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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 17 2019 11:18 GMT
#921
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player


I don't think it's necessarily bad, it's just his ZvT is relatively his weakest/shakiest matchup. Doesn't mean he's flat out bad at it. But Korean Terrans are levels above EU Terrans, and Serral's almost always made to work extra hard against them. If he consistently practiced in the KR ladder and against KR Terrans, I think he would be much better at it.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 17 2019 11:18 GMT
#922
Series started bad but it's turning out decently. Please end with a macro game.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
March 17 2019 11:18 GMT
#923
early game disadvantage -> late game disadvantage, and inno's big hold was undone by losing his army at the 5th
Year of MaxPax
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 17 2019 11:18 GMT
#924
On March 17 2019 20:17 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player


Inno was so behind at the beginning tbh

yes and was it not Serral who made Inno behind???????????
Faker is the GOAT!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 17 2019 11:18 GMT
#925
That said the true game winning moment was the fact that Serral basically contained Inno at some point. Something i have not seen happen in these other 3 ultra late ZvTs i have seen.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 17 2019 11:18 GMT
#926
Oh look, Serral won a lategame TvZ? Maybe he is capable of doing so, don't you think?

The last game can go either way, still you haters might start to treat Serral like a proper top player.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#927
On March 17 2019 20:17 IshinShishi wrote:
maybe inno needed a few bcs to play vs this, I dont think terran can win at all if both players play like they should with these comps

Vikings feel too frail against parasitic bomb and fungal, and i feel Inno could get a lot of value out of Yamato.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#928
The was a phenomal late game, extremely close up until the end.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#929
On March 17 2019 20:17 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:17 IshinShishi wrote:
maybe inno needed a few bcs to play vs this, I dont think terran can win at all if both players play like they should with these comps

he lost because Serral was mining from his bases for a long time due to the advantage he had going into the lategame

when serral got enough infestors and vipers inno just kept losing units with no compensation, serral didnt even use his bank
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#930
On March 17 2019 20:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:17 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player

So he won 1 map after several maps lost and he's great? uhm.

yeah the only game in this finals that went to nukes and ultra late game, Serral won

Let's call the other game where it went into Hive BL an early game TvZ... ><
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#931
On March 17 2019 20:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:17 ParksonVN wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player


Inno was so behind at the beginning tbh

yes and was it not Serral who made Inno behind???????????

that's how you win lategame, just win early game
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#932
On March 17 2019 20:18 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:17 ParksonVN wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player


Inno was so behind at the beginning tbh

Doesn't matter if you're Serral fanboy.

was behind at the start, then after the first BL attack, he held and was even or maybe ahead. Then serral hit the 5th, just in time
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#933
On March 17 2019 20:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:17 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player

So he won 1 map after several maps lost and he's great? uhm.

yeah the only game in this finals that went to nukes and ultra late game, Serral won


Did you miss the early/midgame? He had a pretty big advantage going into the lategame.
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ScrappyRabbit
Profile Joined March 2016
200 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#934
Friendly little $110k game of starcraft.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#935
On March 17 2019 20:18 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:16 Charoisaur wrote:
I think killing Inno's 5th after the first BL fight won Serral the game

I would say it kept him in the game. If not for that move Inno would have suffocated him slowly but surely.
Very good game, that s what i was waiting for

the reason why I'm saying this is because this made Inno expand Inno slowly than he would do usually which allowed Serral to take some of the expansions on Inno's side of the map which won him the game
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 17 2019 11:19 GMT
#936
they keep cutting away from serral's camera very quickly. he looks like he's turning blue wtf. inno poised with his newly clear skin thanks to proactiv just 3 easy steps
get rich or die mining
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 17 2019 11:20 GMT
#937
What decided this game was that Serral killed Innos 5th. From then on Inno didn't have the economy to go BC Raven Ghost. He had to stick with libs which are completely useless... Also he made a lot of control mistakes again, ghost movement was bad...
G7 will probably be a cheese
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 17 2019 11:20 GMT
#938
On March 17 2019 20:19 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:17 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:16 AzAlexZ wrote:
WHO SAID SERRAL HAS BAD LATE GAME ZVT??!!! This is a great display of late game ZvT.
And this goes without saying, which is why i'm saying it, but Inno is also a great late game TvZ player

So he won 1 map after several maps lost and he's great? uhm.

yeah the only game in this finals that went to nukes and ultra late game, Serral won


Did you miss the early/midgame? He had a pretty big advantage going into the lategame.

yes and Serral got Inno behind, so whatever Serral is doing as a game plan is good
Faker is the GOAT!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2019 11:20 GMT
#939
On March 17 2019 20:19 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 20:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2019 20:17 IshinShishi wrote:
maybe inno needed a few bcs to play vs this, I dont think terran can win at all if both players play like they should with these comps

he lost because Serral was mining from his bases for a long time due to the advantage he had going into the lategame

when serral got enough infestors and vipers inno just kept losing units with no compensation, serral didnt even use his bank

INnoVation came extremely close to winning the game, he probably would've won if that 5th hadn't gone down, like Charoisaur said.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
March 17 2019 11:20 GMT
#940
On March 17 2019 20:18 JoeCool wrote:
This is awful, this is like the BLord/Infestor era. Where they had to cancel a PL match after like 2.5 hours because it was a stalemate.

That was a mech vs swarm host game in 2014. It wasn't cancelled, it was (unjustly, I might add, since Reality would have won if he had 30 more minutes) ruled a draw and replayed.
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