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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
June 30 2019 19:15 GMT
#541
On July 01 2019 04:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 04:13 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 01 2019 04:12 Elentos wrote:
On July 01 2019 04:08 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 01 2019 04:01 Quasarrion wrote:
Zest can beat anyone, but defineatly not Serral

Zest is only a shadow of his former self, for over a year now. He can mostly lose to anyone

What does that say about the scene that it's been less than a year since his last GSL semifinal?

First of all many agreed that he had very easy path and the second think - I thought It was 15 months ago

Shockingly September was not 15 months ago. And neither is June which was when he played his last GSL final.

Can we stop dissassembling every joke I make? There was the smiley for a reason, but since many people are so tight and cannot tell the joke

I ADDED THE EDIT...

mg.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 30 2019 19:17 GMT
#542
Ok this series has been really sad so far.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 30 2019 19:17 GMT
#543
Zest's run pretty sick this HSC. Slaying all the foreigners and now he's getting to the koreans
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 30 2019 19:18 GMT
#544
How was Serral vs TY?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 30 2019 19:18 GMT
#545
On July 01 2019 04:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
How was Serral vs TY?

Very nice.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
June 30 2019 19:18 GMT
#546
soO is nothing have anything of this delay in the schedule
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 30 2019 19:18 GMT
#547
On July 01 2019 04:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
How was Serral vs TY?

Severely impaired by internet issues.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7694 Posts
June 30 2019 19:19 GMT
#548
That was such a limp attempt.

What about the Meta makes that shit valid? Lucky no adept scout? Lucky late air scout?

There are obvious tools to beat that type of attack.

Very Blah.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 30 2019 19:19 GMT
#549
On July 01 2019 04:14 AttackZerg wrote:
Elentos - You are a great resource.


He is also a tool sometimes, so that's even more universality right here!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 30 2019 19:20 GMT
#550
Is this soO Zest or Neeb Scarlett?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 19:23:53
June 30 2019 19:20 GMT
#551
On July 01 2019 04:07 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 04:02 Fango wrote:
On July 01 2019 03:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 01 2019 03:49 Xain0n wrote:
On July 01 2019 03:07 AttackZerg wrote:
On July 01 2019 03:03 Xain0n wrote:
On July 01 2019 03:00 AttackZerg wrote:
On July 01 2019 02:55 Pandain wrote:
On July 01 2019 02:52 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 01 2019 02:49 AzAlexZ wrote:
[quote]
but Serral didn't win yet, you know why? cuz TY is great at late game (and mid game), get it in your thick skull buddy.
If TY was a lesser Terran Serral would've killed him already, what does that tell you about TY's Macro and late game?

Oh FFS, it's just a matter of time, the only way how to lose is to do some move command and die to stupidity.

Get your thick skull tested, not mine, jeez

On July 01 2019 02:51 Pandain wrote:
[quote]

You're so obsessed with hating on serral. I never even mentioned serral. You think I did because you love debating about him in every single thread.

I just said that saying TY is not known for late game is really dumb

Jesus fucking christ, multiple times I mentioned he's top 4, he's probably the best zerg but hey, I'm the hater here. Stop being a blind fanboy and read what I write, not what YOU THINK I WRITE...


You and Char and Xainon literally mess up every single thread talking about Serral. Even random threads that have nothing to do with it.
Case in point: I didn't mention serral once and you think I did and started the debate.

Let me be more nuanced: you don't hate serral. you are addicted to debating serral fanboys to the extreme.


Every time I point out he MIGHT be the best zerg in all matchups ... they come out of the woodwork.

Sc2 culture is so much worse then the bw scene was. I can't tell if it is age or just part and parcel of the whole internet getting stupider. These forums often barely differ from USEast.

... the public chat on west is actually worse then east. Dark times.


Well, not speaking about Serral when Serral is playing a ZvT. I rarely introduce the argument, but I almost always speak when senseless things are said(quite often).


I think the debate about best zerg is valid. I think many members on this forum have great perspective in both directions.

Obviously, I am not talking about people who have valid commentary, having veteran sc2 players/members disagree with me is great, obviously they have valid reasons for disagreeing with me. I am totally fine with being wrong and learning why.

It is the bandwagon of rage that shows up whenever he is mentioned.

Is korean-0-phile a thing? Korean-centric? Dick riders?
Not sure, but their is an anti-fan element that I lack good language to describe.

If TRUE would have won what Serral did and played just like he does, WCS titles would still be compared to Olimoleagues but the atmosphere would be much more relaxed like it happens in Brood War forums and how it used to be during HoTS(my answer to what Opisska is saying).


I wonder why that might be... Maybe because TRUE doesn't have as fanatic fanboys as Serral?

In terms of attention from the community, foreigners have to do half as much as koreans to get hype. Probably less than half actually. They can literally win one big match/event and the community will take years to stop talking about it. Even if 9/10 times they lose.

imagine saying that without sarcasm

Remember when Neeb won a single lategame against Rogue and people didn't stop talking about it for ages? Even though he got smacked 2-0 in both followup matches right after.

Or maybe when Neeb won kespa cup and had something like a 16% winrate against koreans for a year after? People were still bringing up kespa cup the whole time.

Remember how hyped Scarlett was for making ro8 in GSL despite the fact she's had nine attempts and only one good run (where she basically cheesed every game iirc).

Remember when Serral won GSL vs The World, one of the weakest weekenders of the year, and was suddenly praised as the best player in the world when Maru was literally winning back-to-back GSLs? Or if you wanna go even further, Serral has won two relevant tournaments and is in the running for GOAT according to a lot of people.

Hell, people didn't stop talking about Showtime beating ByuN at blizzcon a few years ago. No one brings up the fact he's gone 0-17 against korean terrans since.

Point is, compare that with lower tier koreans, no one cares when Hurricane makes a deep GSL run or Bunny beats Maru in a bo3. Stats could have won GSL vs TW and blizzcon and would have had a fraction of the hype Serral did.

edit: to clarify, I'm not trying to downplay what those foreigners did, I'm just saying that it's easier for them to get praise and hype from the community.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 30 2019 19:20 GMT
#552
internet went out and i missed game 1 and 2 of soo-zest

any of them go lategame?
TL+ Member
Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
June 30 2019 19:20 GMT
#553
Jetlagged Zest lost his first 2 games since then he killed everyone easily
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
June 30 2019 19:20 GMT
#554
What if soO goes SH and Zest goes blink stalkers on this map? That might be fun.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#555
On July 01 2019 04:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
How was Serral vs TY?


It was a treat. It really showed they were playing each other for the first time and wanted to measure each other's skills and play their best
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#556
This looks like 3-0 lol

Poor.soO
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#557
On July 01 2019 04:20 BerserkSword wrote:
internet went out and i missed game 1 and 2 of soo-zest

any of them go lategame?


No, nope, nada, niet ... you get the gist
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#558
On July 01 2019 04:20 BerserkSword wrote:
internet went out and i missed game 1 and 2 of soo-zest

any of them go lategame?

Silly question.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#559
On July 01 2019 04:21 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 04:20 BerserkSword wrote:
internet went out and i missed game 1 and 2 of soo-zest

any of them go lategame?


No, nope, nada, niet ... you get the gist


understood haha. thanks
TL+ Member
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 30 2019 19:22 GMT
#560
On July 01 2019 04:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 04:20 BerserkSword wrote:
internet went out and i missed game 1 and 2 of soo-zest

any of them go lategame?

Silly question.


it feels like my internet was down for over an hour so i thought if this is only game 3 then maybe....just maybe
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