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[GSL 2020] Super Tournament 1 - Day 2 - Page 7

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:58:43
March 21 2020 09:58 GMT
#121
On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then


but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time.

2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time.

On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all


But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won.

As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 09:59 GMT
#122
On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then


but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time.

2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time.

On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all


But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won.

As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.


For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 09:59 GMT
#123
in other news what the fuck am I watching
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#124
On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then


but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time.

2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time.

On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all


But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won.

As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.


I mean, if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.

.....it's still pretty stupid though.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
March 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#125
terraaann
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 10:01:32
March 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#126
Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP"
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
March 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#127
All of this because Dear didn't cancel a shade.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
March 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#128
Dear got so unlucky :/
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
March 21 2020 10:00 GMT
#129
Honestly,

every time I see this build it either works very well or almost works. I've never seen it outright fail.

Also, Artosis has lost his passion if he hasn't seen this build yet.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
March 21 2020 10:01 GMT
#130
Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!!
How was it?
Maru still in godlike form?
WriterMaru
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 21 2020 10:01 GMT
#131
On March 21 2020 19:00 Waxangel wrote:
Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP"


Stalkers, is my understanding.
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 10:02 GMT
#132
The meta moves in circles, balanced all the while on a gleaming razor's edge

obscure music references aside, not honestly sure why people just stopped using bunkers this way. i guess incontrol was right when he said the salvage change made the bunker rush not viable anymore
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 21 2020 10:02 GMT
#133
On March 21 2020 19:00 Waxangel wrote:
Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP"

Because the pro goto opening is blink stalkers? I am no Lambo
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
March 21 2020 10:03 GMT
#134
On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote:
Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!!
How was it?
Maru still in godlike form?

Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 21 2020 10:03 GMT
#135
On March 21 2020 19:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote:
Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!!
How was it?
Maru still in godlike form?

Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart.


Yeah, it turns out Inno has a slightly thicker skull so he won the headbutting contest.
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TheSneak
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia118 Posts
March 21 2020 10:03 GMT
#136
... So we got a BC in a protoss base with a bunch of bunkers marines and ST's vs a random collosus and some stalkers

Because of an accidental finishing shade!
"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -A. Einstein
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 10:03 GMT
#137
On March 21 2020 19:03 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 19:03 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote:
Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!!
How was it?
Maru still in godlike form?

Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart.


Yeah, it turns out Inno has a slightly thicker skull so he won the headbutting contest.

I don't think there's a better way to describe that series than this post
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EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
235 Posts
March 21 2020 10:04 GMT
#138
On March 21 2020 19:01 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 19:00 Waxangel wrote:
Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP"


Stalkers, is my understanding.


I would think so too. The standard Blink + Robo (Observer) should counter most BC rushes pretty easily.
花は桜木人は武士
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 10:04:59
March 21 2020 10:04 GMT
#139
On March 21 2020 19:03 TheSneak wrote:
... So we got a BC in a protoss base with a bunch of bunkers marines and ST's vs a random collosus and some stalkers

Because of an accidental finishing shade!

Wasn't that cancellation of the shade?
Edit> wasn't watching back then
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 21 2020 10:04 GMT
#140
On March 21 2020 18:59 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then


but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time.

2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time.

On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all


But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won.

As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.


For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao

They didn't, ultras at the time of FD's win were bugged and actually very strong (I think it was their cleave damage applying to buildings)
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