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Super Tournament 1
2019 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 2Streams & Casters
Format
- Single-elimination bracket.
- Round of 16: Bo5.
- Quarterfinals: Bo5.
- Semifinals: Bo5.
- Finals: Bo7.
Map Pool
Day Three
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[GSL 2019] Super Tournament 2 - Day 3
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Poll: Stats vs Dark Dark Wins (21) Stats Wins (17) 38 total votes Your vote: Stats vs Dark Poll: soO vs GuMiho GuMiho Wins (20) soO Wins (16) 36 total votes Your vote: soO vs GuMiho Poll: PartinG vs TY TY Wins (22) PartinG Wins (16) 38 total votes Your vote: PartinG vs TY | ||
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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JJH777
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Cricketer12
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fgonzo
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 15:02 fgonzo wrote: Stats is gonna kill Dark. He killed Rogue. He killed Serral. He's definitely going to kill Dark. Dark plays very very different to ether of those 2. | ||
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Zambrah
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XDEKSDEEXD
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
But my predictions were terrible for Round 1, so don t listen to me | ||
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Schelim
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HolydaKing
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Hoping for Stats, Gumiho, Parting and herO despite hating PvP, lol. | ||
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Elentos
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Penev
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sudete
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Elentos
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blooblooblahblah
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Waxangel
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HolydaKing
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Die4Ever
United States17683 Posts
On October 05 2019 15:02 fgonzo wrote: Stats is gonna kill Dark. He killed Rogue. He killed Serral. He's definitely going to kill Dark. lol | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:19 HolydaKing wrote: What the fuck is Stats doing. something. it aint working but hes doing something | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:20 MoDiV wrote: something. it aint working but hes doing something He is saving TYTY.  | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Dark has a condo in that guy's head. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:20 MoDiV wrote: something. it aint working but hes doing something It's barely something. Stats is playing really bad. Same as last Super Tournament where he played an amazing series against Maru and a really shit series against GuMiho right after. | ||
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Ej_
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:19 HolydaKing wrote: What the fuck is Stats doing. His build wasn't even that bad but he didn't get the scout on the bane nest. Also, if you know your opponent will defend like that, you probably wouldn't open 2 gate and would go quicker robo. What Dark did is definitely beatable but Stats just didn't have the right information which is always an issue with this cannon rush, you have to gamble a bit. | ||
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Quasarrion
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 17:23 Quasarrion wrote: Man if only Dark didnt suck at ZvZ he would be the best He's probably the 3rd best ZvZ player in the world, let's not call that sucking  | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:22 blooblooblahblah wrote: His build wasn't even that bad but he didn't get the scout on the bane nest. Also, if you know your opponent will defend like that, you probably wouldn't open 2 gate and would go quicker robo. What Dark did is definitely beatable but Stats just didn't have the right information which is always an issue with this cannon rush, you have to gamble a bit. He saw Dark was making 5 spines and after that he added another gate and more cannons and batteries and kept running units up the ramp. I'm pretty sure after the 5 spines were done Stats should have changed his game plan. | ||
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Elentos
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I don't see how. | ||
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Ej_
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Ej_
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:24 Elentos wrote: He saw Dark was making 5 spines and after that he added another gate and more cannons and batteries and kept running units up the ramp. I'm pretty sure after the 5 spines were done Stats should have changed his game plan. The problem is if they go mass spine you have to add all those cannons cos it's gg if you lose the high ground. It made some sense to do what he did cos normally that leads to a spine all in where they just yolo, so i didn't mind the zealot and the second gate. He didn't recognise that Dark wasn't going for that and he didn't scout any tech buildings so it was honestly a weird game but Dark's defence was very strange and kinda suboptimal which might have confused him. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
What are the conditions for TY to qualify for Blizzcon ? Stats must lose no ? | ||
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Penev
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sneakyfox
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 17:27 DieuCure wrote: What are the conditions for TY to qualify for Blizzcon ? Stats must lose no ? No. It's TY gets minimum Ro4, Gumiho doesn't win and Classic can't go. Nothing else. | ||
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Ej_
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 17:27 DieuCure wrote: What are the conditions for TY to qualify for Blizzcon ? Stats must lose no ? No that was an error in the article. Classic cannot go and TY beats PartinG, and then either goes to the ST finals or beats Dear in a tie-match. | ||
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Penev
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sneakyfox
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:23 Ej_ wrote: He's probably the 3rd best ZvZ player in the world, let's not call that sucking there are like 10 foreigners who are better at ZvZ due to foreigners being superior at ZvZ /s | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:23 Ej_ wrote: He's probably the 3rd best ZvZ player in the world, let's not call that sucking Hmm is he really better than Reynor and Solar? I dunno | ||
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HolydaKing
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On October 05 2019 17:33 sneakyfox wrote: Hmm is he really better than Reynor and Solar? I dunno He isn't even better than Elazer.  | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:23 Ej_ wrote: He's probably the 3rd best ZvZ player in the world, let's not call that sucking 4th best ZvZ, after Serral, Rogue and Elazer | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:35 AzAlexZ wrote: 4th best ZvZ, after Serral, Rogue and Elazer i hear this Reynor kid is kinda decent | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 17:33 sneakyfox wrote: Hmm is he really better than Reynor and Solar? I dunno Solar doesn't belong in a conversation about best ZvZ honestly. Also Reynor's ZvZ is kinda gimmicky which is probably why he flip-flops between beating Serral and getting destroyed by him. | ||
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Penev
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
I actually have never seen Reynor play Dark, so I don't know who's better in that regard | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 17:37 Penev wrote: It's sad to see soO isn't mentioned in best ZvZ player lists anymore Maybe if he starts practicing going into Blizzcon we can take him seriously again. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17683 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:39 Elentos wrote: Maybe if he starts practicing going into Blizzcon we can take him seriously again. Special says soO is gonna win Blizzcon (The Pylon Show) but nobody can figure out why he thinks that... | ||
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 17:37 Elentos wrote: Solar doesn't belong in a conversation about best ZvZ honestly. Also Reynor's ZvZ is kinda gimmicky which is probably why he flip-flops between beating Serral and getting destroyed by him. Well Reynor is also just young. It may be about gimmicks but it's also just a fluctuating level of play. I would say that is quite common for the inexperienced player with a lot of raw talent. He's probably going to be a lot better in a year or two (if there is still sc2). | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:37 Elentos wrote: Solar doesn't belong in a conversation about best ZvZ honestly. Also Reynor's ZvZ is kinda gimmicky which is probably why he flip-flops between beating Serral and getting destroyed by him. Reynor's ZvZ is gimmicky vs Serral but these days he plays fairly standard vs other zergs and his ZvZ win rate is extremely good. I'd have no issue putting Reynor's ZvZ above Dark. Honestly, I think Dark's ZvZ is really really bad, but he's just such a good player and in form that it equates to kinda decent ZvZ. I really hate all his builds in that matchup and his late game control is not there at all. The thing is Solar and Ragnarok hate ZvZ too so Dark's ZvZ is still kinda up there in the Korean scene i guess. | ||
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Penev
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On October 05 2019 17:39 Elentos wrote: Maybe if he starts practicing going into Blizzcon we can take him seriously again. would be nice, I'm ready for another 2nd place | ||
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 17:40 Die4Ever wrote: Special says soO is gonna win Blizzcon (The Pylon Show) but nobody can figure out why he thinks that... That seems to be a thing with Special's statements | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 17:40 Die4Ever wrote: Special says soO is gonna win Blizzcon (The Pylon Show) but nobody can figure out why he thinks that... He also said Ragnarok will 3-0 TY. I'm gonna be careful trusting him. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:29 sneakyfox wrote: No that was an error in the article. Classic cannot go and TY beats PartinG, and then either goes to the ST finals or beats Dear in a tie-match. On October 05 2019 17:28 Elentos wrote: No. It's TY gets minimum Ro4, Gumiho doesn't win and Classic can't go. Nothing else. Oh, ok, thanks ! | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 17:41 blooblooblahblah wrote: Reynor's ZvZ is gimmicky vs Serral but these days he plays fairly standard vs other zergs and his ZvZ win rate is extremely good. I'd have no issue putting Reynor's ZvZ above Dark. Honestly, I think Dark's ZvZ is really really bad, but he's just such a good player and in form that it equates to kinda decent ZvZ. I really hate all his builds in that matchup and his late game control is not there at all. The thing is Solar and Ragnarok hate ZvZ too so Dark's ZvZ is still kinda up there in the Korean scene i guess. You know, this is kinda true for all of Dark's matchups lol Fuck optimization, let me build 4 hatcheries at once | ||
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Quasarrion
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Noa Greenini
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HolydaKing
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Charoisaur
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sneakyfox
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- Dark | ||
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Elentos
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ST2: Stats takes down reigning GSL champ Rogue in a great match. Then gets destroyed by Dark in the very next round while playing much worse. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33457 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:46 Waxangel wrote: GuMiho vs soO has potential to be the ugliest yet most entertaining brawl we've had all year I hope that's gonna be the case for Parting vs TY. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:42 Ej_ wrote: You know, this is kinda true for all of Dark's matchups lol Fuck optimization, let me build 4 hatcheries at once Lol yes i also feel that about his ZvP too. Dark is just a very good RTS player but never a great build order smith, and in ZvZ that's a bit more important | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 17:46 Waxangel wrote: GuMiho vs soO has potential to be the ugliest yet most entertaining brawl we've had all year Or just a 3-0 at the hands of +1 hellbats | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:45 Elentos wrote: ST1: Stats takes down reigning GSL champ Maru in a great match. Then gets destroyed by GuMiho in the very next round while playing much worse. ST2: Stats takes down reigning GSL champ Rogue in a great match. Then gets destroyed by Dark in the very next round while playing much worse. yeah same thing happened in GSl vs the World. Went from looking like top 2 player to 20th best player. | ||
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Elentos
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Quasarrion
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Lol yes i also feel that about his ZvP too. Dark is just a very good RTS player but never a great build order smith, and in ZvZ that's a bit more important Maybe not masterfully optimazed , but Dark uses every unit and plays early, mid and lategame style mixed. His repertoire is endless and it makes him very unpredictable and dangerous. (well nowdays he doesnt use BL/ Infestor maybe on porpuse?) I just love it that he gets the hardest road possible and easily crushes the best terran and protoss in the world. | ||
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Durnuu
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On October 05 2019 17:51 Elentos wrote: You know what I'm just gonna claim NationWars is at fault for making Stats stay up until 4 am to play Croatia Aeromi is to blame AS USUAL | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:51 Elentos wrote: You know what I'm just gonna claim NationWars is at fault for making Stats stay up until 4 am to play Croatia Wth, that is some extremely bad scheduling. Korea could easily have played next week. | ||
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:53 Xain0n wrote: If Classic goes to BlizzCon we officially have that sweet Serral-Stats-Maru-TIME group now. and a bo5. this will be a fun group if classic goes | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 17:53 sneakyfox wrote: Wth, that is some extremely bad scheduling. Korea could easily have played next week. If the format was still pure all-kill Korea could have sent out Inno and Stats and soO could have gone to bed but they changed that too | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On October 05 2019 17:35 AzAlexZ wrote: 4th best ZvZ, after Serral, Rogue and Elazer He went 3-3 vs Elazer, if you count the team games as well. But I d still say, he s 4th in ZvZ: 1st Serral 2nd Rogue 3rd Reynor 4th Dark 5th Elazer 6th Soo 7th Solar 8th Lambo | ||
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HolydaKing
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On October 05 2019 17:51 Elentos wrote: You know what I'm just gonna claim NationWars is at fault for making Stats stay up until 4 am to play Croatia Couldn't they have swapped in Fantasy who is on their bench? Idk about NW rules. | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:01 Charoisaur wrote: Artosis foolishly thinking Zerg is strong enough in lategame to let soO win I think the biggest mistake is thinking that soO can beat a Terran. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
This is perhaps Guminho's last offline match before he goes to military for good. | ||
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Austria11528 Posts
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:01 HolydaKing wrote: Couldn't they have swapped in Fantasy who is on their bench? Idk about NW rules. It affects soO too and they don't have 2 guys on the bench. They should have played a different day. | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:02 Schelim wrote: suspicious amount of talking. what's the technical issue? herO spotted in the studio | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:02 blooblooblahblah wrote: When is the last time soO played a good match Katowice finals | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On October 05 2019 18:02 swarminfestor wrote: Tired Soo vs Ambitious Guminho. This is perhaps Guminho's last offline match before he goes to military for good. why should he forfeit the semis? | ||
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Elentos
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Also soO: still does the build 3 years later | ||
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Ej_
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Artosis: Zergs are the most hyperbolic ones | ||
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Penev
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On October 05 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote: Terran players: wow these maps are UNPLAYABLE Artosis: Zergs are the most hyperbolic ones it's funny to hear Artosis call anyone hyperbolic | ||
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 17:51 Elentos wrote: You know what I'm just gonna claim NationWars is at fault for making Stats stay up until 4 am to play Croatia my boiii stats bombing out after defeating the 1st seed for the champ as usual :000 and dem fans telling me dude aint destroying anything | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:10 blooblooblahblah wrote: If shitty ravager can't even beat gassless except with no scv scout and not even force it up the ramp, then what does it beat CC first and everything that doesn't have a bunker in time. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On October 05 2019 18:10 blooblooblahblah wrote: If shitty ravager can't even beat gassless expand with no scv scout and not even force it up the ramp, then what does it beat tbf Gumiho had blind bunker which basically counters ths build. Against no scout Reaper expand it can work if the terran spots it too late and loses his Reaper. and ofc against CC first | ||
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Ej_
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Then he did it vs GuMiho in the GSL finals and lost. | ||
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 18:12 Ej_ wrote: Fun fact, soO promised to his fans to never do this build again once. Then he did it vs GuMiho in the GSL finals and lost. he can win easily by doing that against mary | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:15 seemsgood wrote: he can win easily by doing that against mary Maru only does reaper FE and 2rax. Both of those beat 12pool ravager. | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:16 Ej_ wrote: Maru only does reaper FE and 2rax. Both of those beat 12pool ravager. Maru also SCV scouts most games. | ||
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 18:17 Elentos wrote: If you're not gonna get overlord speed you better know the spore timing for cloak banshee. Not really relevant, I'm pretty sure what you're suggesting involves some sort of practice | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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On October 05 2019 18:16 Ej_ wrote: Maru only does reaper FE and 2rax. Both of those beat 12pool ravager. Does 2 rax actually beat 12 pool ravager? | ||
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Durnuu
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On October 05 2019 18:20 Ej_ wrote: Were blue flame upgrade 50/50 cheaper, GuMiho would've won this game already. Imagine if Stats could research Flux Vanes in the last match | ||
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 18:16 Ej_ wrote: Maru only does reaper FE and 2rax. Both of those beat 12pool ravager. this is the shittiest zerg build i ve ever seen,may be he could use it when having a showmatch vs bomber | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
and still lost to Dark's 2 base version of the build (which is slightly better but still shitty) | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:21 blooblooblahblah wrote: Does 2 rax actually beat 12 pool ravager? I don't remeberr any pro game where that interaction happened, but I'm pretty sure you can just slow the ravagers down with marines and go 1 base cyclone banshee | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:22 Charoisaur wrote: and still lost to Dark's 2 base version of the build (which is slightly better but still shitty) The 2 base version is actually awesome. | ||
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Elentos
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:23 Elentos wrote: Props to soO for hiding his rush to broods for long enough. Making brood lords is a useful talent toi have. | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:23 Ej_ wrote: I don't remeberr any pro game where that interaction happened, but I'm pretty sure you can just slow the ravagers down with marines and go 1 base cyclone banshee There was a game in some online cup with TY proxy 2-raxing and the Zerg going for shitty ravagers and TY just defended with cyclones. Although I think he got the upgrade which now takes way longer to finish. E: | ||
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Durnuu
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:30 Durnuu wrote: F R E S H That feel when Artosis reveals himself to be a member of Kool & The Gang. | ||
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AzAlexZ
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DieuCure
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Noonius
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sneakyfox
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Noa Greenini
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On October 05 2019 18:31 Noa Greenini wrote: Wasnt Gumi ahead a lot in workers? I want to see them resume from replay and see if he could mass even more before attacking and get stim | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:35 Ej_ wrote: It's the small peepee cc rax fact cc instead of the Big cc rax cc GUMIHO I APOLOGIZE YOU ARE GENIUS | ||
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mechzdeus
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stilt
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 18:37 Charoisaur wrote: greediest build in the game defends a committed Roach allin... Not true, cc before fact would have lost | ||
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NotSoHappy
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NoS-Craig
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:37 Charoisaur wrote: greediest build in the game defends a committed Roach allin... Greediest build in the game wouldn't have made a banshee. | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On October 05 2019 18:33 Schelim wrote: Gumigod come baaaaack goat | ||
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fastr
France902 Posts
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:39 fastr wrote: I like both players but this is a terrible series, one cheese per series I can understand, but every game? Maybe soO wants to leave this tournament and be able to say "At least I won the only macro game so morally I'm the better player" | ||
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Noonius
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Charoisaur
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On October 05 2019 18:49 Noonius wrote: now imagine if this game went on a bit more and soO made infestors soO doesn't know what an Infestor is | ||
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swarminfestor
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seemsgood
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 18:51 Elentos wrote: soO won the only macro games and dude just wants to have some funs in this tournament :0 | ||
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Noonius
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LittlePox
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:54 Noonius wrote: didn't gyuri get married? where is her wedding ring? Wedding is on the 20th apparently. | ||
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LittlePox
23 Posts
That's why I love to watch his games, he can be losing ugly, but never boringly. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Yet another example of superior Korean scheduling | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
Parting has to win it all to overtake Dear. Must be horrible for Dear to have to watch this.. So much on the line for him | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
so, what you're saying is that there is still a chance | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:57 ChaosArcher wrote: So if TY makes the semis and loses there he is tied with Dear at 3725! Parting has to win it all to overtake Dear. Must be horrible for Dear to have to watch this.. So much on the line for him Could also be nothing on the line if Classic announces he can go to Blizzcon. But we just don't know anything. | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
On October 05 2019 18:54 LittlePox wrote: Gumiho really loves banshee. That's why he defended the roach all ins, and that's also why he loses to mutas. I really do not get how Gumihos style is supposed to work in the current meta. Hes not pushing decisively before Broods and once they are out, he just auto loses. How is he supposed to win? Killing some drones with banshees and taking some bases sounds nice, but thats not gonna cut it. | ||
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 18:58 Noonius wrote: so, what you're saying that there is still a chance NEIN! | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 18:58 Noonius wrote: so, what you're saying is that there is still a chance Not for you | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
On October 05 2019 18:59 Elentos wrote: Could also be nothing on the line if Classic announces he can go to Blizzcon. But we just don't know anything. True. I hope they announce it as soon as the final standings are locked though. The players need to know their groups to start preparing and the whole 'will he go or not?' thing is taking too long already. | ||
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 18:57 Xain0n wrote: Well, soO has to outkong Dark! He can't let Dark reach the finals. but in 2019 protoss is da kong tho | ||
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LittlePox
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On October 05 2019 18:58 Schelim wrote: did not expect soO to go to round of 4 of.. well, anything really There was a time you'd be shocked that soO was eliminated before finals. | ||
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seemsgood
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NoS-Craig
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 19:09 blooblooblahblah wrote: TY stealing my build that I also stole from Special so maybe it was TY's build all along It's a build TY first did I'm gonna say mid 2018. | ||
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Ej_
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On October 05 2019 19:10 Elentos wrote: It's a build TY first did I'm gonna say mid 2018. I was doing proxy 2rax marauder way before that! | ||
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Elentos
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On October 05 2019 19:11 Ej_ wrote: I was doing proxy 2rax marauder way before that! You didn't do 1 rax proxied with marines rallied from home though. | ||
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 19:11 Ej_ wrote: I was doing proxy 2rax marauder way before that! but did you win against sexy boii tho ? | ||
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AzAlexZ
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On October 05 2019 19:34 Durnuu wrote: This might be the worst handling of mech I've ever seen, in PvT in particular but he still wins | ||
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Noa Greenini
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Elentos
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He meant from PartinG. | ||
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On October 05 2019 19:46 Penev wrote: pls no reverse sweep shhhh | ||
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On October 05 2019 19:56 darklycid wrote: Terrain Proxy > protoss proxy so why did mary lose to sOs tastelessssssssssssssss ???? | ||
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darklycid
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On October 05 2019 19:57 seemsgood wrote: so why did mary lost to sOs tastelessssssssssssssss ???? Maru obv Bad at proxying | ||
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Elentos
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Casters are the master race. | ||
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Zambrah
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 19:53 Charoisaur wrote: and this is the Protoss version of the shitty ravager rush still.... 2 immortals inside a warp prism is pretty gruesome tho | ||
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 19:57 Elentos wrote: This is the first time TY has ever beaten PartinG in an offline match. Casters are the master race. They are also the best at giving their caster colleagues some good material to work with | ||
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On October 05 2019 20:12 sneakyfox wrote: Now for herO to take this to make me 0/4 in bets for the day Same. But Stats and Classic are the only players I bet on who I wanted to win so it's alright | ||
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seemsgood
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On October 05 2019 20:12 sneakyfox wrote: Now for herO to take this to make me 0/4 in bets for the day splyce flair ??? betting on big boii instead of da caster ????? easily top 20 anime betrayal fam | ||
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sneakyfox
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On October 05 2019 20:14 Elentos wrote: Same. But Stats and Classic are the only players I bet on who I wanted to win so it's alright Yeah, same for me. My betting strategy is usually to bet on the play I hope loses because Starcraft rarely goes the way I hope. Code S S3 was really good for my liquibets On October 05 2019 20:17 seemsgood wrote: splyce flair ??? betting on big boii instead of da caster ????? easily top 20 anime betrayal fam Oh no you misunderstand. It's an anti-jinx thing. TY is the greatest. | ||
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On October 05 2019 20:33 Ej_ wrote: And now this game goes for 5 more minutes. dude is goat at taking bad trade | ||
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Durnuu
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On October 05 2019 20:47 JoeCool wrote: Seeing a phoenix lift an adept, what happens if a lifted adept uses it's shade ability. Is it possible to teleport out of the phoenix beam? Yes | ||
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This is truly the supreme troll. | ||
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On October 05 2019 21:02 digmouse wrote: Potentially the final televised match from Classic. And potentially not! He's not gonna tell us. | ||
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On October 05 2019 21:05 swarminfestor wrote: So, both Guminho & Classic may go to military and the ranking remains unless TY win the whole tournament. It goes: A) Classic can play Blizzcon --> top 8 stays the same B) Classic can't play Blizzcon, herO beats TY --> Dear and TY play a tiebreaker for the 8th seed for Korea C) Classic can't play Blizzcon, TY beats herO --> TY takes the 8th seed for Korea | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On October 05 2019 21:00 Elentos wrote: No interview from Classic to tell us about his Blizzcon fate. This is truly the supreme troll. I assume if he'd know, we'd know as well, even without an interview. He probably communicates with the other players | ||
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swarminfestor
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On October 05 2019 22:49 lolfail9001 wrote: Any good series today? TY vs Parting, Game 2 Hero vs Classic, Game 3 probably | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On October 05 2019 23:25 swarminfestor wrote: TY vs Parting, Game 2 Hero vs Classic, Game 3 probably I’m still not sure if that was actually a good game, I did enjoy it but I’m really not sure what the hell Parting was doing. Continuous gateway aggression off a bunch of bases, can see what he was thinking but he didn’t even upgrade his units particularly quickly, nor did he transition at all. Was definitely fun though | ||
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Elentos
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On October 06 2019 00:23 Wombat_NI wrote: I’m still not sure if that was actually a good game, I did enjoy it but I’m really not sure what the hell Parting was doing. Continuous gateway aggression off a bunch of bases, can see what he was thinking but he didn’t even upgrade his units particularly quickly, nor did he transition at all. Was definitely fun though He wanted to brute force through with infinite lower tech units off of a huge economy. People from every race have done that against in different situations over the years. It was on the verge of working too, it's pretty wild that TY held on for so long. He lost his 4th base twice, had to give it up for free once. It looked like PartinG was going to strangle him. At some point it was 6 base vs 3 base and PartinG had better units (except for the banshees). That's pretty ridiculous to come back from with mech vs Protoss. Especially when you're stuck defending on your half of the map almost the entire time. PartinG should have transitioned earlier. He only started doing that when TY was about to take his 6th base. But it's kind of a tough call to make to transition when you feel like you're perpetually on the verge of maybe killing them. If TY hadn't done such a good job keeping the banshees alive through every fight PartinG's style would have worked for sure. | ||
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swarminfestor
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On October 06 2019 00:23 Wombat_NI wrote: I’m still not sure if that was actually a good game, I did enjoy it but I’m really not sure what the hell Parting was doing. Continuous gateway aggression off a bunch of bases, can see what he was thinking but he didn’t even upgrade his units particularly quickly, nor did he transition at all. Was definitely fun though Yeah, in term of the decision made by both players, I agreed that the game may not considered "good" after all. But, it was sure entertaining to see both players spare minutes fighting back and forth and losing their units comparably. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On October 06 2019 00:37 Elentos wrote: He wanted to brute force through with infinite lower tech units off of a huge economy. People from every race have done that against in different situations over the years. It was on the verge of working too, it's pretty wild that TY held on for so long. He lost his 4th base twice, had to give it up for free once. It looked like PartinG was going to strangle him. At some point it was 6 base vs 3 base and PartinG had better units (except for the banshees). That's pretty ridiculous to come back from with mech vs Protoss. Especially when you're stuck defending on your half of the map almost the entire time. PartinG should have transitioned earlier. He only started doing that when TY was about to take his 6th base. But it's kind of a tough call to make to transition when you feel like you're perpetually on the verge of maybe killing them. If TY hadn't done such a good job keeping the banshees alive through every fight PartinG's style would have worked for sure. I agree with wombat I usually dont like questioning the play of a SC2 legend, but while Parting's strategy was sound, his tactics were bad for a player of his caliber. While TY was on 4 bases, parting did not once attempt to send prisms into the 6 o clock base, or even thru the 6 o cluck base into the the main. He kept trying to brute force his way into the tank line. If you choose to go with the gateway flood you MUST incorporate warp prism harass. A turtle mech terran has all of it's insane power concentrated at one small point/region. The goal is to abuse this and attack other areas. Parting did none of that. Parting also built too many archons, aka the worst unit u can build against 200/200 mech. If parting simply built a 2nd warp prism he wouldve ended TY imo. I agree with you that even after that blunder, he did not transition fast enough. going phoenix vs mech at that point in the game is suicide | ||
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I'm sad Shine didn't show the resources/units lost near the end of the game because that must have been ridiculous. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On October 06 2019 00:37 Elentos wrote: He wanted to brute force through with infinite lower tech units off of a huge economy. People from every race have done that against in different situations over the years. It was on the verge of working too, it's pretty wild that TY held on for so long. He lost his 4th base twice, had to give it up for free once. It looked like PartinG was going to strangle him. At some point it was 6 base vs 3 base and PartinG had better units (except for the banshees). That's pretty ridiculous to come back from with mech vs Protoss. Especially when you're stuck defending on your half of the map almost the entire time. PartinG should have transitioned earlier. He only started doing that when TY was about to take his 6th base. But it's kind of a tough call to make to transition when you feel like you're perpetually on the verge of maybe killing them. If TY hadn't done such a good job keeping the banshees alive through every fight PartinG's style would have worked for sure. He was floating a lot of gas and dumping it in Archons. Even when he was sticking to pure gate aggression he could at least have got to 3/3 way faster. Not transitioning to other tech, questionable through our eyes but he did almost break TY a bunch of times, fair enough. Being behind in upgrades though just seems a massive oversight on his part. | ||
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On October 06 2019 03:15 Wombat_NI wrote: He was floating a lot of gas and dumping it in Archons. Even when he was sticking to pure gate aggression he could at least have got to 3/3 way faster. Not transitioning to other tech, questionable through our eyes but he did almost break TY a bunch of times, fair enough. Being behind in upgrades though just seems a massive oversight on his part. I guess he forgot about 3/3 or in some sort of adrenaline rush didn't think he needed it until it got too expensive. He was up in upgrades for the longest time after all. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
Either do that, or push at the front door with a bunch of 2/2 then 3/3 chronoed upgraded gateway units and trade more efficiently, or transition to higher tech. Parting just kept attacking with pure gateway that wasn’t even ahead in upgrades, but eventually fell behind in them. It made for a nailbiting game for sure, but only because Parting’s play was so lacking in any of these domains. Ok he’s on a bad streak but put Trap in Parting’s position and he just crushes TY, or Stats looking at his games against Maru’s mech. TY’s style was cool but, tbh just bad really. He couldn’t hold against prisms if they’d be employed, his composition wouldn’t be good against a Protoss who transitioned well to higher tech. He almost got broken anyway, despite all this. | ||
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repomaniak
Poland324 Posts
and more GSL clips... + Show Spoiler + GSL HALLO from russia GSL Audience GSL cheer taiwan GSL artosis patch zerg GSL soo interview GSL cheer go TY GSL are immortals shooting bullets plasma verse tasteless GSL Artosis plasma verse GSL disco WHAT | ||
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Elentos
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On October 06 2019 03:22 Wombat_NI wrote: Also as Beserk said there was a real lack of prisms to try and pull TY apart too. Either do that, or push at the front door with a bunch of 2/2 then 3/3 chronoed upgraded gateway units and trade more efficiently, or transition to higher tech. Parting just kept attacking with pure gateway that wasn’t even ahead in upgrades, but eventually fell behind in them. It made for a nailbiting game for sure, but only because Parting’s play was so lacking in any of these domains. Ok he’s on a bad streak but put Trap in Parting’s position and he just crushes TY, or Stats looking at his games against Maru’s mech. TY’s style was cool but, tbh just bad really. He couldn’t hold against prisms if they’d be employed, his composition wouldn’t be good against a Protoss who transitioned well to higher tech. He almost got broken anyway, despite all this. PartinG was ahead minimum 1 upgrade on the ground units for over 15 minutes. Defending warp prism harass would have been easy, he had a dozen 2/2 speed banshees. Defending warp prism harass combined with a frontal assault would have been extremely hard. But that's true for whatever style of Terran you play. And yes, mech is absolute trash, that's why TY still almost lost on the only map that's somewhat okay for mech TvP. | ||
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