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WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-25 19:43:53
January 04 2020 19:01 GMT
#1
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Introducing WardiTV 2020 - the largest event ever by WardiTV. Designed to bring you a high quality online tournament where players can play for big prizes in a tournament that doesn't drag itself out. Four qualifiers, six groups and one playoff bracket all played between January 21st and February 2nd with $7000 to be won.

This event is fully sponsored by viewer & fan irvnasty. Thank you.

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Groups are 4 player dual-elimination with BO5 matches. Top 2 players advance to a 12 player single-elimination bracket.The 2 players with the best map scores from each region are seeded into the RO8.

Group A (KR) - Sunday, Jan 26 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(P)Trap vs (Z)Impact | (Z)Solar vs (T)Dream

Group B (EU) - Sunday, Jan 26 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)Lambo | (Z)Elazer vs (T)Clem

Group C (KR) - Monday, Jan 27 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)TY vs (T)SpeCial | (Z)soO vs (P)PartinG

Group D (EU) - Tuesday, Jan 28 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)uThermal vs (P)Harstem | (Z)Reynor vs (T)Polt

Group E (KR) - Wednesday, Jan 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)Cure vs (P)Zest | (Z)RagnaroK vs (T)INnoVation

Group F (EU) - Thursday, Jan 30 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)HeRoMaRinE vs (T)Soul | (Z)Scarlett vs (P)MaNa

Ro12 - Friday, Jan 31 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
RO12 matches will be kept to EU Server/KR Server only. Mixed server matches should start in the RO8.
Ro8 - Saturday, Feb 01 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Finals Day - Sunday, Feb 02 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

All dates are providing no scheduling conflicts with events that are still yet to be announced.

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$6,000 is distributed across the top 12 players of the main event.

1st - $2,500
2nd - $1,000
3rd/4th - $500
5th-8th - $250
9th-12th - $125

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uk WardiTV
casted by Wardi and joined by ZombieGrub for the playoffs.

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vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
January 04 2020 19:14 GMT
#2
Sweet!! You should reach out to Tobi Lutke (founder of Shopify) and see if he would be interested in sponsoring and increasing the prize pool too!
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
January 04 2020 19:19 GMT
#3
Guys, I’m irvnasty, and I’ve provided the financial support to make this event possible. This post is a little lengthy, but I wanted to give a little background, so bear with me.

Firstly, I want to thank Wardi for his hard work bringing this to fruition. He has been extremely responsive from day one, and his suggestions and guidance in how to approach this have really made him a joy to work with. I have every confidence that he will make this tournament live up to my hopes and expectations and yours. I’m sure all will agree that Wardi personifies passion and commitment to our scene, and I believe that his casting shows unrivaled professionalism in keeping focus where it belongs—on Starcraft, the players themselves, and the decisions they make that create such rich and compelling gameplay.

Secondly, I want to thank ZombieGrub for agreeing to join as co-caster for the event’s knockout stages over the final three days. ZombieGrub’s outstanding game knowledge is supplanted only by her gift for expressing clearly and accessibly the things that she sees developing in the game as they happen.

While our scene is blessed with many great casters, for me Wardi and ZombieGrub are somewhat of a dream team in that I have been enjoying their work casting on Twitch day after day and night after night for years. I feel that I have been along for the ride as each of them has grown into his or her place in the scene. I have long felt that each of them is deserving of more opportunities to cast live events, and I am certain that they will demonstrate that they belong at the mic even as the very best players in the world are at the keyboard. It would gratify me deeply if this event were to blossom into more and similar opportunities for each of them in the future.

I certainly also want to thank the players who will choose to participate. We know that you are busy, and we have tried to put together a format and prize pool, in both the main event and the qualifiers, that will justify your participation and reward you for your success. Likewise, we’ve tried to schedule the event in such a way that it will avoid conflicts and allow your love of competition to prevail. My fingers are crossed that even the biggest names in Starcraft will recognize the benefit of growing grassroots community tournaments to support the future of the game and will consider taking part.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
SlyZ1
Profile Joined March 2018
39 Posts
January 04 2020 19:19 GMT
#4
Just give the money to Cure.
Tastyyyy
Profile Joined July 2018
Portugal95 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-04 19:22:11
January 04 2020 19:20 GMT
#5
Damn, Wardii, you're the man!

I hope there's some matcherino coupons soon

Edit: irvnasty mvp
ImSquanchnHere
Profile Joined March 2019
15 Posts
January 04 2020 19:21 GMT
#6
Wow this is amazing! Can always use more SC2 content to watch while im at work and supposed to be working!!! Makes the time go by
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 04 2020 19:22 GMT
#7
Wow. That's pretty cool.
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
January 04 2020 19:24 GMT
#8
Noice
"What good fortune for goverments that the people do not think."
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 04 2020 19:28 GMT
#9
thats some moolah
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
BsK
Profile Joined April 2010
France18 Posts
January 04 2020 19:32 GMT
#10
This is great for the scene !
Note : there is a shift regarding the schedules : the 21 is a tuesday and not a monday, same for every other dates.
DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
January 04 2020 19:45 GMT
#11
Thank you Wardi. Keep up the good work!
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
January 04 2020 19:54 GMT
#12
Thanks to everyone making it happen.
why even
zenDO
Profile Joined March 2019
Spain25 Posts
January 04 2020 20:07 GMT
#13
Oh wow! This is great news!
Thanks to Wardi and to everyone who's making this possible.
Hype!
SpeCial, Maru, ByuN and TIME <3 | Go Aqueron and SouLeer!
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 04 2020 20:37 GMT
#14
On January 05 2020 04:19 irvnasty wrote:
Guys, I’m irvnasty, and I’ve provided the financial support to make this event possible. This post is a little lengthy, but I wanted to give a little background, so bear with me.

Firstly, I want to thank Wardi for his hard work bringing this to fruition. He has been extremely responsive from day one, and his suggestions and guidance in how to approach this have really made him a joy to work with. I have every confidence that he will make this tournament live up to my hopes and expectations and yours. I’m sure all will agree that Wardi personifies passion and commitment to our scene, and I believe that his casting shows unrivaled professionalism in keeping focus where it belongs—on Starcraft, the players themselves, and the decisions they make that create such rich and compelling gameplay.

Secondly, I want to thank ZombieGrub for agreeing to join as co-caster for the event’s knockout stages over the final three days. ZombieGrub’s outstanding game knowledge is supplanted only by her gift for expressing clearly and accessibly the things that she sees developing in the game as they happen.

While our scene is blessed with many great casters, for me Wardi and ZombieGrub are somewhat of a dream team in that I have been enjoying their work casting on Twitch day after day and night after night for years. I feel that I have been along for the ride as each of them has grown into his or her place in the scene. I have long felt that each of them is deserving of more opportunities to cast live events, and I am certain that they will demonstrate that they belong at the mic even as the very best players in the world are at the keyboard. It would gratify me deeply if this event were to blossom into more and similar opportunities for each of them in the future.

I certainly also want to thank the players who will choose to participate. We know that you are busy, and we have tried to put together a format and prize pool, in both the main event and the qualifiers, that will justify your participation and reward you for your success. Likewise, we’ve tried to schedule the event in such a way that it will avoid conflicts and allow your love of competition to prevail. My fingers are crossed that even the biggest names in Starcraft will recognize the benefit of growing grassroots community tournaments to support the future of the game and will consider taking part.


Thank you so much for such an unbelievable gift to the scene! I can't express how much this means. Highly approve of ZG as a co-caster too. This is going to be awesome, I can't wait to play in it!
Team Liquidalea iacta est
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
January 04 2020 20:52 GMT
#15
Wow this is great! Thanks a lot irvnasty!
And ofc Wardi and ZG too!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-04 20:53:30
January 04 2020 20:52 GMT
#16
What Snute said

Edit: except that part about playing in the tourney lol
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 04 2020 20:58 GMT
#17
On January 05 2020 05:52 BaneRiders wrote:
What Snute said

Edit: except that part about playing in the tourney lol

Did you know that Snute isn't the only player on TL?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
January 04 2020 20:59 GMT
#18
No NA server quals? T_T
Have a good life
LaughNgamezAfreeca
Profile Joined October 2018
129 Posts
January 04 2020 20:59 GMT
#19
Amazing guys!
sugarmuffinpuff
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada38 Posts
January 04 2020 21:14 GMT
#20
Thanks Wardi, and especially irvnasty!
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
January 04 2020 21:14 GMT
#21
On January 05 2020 05:59 Silky wrote:
No NA server quals? T_T


Think EU stands more for foreigner then it does EU, as I'm guessing every player not living in Korea can participate in the EU qualifiers. That or it's related to what server it will be played on.
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-04 21:35:16
January 04 2020 21:20 GMT
#22
(Wiki)WardiTV 2020
(Wiki)WardiTV 2020/Qualifiers
LiquipediaSCV ready | SC2-Liquipedia Admin, reviewer and editor | Wax called me a Liquipedia wizard in one of his articles for 2019 WCS Standings
ZerglingSoup
Profile Joined June 2009
United States346 Posts
January 04 2020 21:33 GMT
#23
On January 05 2020 04:19 irvnasty wrote:
Guys, I’m irvnasty, and I’ve provided the financial support to make this event possible. This post is a little lengthy, but I wanted to give a little background, so bear with me.

Firstly, I want to thank Wardi for his hard work bringing this to fruition. He has been extremely responsive from day one, and his suggestions and guidance in how to approach this have really made him a joy to work with. I have every confidence that he will make this tournament live up to my hopes and expectations and yours. I’m sure all will agree that Wardi personifies passion and commitment to our scene, and I believe that his casting shows unrivaled professionalism in keeping focus where it belongs—on Starcraft, the players themselves, and the decisions they make that create such rich and compelling gameplay.

Secondly, I want to thank ZombieGrub for agreeing to join as co-caster for the event’s knockout stages over the final three days. ZombieGrub’s outstanding game knowledge is supplanted only by her gift for expressing clearly and accessibly the things that she sees developing in the game as they happen.

While our scene is blessed with many great casters, for me Wardi and ZombieGrub are somewhat of a dream team in that I have been enjoying their work casting on Twitch day after day and night after night for years. I feel that I have been along for the ride as each of them has grown into his or her place in the scene. I have long felt that each of them is deserving of more opportunities to cast live events, and I am certain that they will demonstrate that they belong at the mic even as the very best players in the world are at the keyboard. It would gratify me deeply if this event were to blossom into more and similar opportunities for each of them in the future.

I certainly also want to thank the players who will choose to participate. We know that you are busy, and we have tried to put together a format and prize pool, in both the main event and the qualifiers, that will justify your participation and reward you for your success. Likewise, we’ve tried to schedule the event in such a way that it will avoid conflicts and allow your love of competition to prevail. My fingers are crossed that even the biggest names in Starcraft will recognize the benefit of growing grassroots community tournaments to support the future of the game and will consider taking part.



Huge thank-you. Irvnasty saving e-sports. I'm excited for this event!
Stream plz
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
January 04 2020 21:38 GMT
#24
On January 05 2020 06:14 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2020 05:59 Silky wrote:
No NA server quals? T_T


Think EU stands more for foreigner then it does EU, as I'm guessing every player not living in Korea can participate in the EU qualifiers. That or it's related to what server it will be played on.


It is Server Qualifiers
LiquipediaSCV ready | SC2-Liquipedia Admin, reviewer and editor | Wax called me a Liquipedia wizard in one of his articles for 2019 WCS Standings
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
January 04 2020 22:10 GMT
#25
I'll add this, since Wardi is far too classy to do it himself:

If you are excited about this event, please do what you can to spread the word, and consider supporting the stream. Everyone's financial circumstances are his own, but the cost of a film or a meal or even just a cup of coffee, when scaled to the thousands of discrete viewers who may tune in, will go a long way to supporting future events or drawing the attention of prospective sponsors.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
Quincel
Profile Joined August 2012
119 Posts
January 04 2020 22:19 GMT
#26
Great tournament format, great casting team, Wardi's commitment to the scene and ability to contribute to it just gets bigger and better and Irvnasty is a bloody legend!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2212 Posts
January 04 2020 22:20 GMT
#27
Sick, thanks Wardi
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
474 Posts
January 04 2020 22:31 GMT
#28
Very very nice!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 04 2020 23:09 GMT
#29
Wow, this is so cool. Wardi and irvnasty, you guys rock. Starcraft being saved once again
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands675 Posts
January 05 2020 00:20 GMT
#30
Awesome!
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
gnuoy00
Profile Joined October 2017
26 Posts
January 05 2020 01:30 GMT
#31
holy frick! this is awesome!
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States669 Posts
January 05 2020 01:53 GMT
#32
Irvnasty bringing the heat!!! Awesome <3
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
January 05 2020 04:36 GMT
#33
Thanks Wardi and irvnasty!!! <3
tagliatelle
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada69 Posts
January 05 2020 07:07 GMT
#34
Thanks for all the effort put forth by all parties involved! Looking forward to tuning in for this!
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
January 05 2020 09:25 GMT
#35
Huge thanks to you for this tournament Wardi and irvnasty!
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-05 11:40:15
January 05 2020 11:40 GMT
#36
On January 05 2020 06:20 hjpalpha wrote:
(Wiki)WardiTV 2020
(Wiki)WardiTV 2020/Qualifiers


This tournament has server qualifiers and a considerable prize pool, it definitely looks like a Major to me.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 05 2020 12:22 GMT
#37
Freaking hyped! Thanks to everyone making this possible!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
January 05 2020 13:12 GMT
#38
Wow, awesome!
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
January 05 2020 15:16 GMT
#39
Wow irvnasty coming through to support the scene! That’s awesome

Thanks to wardi and ZG too!
Bob_Vernen
Profile Joined July 2018
41 Posts
January 05 2020 15:22 GMT
#40
This is amazing - thank you Wardi, ZG, and especially irvnasty!

As some have already noted (and the rest think, if I may be so bold to say) these are the sort of initiatives that will keep SCII alive and thriving.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 05 2020 19:17 GMT
#41
On January 05 2020 05:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2020 05:52 BaneRiders wrote:
What Snute said

Edit: except that part about playing in the tourney lol

Did you know that Snute isn't the only player on TL?


Yes of course. Why?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 05 2020 20:01 GMT
#42
On January 06 2020 04:17 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2020 05:58 Elentos wrote:
On January 05 2020 05:52 BaneRiders wrote:
What Snute said

Edit: except that part about playing in the tourney lol

Did you know that Snute isn't the only player on TL?


Yes of course. Why?

Just found it interesting you called TLO Snute.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
January 05 2020 20:26 GMT
#43
What a legend.
This tournament will be sick
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 05 2020 21:30 GMT
#44
On January 06 2020 05:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2020 04:17 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 05 2020 05:58 Elentos wrote:
On January 05 2020 05:52 BaneRiders wrote:
What Snute said

Edit: except that part about playing in the tourney lol

Did you know that Snute isn't the only player on TL?


Yes of course. Why?

Just found it interesting you called TLO Snute.


lol, valid question I agree
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
January 05 2020 21:35 GMT
#45
Amazing, thanks for hosting this awesome event!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
January 06 2020 04:36 GMT
#46
This is awesome~! Thanks Irvnasty for the finical support of the event. Wardi and ZG together are going to kill it I can't wait to tune in to watch. This really is a great way to kick off the 10th anniversary year of Sc2~!
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vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
January 06 2020 07:55 GMT
#47
Amazing, thank you all esp. irvnasty!!!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 06 2020 10:02 GMT
#48
Big thanks to irvnasty to put this together!!! hope we got a good player pool too
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
January 06 2020 11:31 GMT
#49
This is amazeballs!!

Thanks so much Wardi and irvnasty!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
The Taxman
Profile Joined July 2018
37 Posts
January 07 2020 04:57 GMT
#50
This is freakin awesome. Good luck running the tournament.
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
January 11 2020 18:48 GMT
#51
Brackets for qualifiers are starting to look pretty sick. Thank you to everyone signed up so far!
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 19 2020 18:48 GMT
#52
If you didn't hear on the stream yesterday : Reynor is our first invited player for the EU Group Stages.
Commentator
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 19 2020 19:33 GMT
#53
On January 20 2020 03:48 WardiTV wrote:
If you didn't hear on the stream yesterday : Reynor is our first invited player for the EU Group Stages.


Phenomenal!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
SuperiaHands
Profile Joined January 2020
1 Post
January 20 2020 22:12 GMT
#54
I CANT BELIEVE THIS STARTS TOMORROW!

This will be INCREDIBLE! and we might get Cure vs Reynor? HYPE!
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 21 2020 10:52 GMT
#55
First European qualifier today! If the stream goes well, we might announce some invites for the European groups !
Commentator
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
January 22 2020 14:18 GMT
#56
And 2 more players are qualified!

(Wiki)Parting and (Wiki)Impact
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 24 2020 15:24 GMT
#57
Proxy 3-rax reaper is spreading in Korean TvT like a disease. Infuriating.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 25 2020 11:05 GMT
#58
https://twitter.com/WardiTV/status/1221018008929304576?s=200
Oof such amazingly stacked Groups
MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 25 2020 11:17 GMT
#59
Yeah not surprised he's struggling to get Korea sorted. Even GSL always went on break for Lunar New Year.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24387 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-25 11:32:28
January 25 2020 11:32 GMT
#60
Sweeeet
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
January 25 2020 14:26 GMT
#61
Serral declined? Pity :/
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 25 2020 15:26 GMT
#62
On January 25 2020 23:26 Harris1st wrote:
Serral declined? Pity :/

Would ve been the suprise of the year, if he accepted (
The last online tournament I remember hin play is ultimate Series or something like that a couple of weeks before BlizzCon 2018..
MaxPax
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 25 2020 19:44 GMT
#63
Initial matches for each group :

Group A (KR) - Sunday, Jan 26 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(P)Trap vs (Z)Impact | (Z)Solar vs (T)Dream

Group B (EU) - Sunday, Jan 26 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)Lambo | (Z)Elazer vs (T)Clem

Group C (KR) - Monday, Jan 27 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)TY vs (T)SpeCial | (Z)soO vs (P)PartinG

Group D (EU) - Tuesday, Jan 28 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)uThermal vs (P)Harstem | (Z)Reynor vs (T)Polt

Group E (KR) - Wednesday, Jan 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)Cure vs (P)Zest | (Z)RagnaroK vs (T)INnoVation

Group F (EU) - Thursday, Jan 30 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
(T)HeRoMaRinE vs (T)Soul | (Z)Scarlett vs (P)MaNa
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 25 2020 20:14 GMT
#64
Line-up is great. If I had the choice though I'd swap around a few players in the Korean groups because for example Cure vs Zest is just such a common online face-off at this point and TY and Special played each other in a qualifying match yesterday.
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irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
January 25 2020 20:39 GMT
#65
On January 26 2020 05:14 Elentos wrote:
Line-up is great. If I had the choice though I'd swap around a few players in the Korean groups because for example Cure vs Zest is just such a common online face-off at this point and TY and Special played each other in a qualifying match yesterday.


Scheduling was a bit of a challenge due to the upcoming lunar new year and EU ESL on Sunday. Wardi had to do a lot of work to fulfill my desire that every initial group had one player from each race. After that, the opening match-ups are mostly 1v4 and 2v3 based upon aligulac rankings to follow a consistent system. The only deviation from that was necessary due to another scheduling conflict.

Considering the complications of organizing 24 players from all around the world over the course of a week, I think Wardi has done a tremendous job of putting together not just a great field overall, but groups that will be very difficult to predict from day one!
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Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
January 26 2020 08:01 GMT
#66
Irvnasty! Thank you for putting money in this. Super cool of you.
StarcraftPeffo
Profile Joined May 2019
Italy66 Posts
January 26 2020 13:34 GMT
#67
Tournament began, the lineup is awesome and i really can't wait for the UE group later today

On January 26 2020 05:39 irvnasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2020 05:14 Elentos wrote:
Line-up is great. If I had the choice though I'd swap around a few players in the Korean groups because for example Cure vs Zest is just such a common online face-off at this point and TY and Special played each other in a qualifying match yesterday.


Scheduling was a bit of a challenge due to the upcoming lunar new year and EU ESL on Sunday. Wardi had to do a lot of work to fulfill my desire that every initial group had one player from each race. After that, the opening match-ups are mostly 1v4 and 2v3 based upon aligulac rankings to follow a consistent system. The only deviation from that was necessary due to another scheduling conflict.

Considering the complications of organizing 24 players from all around the world over the course of a week, I think Wardi has done a tremendous job of putting together not just a great field overall, but groups that will be very difficult to predict from day one!



Thanks for everything man.


Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 26 2020 15:19 GMT
#68
For the purposes of players getting seeded straight to the Ro8, is it safe to assume that 8-3 is not considered better than 6-2?
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WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 26 2020 17:50 GMT
#69
On January 27 2020 00:19 Elentos wrote:
For the purposes of players getting seeded straight to the Ro8, is it safe to assume that 8-3 is not considered better than 6-2?


It'll be seeded by 1st place map scores. If you advanced in 2nd you will go to the ro12 guaranteed.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 26 2020 18:40 GMT
#70
Makes sense. So then the follow-up question is would a tie between the 3 first place players be resolved by bo1 tie breakers?
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WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 27 2020 00:58 GMT
#71
On January 27 2020 03:40 Elentos wrote:
Makes sense. So then the follow-up question is would a tie between the 3 first place players be resolved by bo1 tie breakers?


Yeah, if the seeding difference is the difference between prize money boundaries, BO1 tiebreaker. If the seeding difference is are you Seed #1 or Seed #2 into the RO8 (or in RO12) from your region, its just a coinflip
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 12:18 GMT
#72
How was TY 3-0 Special?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-27 13:24:45
January 27 2020 13:24 GMT
#73
Watching TY this series is... something. Welp
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-27 14:13:10
January 27 2020 14:06 GMT
#74
Ok that TY-soO game on Triton did become quite epic, a solid candidate for best games of the month.

Also, this happened:

"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 15:25 GMT
#75
On January 27 2020 22:24 sneakyfox wrote:
Watching TY this series is... something. Welp

That 5th game had some solid and signature John Sun decision making.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 15:36 GMT
#76
Gotta say I've never seen someone have enough economy to survive as many bad fights as PartinG does when he plays vs TY's mech.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 15:38 GMT
#77
At least TY v PartinG is always fun
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-27 15:46:29
January 27 2020 15:43 GMT
#78
PartinG's economy was so untouched all game that he could offset 20 consecutive atrociously bad fights with 1 single good fight.

Maybe TY turtled too much and didn't do nearly enough counter attacking. Either way I'd be pissed as hell for losing that.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 15:50 GMT
#79
Having that much trouble securing the 4th really was a big problem for TY.

Did he show the resources lost near the end?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 15:53 GMT
#80
On January 28 2020 00:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Having that much trouble securing the 4th really was a big problem for TY.

Did he show the resources lost near the end?

It was still like 10k to 15k in TY's favor.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 15:59 GMT
#81
Is there like a John Sun version of PartinG? This is a whole lot of nonsense.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 16:02 GMT
#82
On January 28 2020 00:59 Elentos wrote:
Is there like a John Sun version of PartinG? This is a whole lot of nonsense.


It's a perfect strategy if you're up 3-4 bases
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 16:05 GMT
#83
I don't think anything in this match is normal but it sure is hilarious.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 16:07 GMT
#84
On January 28 2020 01:05 Elentos wrote:
I don't think anything in this match is normal but it sure is hilarious.


"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 16:10 GMT
#85
Finally an aggressive game from PartinG
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 16:10 GMT
#86
On January 28 2020 01:07 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 01:05 Elentos wrote:
I don't think anything in this match is normal but it sure is hilarious.


<are you not entertained meme>

Not after that game gotta be honest.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 16:12 GMT
#87
This is gonna be another one of those TY matches that should have been a 3-0 but is actually a loss somehow isn't it?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-27 16:13:43
January 27 2020 16:13 GMT
#88
On January 28 2020 01:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 01:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On January 28 2020 01:05 Elentos wrote:
I don't think anything in this match is normal but it sure is hilarious.



Not after that game gotta be honest.


I liked how it looked a bit like that Starcraft Masters arcade game for a while

On January 28 2020 01:12 Elentos wrote:
This is gonna be another one of those TY matches that should have been a 3-0 but is actually a loss somehow isn't it?


At least it's eternal empire
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 16:22 GMT
#89
TY getting lib range on a proxied fusion core... can you really do that? I could have sworn you need to build another one in your main first
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 27 2020 16:27 GMT
#90
Getting the EMP upgrade before your opponent leaves, is that even legal?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 16:27 GMT
#91
How do you forget emp range two games in a row?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-27 16:33:43
January 27 2020 16:31 GMT
#92
On January 28 2020 01:27 sneakyfox wrote:
How do you forget emp range two games in a row?

Probably out of pity because every EMP was a 10 out of 10 even without it.

Are the Ro12 matches mixed or are they fixed to be KR vs KR and EU vs EU?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 27 2020 16:34 GMT
#93
John Sun sure is getting a lot of playing time lately, but when TY takes control it looks pretty damn good.

Just wish they didn't trade places during games too.
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WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 27 2020 17:33 GMT
#94
On January 28 2020 01:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 01:27 sneakyfox wrote:
How do you forget emp range two games in a row?

Probably out of pity because every EMP was a 10 out of 10 even without it.

Are the Ro12 matches mixed or are they fixed to be KR vs KR and EU vs EU?


KR vs KR and EU vs EU in RO12, RO8 is mixed.
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WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
January 27 2020 20:21 GMT
#95
On January 27 2020 09:58 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2020 03:40 Elentos wrote:
Makes sense. So then the follow-up question is would a tie between the 3 first place players be resolved by bo1 tie breakers?


Yeah, if the seeding difference is the difference between prize money boundaries, BO1 tiebreaker. If the seeding difference is are you Seed #1 or Seed #2 into the RO8 (or in RO12) from your region, its just a coinflip


Slight correction to this, if it's tied map-score then our first tiebreaker rule will be map score in the final match you played (so in the Winners Match). If this is also equal, then a BO1 tiebreaker.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
January 28 2020 12:23 GMT
#96
Thank you for bringing us that much starcraft!

I wonder if Polt might have a shot against Reynor. On paper he doesn't, but Polt managed to beat Elazer at IEM qualifiers (I didn't see the series, how was it?) and decent zergs in various online cups, so maybe... but it's bo5 so probably not? Will be interesting for sure.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 28 2020 15:25 GMT
#97
On January 28 2020 21:23 Poopi wrote:
Thank you for bringing us that much starcraft!

I wonder if Polt might have a shot against Reynor. On paper he doesn't, but Polt managed to beat Elazer at IEM qualifiers (I didn't see the series, how was it?) and decent zergs in various online cups, so maybe... but it's bo5 so probably not? Will be interesting for sure.

Polt's biggest weakness in a longer series atm (aside from not having recovered his peak skill) would be the fact that he does the same build every TvZ - a BC opening into bio. Easily exploitable.
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ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
January 28 2020 17:05 GMT
#98
On January 28 2020 21:23 Poopi wrote:
Thank you for bringing us that much starcraft!

I wonder if Polt might have a shot against Reynor. On paper he doesn't, but Polt managed to beat Elazer at IEM qualifiers (I didn't see the series, how was it?) and decent zergs in various online cups, so maybe... but it's bo5 so probably not? Will be interesting for sure.


Polt played Elazer when it was 4 AM for him. He made a lot of mistakes. Anyhow Polt is by far the weakest player in this group and wouldnt expect to much from him. Especially as he plays from ping from NA and ALWAYS plays bio.. Maybe he can make something happen in the losers match which I doubt though
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
January 28 2020 20:42 GMT
#99
On January 29 2020 02:05 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 21:23 Poopi wrote:
Thank you for bringing us that much starcraft!

I wonder if Polt might have a shot against Reynor. On paper he doesn't, but Polt managed to beat Elazer at IEM qualifiers (I didn't see the series, how was it?) and decent zergs in various online cups, so maybe... but it's bo5 so probably not? Will be interesting for sure.


Polt played Elazer when it was 4 AM for him. He made a lot of mistakes. Anyhow Polt is by far the weakest player in this group and wouldnt expect to much from him. Especially as he plays from ping from NA and ALWAYS plays bio.. Maybe he can make something happen in the losers match which I doubt though

4am for Polt or for Elazer?
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 29 2020 01:27 GMT
#100
On January 29 2020 05:42 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2020 02:05 ilax30 wrote:
On January 28 2020 21:23 Poopi wrote:
Thank you for bringing us that much starcraft!

I wonder if Polt might have a shot against Reynor. On paper he doesn't, but Polt managed to beat Elazer at IEM qualifiers (I didn't see the series, how was it?) and decent zergs in various online cups, so maybe... but it's bo5 so probably not? Will be interesting for sure.


Polt played Elazer when it was 4 AM for him. He made a lot of mistakes. Anyhow Polt is by far the weakest player in this group and wouldnt expect to much from him. Especially as he plays from ping from NA and ALWAYS plays bio.. Maybe he can make something happen in the losers match which I doubt though

4am for Polt or for Elazer?


For Elazer, who was playing on NA from EU.

Polt went out 0-6, I'm not surprised.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 29 2020 14:27 GMT
#101
TvZ is so much more interesting when it's bio and not mech.

And it looks vastly different when the creep does not somehow cover must of the map. But the zerg still wins in the end.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 29 2020 14:28 GMT
#102
On January 29 2020 23:27 sneakyfox wrote:
TvZ is so much more interesting when it's bio and not mech.

And it looks vastly different when the creep does not somehow cover must of the map. But the zerg still wins in the end.


Doesn't this look like balance whining?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
January 29 2020 14:41 GMT
#103
I thought Cure would beat Ragnarok easily. Well it's not over yet. Hopefully INno and Cure make it out.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 29 2020 14:43 GMT
#104
Cure had such a good early game there, but still got smashed in the end. This game the creep was all over the place again.

Still I find it more entertaining than mech vs SH.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 29 2020 15:23 GMT
#105
With today's results I hope by the powers of rigging that maybe we can have 2 TvZs in the Ro12 instead of a ZvZ and a TvT.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 29 2020 15:25 GMT
#106
Cure didn't play well today, he got supply blocked once and lost tanks and marines to slow banelings…
Ragnagod was in great shape, instead.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3204 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-29 15:33:26
January 29 2020 15:33 GMT
#107
On January 30 2020 00:23 Elentos wrote:
With today's results I hope by the powers of rigging that maybe we can have 2 TvZs in the Ro12 instead of a ZvZ and a TvT.

you had it, not even rigging them

gratz for SilverCoin level 3 btw ;]
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 29 2020 15:47 GMT
#108
On January 30 2020 00:25 Xain0n wrote:
Cure didn't play well today, he got supply blocked once and lost tanks and marines to slow banelings…
Ragnagod was in great shape, instead.

Cure was also absolutely winning the first game against RagnaroK and then fell apart to 1 counter-attack unnecessarily. He's definitely had better days.
On January 30 2020 00:33 CynicalDeath wrote:
gratz for SilverCoin level 3 btw ;]

Thanks
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irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
January 29 2020 20:52 GMT
#109
Phew.

RagnaroK was one of two players that I'd say I pushed pretty hard to get as final invites, along with Dream (who replaced a protoss player on very short notice and competed reasonably well in group A, so thank you Dream). I'm a big fan of both, but also thought they were the strongest players still available. I would have felt pretty silly if they both had flopped. RagnaroK looked fantastic today, especially with his engagements even off of creep.

Also, that's probably the strongest I've seen someone make ultralisks look in a long, long time.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 29 2020 21:12 GMT
#110
On January 30 2020 05:52 irvnasty wrote:
Phew.

RagnaroK was one of two players that I'd say I pushed pretty hard to get as final invites, along with Dream (who replaced a protoss player on very short notice and competed reasonably well in group A, so thank you Dream). I'm a big fan of both, but also thought they were the strongest players still available. I would have felt pretty silly if they both had flopped. RagnaroK looked fantastic today, especially with his engagements even off of creep.

Also, that's probably the strongest I've seen someone make ultralisks look in a long, long time.

You guys did an amazing part with the invites. Dream had some impressive online results in the 2nd half of 2019 and Ragnarok realy exploded in GSL, good on you to invite them.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-30 07:37:13
January 30 2020 07:36 GMT
#111
I know you explained it somewhat already in this thread but I didn't quite get the theorycrafting.

In case of Trap and Clem, did you coinflip or do(did) they have to play a Bo1?

EDIT: or is LP just premature
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 30 2020 10:38 GMT
#112
On January 30 2020 16:36 Harris1st wrote:
I know you explained it somewhat already in this thread but I didn't quite get the theorycrafting.

In case of Trap and Clem, did you coinflip or do(did) they have to play a Bo1?

EDIT: or is LP just premature

Trap won a KR group, Clem EU. They are independent in terms of a Ro8 seed.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 30 2020 20:40 GMT
#113
Big Gabe is playing some fine Starcraft.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 30 2020 21:05 GMT
#114
On January 31 2020 05:40 Elentos wrote:
Big Gabe is playing some fine Starcraft.

Realizing she couldn't possibly match Gabe's big skill in a real game, Scarlett then cheesed him a lot and won anyway
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 30 2020 21:12 GMT
#115
Whats the thought process behind winning game 1 with mech and then going bio every game and losing multiple times?
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ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
January 30 2020 21:30 GMT
#116
Eh thats just how Scarlett plays, she is dangerous in a macro game but has about 100 cheeses she can do as well. Fun to watch for sure.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-30 21:34:00
January 30 2020 21:32 GMT
#117
On January 31 2020 06:12 Schelim wrote:
Whats the thought process behind winning game 1 with mech and then going bio every game and losing multiple times?

Wanted to mix it up in game 2 and got all-in'd, then had a shit early game in game 3 and 4 and figured mech was too slow to recover is my guess. Also probably depended on the maps. Eternal Empire is so much better for mech than every other map in the pool.
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3415 Posts
January 30 2020 23:09 GMT
#118
The last game between HeroMarine and Soul was pretty fun.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
January 31 2020 08:02 GMT
#119
On January 30 2020 19:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2020 16:36 Harris1st wrote:
I know you explained it somewhat already in this thread but I didn't quite get the theorycrafting.

In case of Trap and Clem, did you coinflip or do(did) they have to play a Bo1?

EDIT: or is LP just premature

Trap won a KR group, Clem EU. They are independent in terms of a Ro8 seed.


Well, now I feel stupid ^^'

This tournament really delivers. Really good job Wardi!
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
January 31 2020 12:09 GMT
#120
Building 5 BC's at the same time with 3/3 is every 2v2/3v3 players wet dream. Unfortunately doesn't work so good in a 1v1
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 31 2020 13:40 GMT
#121
Wardi's hard work and grind has really paid off.

i've always respected and appreciated him putting on and providing a cast for all the tiny weekly tournaments. but from that, not only has he made a big enough community and name for himself to get a sponsor for a tournament like this, and still casts so damn much that the Pylon Show essentially has an entire Wardi segment, but his commentary has gotten a LOT better too.

i don't mean to hate on past Wardi here, but to me he used to be rather meh, not hatable or anything but just like, background noise for the sc2 i'm watching. over the years he's worked himself up to being a quality and entertaining caster.

also, on that note, Zombiegrub, with a somewhat similar history, is a great commentator and i would like to see her get more gigs.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 31 2020 14:01 GMT
#122
I'm not sure what's the worse idea, playing Terran on World of Sleepers or playing bio vs Zerg on World of Sleepers.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 31 2020 14:07 GMT
#123
This has to be the worst early game I've ever seen.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 31 2020 14:28 GMT
#124
No actually this one was worse
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 31 2020 15:09 GMT
#125
TY's mech plays just seems more solid.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-31 15:21:10
January 31 2020 15:18 GMT
#126
On February 01 2020 00:09 Xain0n wrote:
TY's mech plays just seems more solid.

I think Solar is also worse against mech. In general I think against top Zergs you don't do yourself any favors playing bio on this map pool. And then if you add in some mistakes...

Both these guys should be able to do a bit better though. TY isn't supposed to lose World of Sleepers from his early game and he knows it. And Zen was just worst thing I ever saw until they played on Triton.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
January 31 2020 16:10 GMT
#127
On January 31 2020 22:40 Schelim wrote:
Wardi's hard work and grind has really paid off.

i've always respected and appreciated him putting on and providing a cast for all the tiny weekly tournaments. but from that, not only has he made a big enough community and name for himself to get a sponsor for a tournament like this, and still casts so damn much that the Pylon Show essentially has an entire Wardi segment, but his commentary has gotten a LOT better too.

i don't mean to hate on past Wardi here, but to me he used to be rather meh, not hatable or anything but just like, background noise for the sc2 i'm watching. over the years he's worked himself up to being a quality and entertaining caster.

also, on that note, Zombiegrub, with a somewhat similar history, is a great commentator and i would like to see her get more gigs.


I fully agree these two has put on so much work over the years, it would be nice to see them more at offline stuff. And although this is a bit of a controversial things, I would like to see Rifkin at least once in an offline event, say what you want about his casting he has deserved some time on a stage after all his done during the last decade.
Naruto too, by the way it's been to long since I've seen him outside of his room.
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TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 01 2020 11:10 GMT
#128
This is the live commentary thread for today (too) right? Working on that assumption I've linked to this on Reddit, in hopes we get some more folks over here as well.
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
February 01 2020 11:46 GMT
#129
On January 31 2020 22:40 Schelim wrote:
Wardi's hard work and grind has really paid off.

i've always respected and appreciated him putting on and providing a cast for all the tiny weekly tournaments. but from that, not only has he made a big enough community and name for himself to get a sponsor for a tournament like this, and still casts so damn much that the Pylon Show essentially has an entire Wardi segment, but his commentary has gotten a LOT better too.

i don't mean to hate on past Wardi here, but to me he used to be rather meh, not hatable or anything but just like, background noise for the sc2 i'm watching. over the years he's worked himself up to being a quality and entertaining caster.

also, on that note, Zombiegrub, with a somewhat similar history, is a great commentator and i would like to see her get more gigs.

I do not know. Personally his cast is subpar. Here is a good video that explain:

If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-01 11:52:46
February 01 2020 11:51 GMT
#130
On February 01 2020 20:46 MisterBoba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 22:40 Schelim wrote:
Wardi's hard work and grind has really paid off.

i've always respected and appreciated him putting on and providing a cast for all the tiny weekly tournaments. but from that, not only has he made a big enough community and name for himself to get a sponsor for a tournament like this, and still casts so damn much that the Pylon Show essentially has an entire Wardi segment, but his commentary has gotten a LOT better too.

i don't mean to hate on past Wardi here, but to me he used to be rather meh, not hatable or anything but just like, background noise for the sc2 i'm watching. over the years he's worked himself up to being a quality and entertaining caster.

also, on that note, Zombiegrub, with a somewhat similar history, is a great commentator and i would like to see her get more gigs.

I do not know. Personally his cast is subpar. Here is a good video that explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRD40UTZf0o

It's a 2 year old video that's poorly made focusing on a beyond cherry picked sample. What's that prove?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 01 2020 12:09 GMT
#131
What the fuck is Solar doing honestly? 3rd time he's brought queens across the map to take awful off-creep fights.
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
February 01 2020 12:10 GMT
#132
Feel like Solar is tunneling hard he also does no runbys because whatever.
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 01 2020 12:12 GMT
#133
Yeah, Solar screwed up, but Clem's looking sick too. That kid's going places.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
February 01 2020 12:27 GMT
#134
Dunno clem is playing good but solar is just letting him do whatever he wants and not doing anything against clem just expanding everywhere.
Dark Warmer
Profile Joined February 2020
Canada1 Post
February 01 2020 12:52 GMT
#135
--- Nuked ---
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
February 01 2020 13:01 GMT
#136
The old fox still has his tricks
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 01 2020 13:02 GMT
#137
Nothing like a good ol' solar roach ravager play
Year of MaxPax
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 01 2020 13:04 GMT
#138
What server is this played on today?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 01 2020 13:06 GMT
#139
On February 01 2020 22:04 TheGoatPuncher wrote:
What server is this played on today?

You'd assume NA for the sake of fairness.
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Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
February 01 2020 13:19 GMT
#140
Raynor not having his best day? xD Morphing lurkers on the front line...
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 01 2020 13:23 GMT
#141
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.
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Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
February 01 2020 13:27 GMT
#142
On February 01 2020 22:23 Elentos wrote:
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.


Maybe he wanted to gauge Cures power? Raynor played terribly (compared to his usual level) in the beginning but the fact that Cure couldn't finish him off until 19 minutes should give him some information!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 01 2020 13:27 GMT
#143
On February 01 2020 22:23 Elentos wrote:
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.


Well, if you can't beat Dark and Serral, the least you can do is play for the memes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-01 13:30:30
February 01 2020 13:28 GMT
#144
On February 01 2020 22:27 Noa Greenini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 22:23 Elentos wrote:
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.


Maybe he wanted to gauge Cures power? Raynor played terribly (compared to his usual level) in the beginning but the fact that Cure couldn't finish him off until 19 minutes should give him some information!

Reynor does it in every game he loses even if it's against Serral where he learns nothing by doing it.

All I really want from this tournament is to not have a ZvZ final so go Cure.
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Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
February 01 2020 13:30 GMT
#145
On February 01 2020 22:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 22:27 Noa Greenini wrote:
On February 01 2020 22:23 Elentos wrote:
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.


Maybe he wanted to gauge Cures power? Raynor played terribly (compared to his usual level) in the beginning but the fact that Cure couldn't finish him off until 19 minutes should give him some information!

Reynor does it in every game he loses even if it's against Serral where he learns nothing by doing it.


It could be argued that no one can get inside Serrals head like Raynor can though xD
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-01 13:42:50
February 01 2020 13:40 GMT
#146
On February 01 2020 22:30 Noa Greenini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 22:28 Elentos wrote:
On February 01 2020 22:27 Noa Greenini wrote:
On February 01 2020 22:23 Elentos wrote:
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.


Maybe he wanted to gauge Cures power? Raynor played terribly (compared to his usual level) in the beginning but the fact that Cure couldn't finish him off until 19 minutes should give him some information!

Reynor does it in every game he loses even if it's against Serral where he learns nothing by doing it.


It could be argued that no one can get inside Serrals head like Raynor can though xD

It could also be argued that his ID is not Raynor.

Well this is a sad loss, double the workers but run out of steam before Cure runs out of marines.
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Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
February 01 2020 13:43 GMT
#147
On February 01 2020 22:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 22:30 Noa Greenini wrote:
On February 01 2020 22:28 Elentos wrote:
On February 01 2020 22:27 Noa Greenini wrote:
On February 01 2020 22:23 Elentos wrote:
It feels like ever since Fantasy retired everyone has decided to stay in games way longer than they should in his stead.


Maybe he wanted to gauge Cures power? Raynor played terribly (compared to his usual level) in the beginning but the fact that Cure couldn't finish him off until 19 minutes should give him some information!

Reynor does it in every game he loses even if it's against Serral where he learns nothing by doing it.


It could be argued that no one can get inside Serrals head like Raynor can though xD

It could also be argued that his ID is not Raynor.

Well this is a sad loss, double the workers but run out of steam before Cure runs out of marines.


TBH, that would be an indisputable fact so I don't agree that anything else could be argued. It could be argued that it's not sad though...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-01 14:01:20
February 01 2020 13:54 GMT
#148
You gotta give Cure credit for always having units home to defend runbys.

Still lost the game to the runbys, but he had stuff in place.
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TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 01 2020 14:21 GMT
#149
Man, Cure just can't move out can't he? He hasn't been able to get to Reynor's side of the map for ages now.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 01 2020 14:24 GMT
#150
On February 01 2020 23:21 TheGoatPuncher wrote:
Man, Cure just can't move out can't he? He hasn't been able to get to Reynor's side of the map for ages now.

As long as Reynor spent all his money on super inefficiently fighting on Cure's side of the map that wasn't really a problem. Now Reynor won a big fight and is teching though so it could become one.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 01 2020 14:28 GMT
#151
It's weird how LotV flipped bio-mine vs LBM into being Zerg attacking all game and Terran hoping they run out of steam. Used to be the other way around.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 01 2020 14:30 GMT
#152
22,5k difference in resources lost says it all.
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3415 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-01 14:31:46
February 01 2020 14:31 GMT
#153
I'm so glad Cure won the last game.

Raynor just kept bashing him with inferior compositions all game long, refusing to switch despite having the economical advantage for most of the game. If he had won this despite Cure not making any glaring mistakes and being more cost efficient all game long I'd scream imba
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-01 14:32:51
February 01 2020 14:32 GMT
#154
On February 01 2020 23:28 Elentos wrote:
It's weird how LotV flipped bio-mine vs LBM into being Zerg attacking all game and Terran hoping they run out of steam. Used to be the other way around.


Yeah, it's odd.

Seemed to work for Cure though, which I guess is down to Reynor's inefficiency, which you mentioned in the other comment. He stuck on ling bling muta for waaaay too long. Should've focused more on just posturing about and transitioning to broods or something like that. The amount of gas Reynor threw into all those banes was absurd.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
February 01 2020 14:33 GMT
#155
IDK what Reynor was thinking there, he had so much room to tech up. It looked like he just wanted bury Cure on pure mechanics for no reason.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 01 2020 14:33 GMT
#156
Not the most brilliant play I have seen from Reynor, a deserved victory for Cure!
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 01 2020 14:35 GMT
#157
On February 01 2020 23:33 Nakajin wrote:
IDK what Reynor was thinking there, he had so much room to tech up. It looked like he just wanted bury Cure on pure mechanics for no reason.


Yeah, Raynor basically threw that one hard. Somewhere Serral is shaking his head and tut-tutting.
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
552 Posts
February 01 2020 16:09 GMT
#158
On February 01 2020 20:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 20:46 MisterBoba wrote:
On January 31 2020 22:40 Schelim wrote:
Wardi's hard work and grind has really paid off.

i've always respected and appreciated him putting on and providing a cast for all the tiny weekly tournaments. but from that, not only has he made a big enough community and name for himself to get a sponsor for a tournament like this, and still casts so damn much that the Pylon Show essentially has an entire Wardi segment, but his commentary has gotten a LOT better too.

i don't mean to hate on past Wardi here, but to me he used to be rather meh, not hatable or anything but just like, background noise for the sc2 i'm watching. over the years he's worked himself up to being a quality and entertaining caster.

also, on that note, Zombiegrub, with a somewhat similar history, is a great commentator and i would like to see her get more gigs.

I do not know. Personally his cast is subpar. Here is a good video that explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRD40UTZf0o

It's a 2 year old video that's poorly made focusing on a beyond cherry picked sample. What's that prove?


My favorite part of this video is the "I don't have a whole lot of time to actually find an example to prove my point, but here's me skipping through randomly saying a lot of dumb shit that isn't true". It was pretty great, dude turned out to be an idiot.

Anyways I agree, my casting in 2018 sucked compared to my casting in 2020
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 02 2020 11:22 GMT
#159
I just love it when players swap color in mirror matches after every game. Truly a test of attention.
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TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-02 12:10:30
February 02 2020 12:01 GMT
#160
I'm expecting one or the other trying to cheese this out in game 5. Having typed that, now it will of course go into a long macro game.

Edit: Called it, for once :D
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 02 2020 12:13 GMT
#161
Ragnagod gogogogogo
Year of MaxPax
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 02 2020 12:33 GMT
#162
That decision making tho, Cure pretty much did all the right moves to make a comeback. Well deserved win.

A fun game for a first game in a series too.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 02 2020 13:36 GMT
#163
Hot damn what a game.
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TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 02 2020 13:37 GMT
#164
Man, this series has been great! I'll be bummed when this one ends.
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 02 2020 13:38 GMT
#165
On February 02 2020 22:36 Elentos wrote:
Hot damn what a game.


I know, right? This whole series has been a real showcase of this MU at it's best. Insanely entertaining games.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 02 2020 13:51 GMT
#166
Showtime and Cure put on quite a show! RNK vs Cure should be an excellent finals
Year of MaxPax
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 02 2020 13:55 GMT
#167
On February 02 2020 22:51 sudete wrote:
Showtime and Cure put on quite a show! RNK vs Cure should be an excellent finals


Yeah, that was a hell of a series and was always going to be a well deserved win either way.

The finals series is going to be wild, it can't begin soon enough!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10042 Posts
February 02 2020 15:01 GMT
#168
cool finals so far. lets go Ragnagod!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-02 15:06:47
February 02 2020 15:06 GMT
#169
Cure about to get 0-7 vs Zerg today
Games are cool at least
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
February 02 2020 15:09 GMT
#170
This last game was pretty much exactly what happened in the last game against Solar in ESL open too. Greedy no scout, gets all-in'd and has no units.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 02 2020 15:09 GMT
#171
Congrats ragnagod :D
Year of MaxPax
kallagen
Profile Joined November 2016
Russian Federation13 Posts
February 02 2020 15:10 GMT
#172
I dissapointed.
TheGoatPuncher
Profile Joined August 2019
76 Posts
February 02 2020 15:13 GMT
#173
GG. Some good stuff from Cure but RagnaroK was way too strong today.

It was an excellent tournament, all of the props to Wardi and Irvnasty for having constructed this thing.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
February 02 2020 15:17 GMT
#174
RagnaGOD
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Avaroth
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Finland44 Posts
February 02 2020 15:26 GMT
#175
Props to RagnaroK for taking it! And big thanks to Wardi and Irvnasty for making this happen - the tournament was excellent from start to finish!
My garden is well. How is yours?
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 02 2020 20:16 GMT
#176
What! Missed the finals and to now see the results, suprising to me! Was a great tournament, thanks for the entertainment!
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
709 Posts
February 02 2020 20:46 GMT
#177
great performance from ragnagod, also happy that showtime had a strong run, the games vs cure were very nice
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texture13
Profile Joined July 2018
44 Posts
February 03 2020 04:05 GMT
#178
Glad to see RagnaroK get a good result here.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
February 06 2020 10:00 GMT
#179
On February 02 2020 01:09 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2020 20:51 Elentos wrote:
On February 01 2020 20:46 MisterBoba wrote:
On January 31 2020 22:40 Schelim wrote:
Wardi's hard work and grind has really paid off.

i've always respected and appreciated him putting on and providing a cast for all the tiny weekly tournaments. but from that, not only has he made a big enough community and name for himself to get a sponsor for a tournament like this, and still casts so damn much that the Pylon Show essentially has an entire Wardi segment, but his commentary has gotten a LOT better too.

i don't mean to hate on past Wardi here, but to me he used to be rather meh, not hatable or anything but just like, background noise for the sc2 i'm watching. over the years he's worked himself up to being a quality and entertaining caster.

also, on that note, Zombiegrub, with a somewhat similar history, is a great commentator and i would like to see her get more gigs.

I do not know. Personally his cast is subpar. Here is a good video that explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRD40UTZf0o

It's a 2 year old video that's poorly made focusing on a beyond cherry picked sample. What's that prove?


My favorite part of this video is the "I don't have a whole lot of time to actually find an example to prove my point, but here's me skipping through randomly saying a lot of dumb shit that isn't true". It was pretty great, dude turned out to be an idiot.

Anyways I agree, my casting in 2018 sucked compared to my casting in 2020


Your casting has definitely improved but let's not act like your 2018 casting was bad or even sub par by any means.

In any case, that's for hosting all these tourneys. I got my fix of sc2 in especially with some tournaments being postponed due to coronavirus.
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