured you'd be better at using them
It isn't disruptors? 
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On March 21 2020 19:10 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:09 Elentos wrote:Dear fucking hell you said oracles are your favorite unit so I figured you'd be better at using them It isn't disruptors?
He loves them for their reliability.
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On March 21 2020 18:59 Psychonian wrote:
in other news what the fuck am I watching
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I'm enjoying the fact that everyone is pulling out weird shit this super tournament.
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On March 21 2020 19:09 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:04 Ej_ wrote:On March 21 2020 18:59 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won. As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages. For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao They didn't, ultras at the time of FD's win were bugged and actually very strong (I think it was their cleave damage applying to buildings) More like their cleave radius increasing with building size, so if they attacked a PF they would instantly cleave any nearby bio/scvs.
Ah yes, it was this. The last time I watched this series was a long time ago.
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EPT
