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On August 18 2019 11:49 Zambrah wrote: Elazer winning this tournament would be an enormous upset, if you look at his path to the finals though it definetely seems a little less impressive when compared to the path Serral took, so that diminishes the upset quality imo. The hardest paths in this tournament are the ones that lead to Serral.
Elazer winning this would be amazing.
This dude got here on the good wishes of his compatriots. Not skill alone, not results alone. Just fan support.
If he wins by beating the number 1 and number 2 zergs in the world.
That is nutts. He has been a major underdog in every match and game 4 against neeb.... he had 12 drones vs 55 probes at the end.
He had to have a perfect and lucky engage to even get here.
If he flopped after the the voting thing... I was going to place anti votes ... just as karma.
Now he gets an autovote over better players like Reynor just because how brass is swinging set is.
Every match he won has been an upset. A win and he is legend.
He is clearly mechanically worse then people he has beat. I am a Serral fan but... if he loses to Elazer... I will rest knowing he is the best and Elazer lived his dream.
The story is worth Serral losing money he doesn't need and acclaim that he will get for beating all top pros to get here anyway.
Poland better be fucking proud.
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On August 18 2019 13:44 tigon_ridge wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:On August 18 2019 09:10 tigon_ridge wrote:If Elazer wins, this tournament will be considered the biggest upsets tournament in the history of Starcraft, including Broodwar. I'm a big, big Serral fan, but it'll be super fun to talk about this tournament if Elazer takes the trophy. Chats, youtube comments, and TL forum threads will be filled with chaos, befuddlement, memes, and amusement. Mwahawhaw > ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Hm, I doubt it mate, there have been waaay bigger upsets. I would not mind Elazer taking the titles but Serral has won too few tournaments this year, I would like to see him on top of the world once more. I don't think you understand my point. It would not be the biggest upset for a match, but the tournament with the greatest combined amount of upsets. Hardly anyone expected the big names in this tournament to be defeated by Elazer and TIME. Hardly anyone expected Maru to get 0-3ed by Stats. Hardly anyone expected Neeb to go 3-1 to the one and only Stats; and then after that mega series, would get beaten by Elazer. And finally, I don't think many expected even the Fin himself to have only dropped 3 maps total to 3 BIG Koreans. I think that's already a massive combined total of unexpected results. Of course, there may be even more to come from the teams competition.
Yeah only thing that comes close in recent memory is GSL Season 2 ro32..
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I didn't watch the games yet but why is everyone talking about Infestors? Were they abused or something?
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On August 18 2019 14:01 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 11:49 Zambrah wrote: Elazer winning this tournament would be an enormous upset, if you look at his path to the finals though it definetely seems a little less impressive when compared to the path Serral took, so that diminishes the upset quality imo. The hardest paths in this tournament are the ones that lead to Serral. Elazer winning this would be amazing. This dude got here on the good wishes of his compatriots. Not skill alone, not results alone. Just fan support. If he wins by beating the number 1 and number 2 zergs in the world. That is nutts. He has been a major underdog in every match and game 4 against neeb.... he had 12 drones vs 55 probes at the end. He had to have a perfect and lucky engage to even get here. If he flopped after the the voting thing... I was going to place anti votes ... just as karma. Now he gets an autovote over better players like Reynor just because how brass is swinging set is. Every match he won has been an upset. A win and he is legend. He is clearly mechanically worse then people he has beat. I am a Serral fan but... if he loses to Elazer... I will rest knowing he is the best and Elazer lived his dream. The story is worth Serral losing money he doesn't need and acclaim that he will get for beating all top pros to get here anyway. Poland better be fucking proud.
Yeah Elazer is showing the same clutch in 2016 and 2017 that he's been missing for almost 2 years. I think Serral will win this 4-2 but it would be pretty cool if Elazer won. I would say he was pretty clearly the underdog of every series he played in this tournament.
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So what will be played first? The final or the team matches?
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On August 18 2019 14:16 MockHamill wrote: So what will be played first? The final or the team matches? Should be the team match. Hoping for a fun day, and that people could keep the amount of negativity at a reasonable level. The balance whine has been incredible. Mods, please start banning people for breaking the rules all the time.
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On August 18 2019 14:11 geokilla wrote: I didn't watch the games yet but why is everyone talking about Infestors? Were they abused or something?
Serral used them to win 3 of the 12 games he played and each time, it didn't even look close. Classic vs Serral game 3 was especially painful because Classic looked pretty ahead at one point but then just got owned. With or without the infestors, I think he would've won every series that he played anyway but the games where he got to make infestors just looked hopeless for his opponent.
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On August 18 2019 14:26 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 14:16 MockHamill wrote: So what will be played first? The final or the team matches? Should be the team match. Hoping for a fun day, and that people could keep the amount of negativity at a reasonable level. The balance whine has been incredible. Mods, please start banning people for breaking the rules all the time. Coming from Broodwar.... I have always looked down on everyone screaming to Daddy blizzard to fix things.
As a Zerg, I am pretty sure aspects of zvt are broken in terrans favor but.... I try a different approach, I dont petition the gods to fixes my loses or blame my loses on the flaws.
I imagine that thinking is pure poison for the competitive mindset.
It certainty acts as a cancer to the community.
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Shame this event has been pretty unhype. Last years was way more exiting and didn't attract the same negative feedback
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On August 18 2019 14:33 Fango wrote:Shame this event has been pretty unhype. Last years was way more exiting and didn't attract the same negative feedback Feels like the community is filled with failed attempted pros who are in a constant froth from recent ladder loses.
If you are below GM on any server. You lose because you are bad, not because of spellcasters that people at your level don't even use correctly.
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On August 18 2019 14:37 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2019 14:33 Fango wrote:Shame this event has been pretty unhype. Last years was way more exiting and didn't attract the same negative feedback Feels like the community is filled with failed attempted pros who are in a constant froth from recent ladder loses. If you are below GM on any server. You lose because you are bad, not because of spellcasters that people at your level don't even use correctly. While it's true anyone below GM likely has bad mechanics or fundamentals, mass spellcasters and other horrible strats still plague the ladder and aren't exactly fun to play against. It's easy to blame losses on X oppenent using a busted or easy strat (especially if they are).
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I have to say there is zero hype for this team match. It was better with Koreans vs the world 2 years ago.
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zero hype? people are all over the place with silly complaints and they'll watch it and the finals, because they do care. tho, the gold leaguers could chill a lil bit with the whine, its getting old
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Tell him tinfestors are destroying the game.
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On August 18 2019 14:55 Avicularia wrote: I have to say there is zero hype for this team match. It was better with Koreans vs the world 2 years ago. Blame foreigners for getting smacked so hard they changed the rules
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Super hyped for the team match, the most entertaining part of the whole event imo!
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On August 18 2019 14:59 Musicus wrote: Super hyped for the team match, the most entertaining part of the whole event imo! It would be tough for it not to be given how the events gone so far lol
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Hope Elazer vs Serral will be as hype as Elazer vs Dark, that was one of the best series so far. Team match also better not disappoint!
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koreans managing to save thier faces in this team match...literally the red read redemption for this awful tournament rite now
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