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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
March 21 2020 09:47 GMT
#101
Depressing but unsurprising to see Stats go out like that, military service and what not
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 21 2020 09:48 GMT
#102
On March 21 2020 18:47 Z3nith wrote:
Depressing but unsurprising to see Stats go out like that, military service and what not

Compare to how Classic played with military service looming.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
March 21 2020 09:49 GMT
#103
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:51:05
March 21 2020 09:49 GMT
#104
On March 21 2020 18:44 Elentos wrote:
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On March 21 2020 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
Wow, Inno is playing so badly but he's doing it so well. If you know what I mean.

The opposite of soO, who is playing so well but he's doing it badly.


Like Inno should have lost that game. Bio/Tank is directly countered by Vipers and Ultras in the lategame, and Inno just refused to tech up at all. Not a Ghost or Liberator in sight. But Inno managed to keep his macro going and ground out a war of attrition until he got the winning tech snipe.

That's such a dumb way to win though.
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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
March 21 2020 09:49 GMT
#105
On March 21 2020 18:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:47 Z3nith wrote:
Depressing but unsurprising to see Stats go out like that, military service and what not

Compare to how Classic played with military service looming.


Listen to what Special said about Stats on the pylon show, he's barely been practicing.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 21 2020 09:50 GMT
#106
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Why remember dark days like that when they get in the way of the ultras into lose narrative?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
March 21 2020 09:51 GMT
#107
On March 21 2020 18:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Why remember dark days like that when they get in the way of the ultras into lose narrative?


the deep TL state will erase all mentions of ultras actually winning >:0
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 21 2020 09:51 GMT
#108
On March 21 2020 18:49 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
Wow, Inno is playing so badly but he's doing it so well. If you know what I mean.

The opposite of soO, who is playing so well but he's doing it badly.


Like Inno should have lost that game. Bio/Tank is directly countered by Vipers and Ultras in the lategame, and Inno just refused to tech up at all. But Inno managed to keep his macro going and ground out a war of attrition until he got the winning tech snipe.

That's such a dumb way to win though.

A battle between 2 guys who are more brawns than brain. Though Inno has more brain than soO on top of it
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 09:51 GMT
#109
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Hyun once won thanks to a singular ultralisk, does that count?
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 21 2020 09:52 GMT
#110
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg
I Protoss winner, could it be?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:54:52
March 21 2020 09:52 GMT
#111
On March 21 2020 18:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:49 pvsnp wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
Wow, Inno is playing so badly but he's doing it so well. If you know what I mean.

The opposite of soO, who is playing so well but he's doing it badly.


Like Inno should have lost that game. Bio/Tank is directly countered by Vipers and Ultras in the lategame, and Inno just refused to tech up at all. But Inno managed to keep his macro going and ground out a war of attrition until he got the winning tech snipe.

That's such a dumb way to win though.

A battle between 2 guys who are more brawns than brain. Though Inno has more brain than soO on top of it


Just feels like Inno was slightly less dumb, not actually smart at all.

And most importantly, where the hell did TY get his "soO is a ZvT god" prediction from?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 21 2020 09:54 GMT
#112
On March 21 2020 18:52 pvsnp wrote:
And most importantly, where the hell did TY get his "soO is a ZvT god" prediction from?

Maybe soO is actually good in practice, how could anyone tell? Hush was supposedly the best Protoss in the world in CJ Entus practice sessions and the reality of his gameplay in the studio was embarrassing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 09:54 GMT
#113
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 21 2020 09:55 GMT
#114
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then

probably not but he asked so I answered
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 21 2020 09:55 GMT
#115
On March 21 2020 18:52 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:51 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 pvsnp wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
Wow, Inno is playing so badly but he's doing it so well. If you know what I mean.

The opposite of soO, who is playing so well but he's doing it badly.


Like Inno should have lost that game. Bio/Tank is directly countered by Vipers and Ultras in the lategame, and Inno just refused to tech up at all. But Inno managed to keep his macro going and ground out a war of attrition until he got the winning tech snipe.

That's such a dumb way to win though.

A battle between 2 guys who are more brawns than brain. Though Inno has more brain than soO on top of it


Just feels like Inno was slightly less dumb, not actually smart at all.

Still more brain

Maybe Inno purposely handicapped himself, he played the whole game without concussive shells too. Imagine how poorly some of those trades are for soO if banes and hydras get slowed by the 20 marauders.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:57:16
March 21 2020 09:55 GMT
#116
On March 21 2020 18:52 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:51 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 pvsnp wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:44 Elentos wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
Wow, Inno is playing so badly but he's doing it so well. If you know what I mean.

The opposite of soO, who is playing so well but he's doing it badly.


Like Inno should have lost that game. Bio/Tank is directly countered by Vipers and Ultras in the lategame, and Inno just refused to tech up at all. But Inno managed to keep his macro going and ground out a war of attrition until he got the winning tech snipe.

That's such a dumb way to win though.

A battle between 2 guys who are more brawns than brain. Though Inno has more brain than soO on top of it


Just feels like Inno was slightly less dumb, not actually smart at all.

And most importantly, where the hell did TY get his "soO is a ZvT god" prediction from?


I guess....Artosis pointed out that soO has been playing that way since forever though, and he's not wrong. With better execution I suppose it would look stronger.

Ok that Adept fail was hilarious and might cost him the game. Never change Dear, never change.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:56:59
March 21 2020 09:56 GMT
#117
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then


but that argument scales as long or as short with any length of time.

2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 21 2020 09:56 GMT
#118
On March 21 2020 18:56 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 18:54 Psychonian wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:52 Penev wrote:
On March 21 2020 18:49 Superouman wrote:
Did a Zerg ever win thanks to ultralisks?

Fruitdealer did actually. It was great, made me choose zerg

Can you even really count Open Season 1? no one knew what they were doing back then


but that argument scales as long or as short with any amount of time.

2 years later we could be saying everyone was doing shit wrong right now. Gotta appreciate intelligent strategies and creativity in the context of their time.

On the other hand, if Rainbow makes a nonzero number of marauders, it doesn't work at all
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:58:11
March 21 2020 09:57 GMT
#119
Ah, this is what TY refers to as a "John Sun build"

Except usually you hide the fusion core and not the starport.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-21 09:58:20
March 21 2020 09:58 GMT
#120
Just Dear things. Dear derps?
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