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United States32525 Posts
On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote: Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all
But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won.
As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.
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On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote: Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won. As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.
For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao
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in other news what the fuck am I watching
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On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote: Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won. As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages.
I mean, if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.
.....it's still pretty stupid though.
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United States32525 Posts
Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP"
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All of this because Dear didn't cancel a shade.
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Honestly,
every time I see this build it either works very well or almost works. I've never seen it outright fail.
Also, Artosis has lost his passion if he hasn't seen this build yet.
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France12482 Posts
Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!! How was it? Maru still in godlike form?
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On March 21 2020 19:00 Waxangel wrote: Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP"
Stalkers, is my understanding.
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The meta moves in circles, balanced all the while on a gleaming razor's edge
obscure music references aside, not honestly sure why people just stopped using bunkers this way. i guess incontrol was right when he said the salvage change made the bunker rush not viable anymore
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Czech Republic12116 Posts
On March 21 2020 19:00 Waxangel wrote: Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP" Because the pro goto opening is blink stalkers? I am no Lambo
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On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote: Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!! How was it? Maru still in godlike form? Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart.
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On March 21 2020 19:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote: Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!! How was it? Maru still in godlike form? Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart.
Yeah, it turns out Inno has a slightly thicker skull so he won the headbutting contest.
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... So we got a BC in a protoss base with a bunch of bunkers marines and ST's vs a random collosus and some stalkers
Because of an accidental finishing shade!
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On March 21 2020 19:03 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:03 Elentos wrote:On March 21 2020 19:01 Poopi wrote: Oh fuck it was too early in the morning and I had bad sleep, I missed Maru and INno 3-0ing their opponents!!! How was it? Maru still in godlike form? Stats was absolutely atrocious. You've not seen him as bad as today in years, he made it super easy for Maru. Inno vs soO was entertaining, a mechanical battle of two guys who couldn't possibly be assed to play smart. Yeah, it turns out Inno has a slightly thicker skull so he won the headbutting contest. I don't think there's a better way to describe that series than this post
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On March 21 2020 19:01 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 19:00 Waxangel wrote: Is there a Terran Lambo that can break down why BC in TvP is underused/actually trash? I'm like, baffled by how it's Cure's special move, but not frequently imitated. I'm willing to accept any kind of analysis about it, be it "it's not actually good but it works cause people don't think about it" or "it's really good and it should be used a lot more in TvP" Stalkers, is my understanding.
I would think so too. The standard Blink + Robo (Observer) should counter most BC rushes pretty easily.
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Czech Republic12116 Posts
On March 21 2020 19:03 TheSneak wrote: ... So we got a BC in a protoss base with a bunch of bunkers marines and ST's vs a random collosus and some stalkers
Because of an accidental finishing shade! Wasn't that cancellation of the shade? Edit> wasn't watching back then
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On March 21 2020 18:59 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2020 18:58 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote: Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks? Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time. 2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time. On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all But he didn't! So Fruitdealer won. As it is with many strategies that work in important games but could have been defeated with hindsight, throughout the ages. For sure. I don't mean to take anything away from Fruitdealer's win, just saying that ultras sucked then too lmao They didn't, ultras at the time of FD's win were bugged and actually very strong (I think it was their cleave damage applying to buildings)
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