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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 17 2019 07:18 GMT
#261
On March 17 2019 16:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 16:16 TaKeTV wrote:
That was the most stupid thing I have ever witnessed in Starcraft and I have seen a lot of stupid stuff.


Would you honestly rank this as stupider than idra leaving two separate won games?


I'd say that it is. Maru had no indication that Scarlett had air units that could attack air, and the game lasted like 5 hours so I would think the possibility would cross his mind at any point during that.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France901 Posts
March 17 2019 07:18 GMT
#262
On March 17 2019 16:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 16:16 TaKeTV wrote:
That was the most stupid thing I have ever witnessed in Starcraft and I have seen a lot of stupid stuff.


Would you honestly rank this as stupider than idra leaving two separate won games?


It is, because idra still technically had a chance to lose, albeit very low. Maru had a 100 PERCENT CHANCE TO DRAW.
busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
March 17 2019 07:18 GMT
#263
On March 17 2019 16:17 BerserkSword wrote:
somebody posted this on twitch

Judgement of Tie Game While Both sides have no sufficient strength to destroy the opponent a). Game time is less than 20 minutes, restart the game b). Game time is more than 20 minutes, the server will count points once listed situation is happened. The Player who has 20 percent more point than the opponent wins the game. ●There is no recourses left in the map or both sides are not able to collect resources. ●Both sides have no sufficient strength to destroy the opponent.

dont know if it's legit


Ah, then I assume Maru believed that he will have a lower game score than Scarlett in a draw situation. Ok. so this is explainable after all but still, wow!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 17 2019 07:19 GMT
#264
On March 17 2019 16:17 TaKeTV wrote:
From WESG 2018 rulebook:

Judgement of Tie Game While Both sides have no sufficient strength to destroy the opponent a). Game time is less than 20 minutes, restart the game b). Game time is more than 20 minutes, the server will count points once listed situation is happened. The Player who has 20 percent more point than the opponent wins the game. ●There is no recourses left in the map or both sides are not able to collect resources. ●Both sides have no sufficient strength to destroy the opponent.


That's...o.O not how starcraft works. Horrible if true.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 17 2019 07:19 GMT
#265
On March 17 2019 16:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 16:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On March 17 2019 16:16 TaKeTV wrote:
That was the most stupid thing I have ever witnessed in Starcraft and I have seen a lot of stupid stuff.


Would you honestly rank this as stupider than idra leaving two separate won games?


I would 100%. Maru had half an hour of nothing happening to figure out how to float a building into a corner.

On the plus side, we don't get to suffer through a rematch on King's Cove.


I feel like I'm torn and the recency of the stupidity makes me agree with you moreso than how actually stupid it was. But this was definitely fucking stupid
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
March 17 2019 07:19 GMT
#266
LOL game score? really?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
March 17 2019 07:20 GMT
#267
On March 17 2019 16:18 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
i guess after the pause maru was sure that she has some money for 1 corruptor/muta in her bank. so sure, that he might finally forget to let her show it before he gg'd.


Even if there is 1 corruptor he could sit in a corner with all of the vikings, it'd take more than that to turn the game into a loss
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2019 07:21 GMT
#268
On March 17 2019 16:19 blooblooblahblah wrote:
LOL game score? really?

China baby
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Drinksarlot1
Profile Joined July 2018
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 07:22:28
March 17 2019 07:21 GMT
#269
http://sea.wesg.com/rules/game-rules/starcraft-ii/

It mentions the 20% more points rule. Weird.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 17 2019 07:21 GMT
#270
Wait, someone actually uses this game score thing? I knew it was most useless part of statistics... but never though it would be actively harmful.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 17 2019 07:22 GMT
#271
Btw what were the game scores after gg then?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
March 17 2019 07:22 GMT
#272
We're supposed to watch ASL after this. Another game like that would ruin the perfect schedule.
gophersnake
Profile Joined July 2018
48 Posts
March 17 2019 07:23 GMT
#273
This fucking tournament man...
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
March 17 2019 07:23 GMT
#274
On March 17 2019 16:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, someone actually uses this game score thing? I knew it was most useless part of statistics... but never though it would be actively harmful.


Game scores as in experience? That would be awful
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 17 2019 07:23 GMT
#275
On March 17 2019 16:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, someone actually uses this game score thing? I knew it was most useless part of statistics... but never though it would be actively harmful.

afaik it's a mechanic built into warcraft 3 bnet tournies so that people get through more matches
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2019 07:23 GMT
#276
Wtf does "The Player who has 20 percent more point than the opponent wins the game." mean anyways. Why 20 percent? What happens if it's not 20 percent?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 17 2019 07:23 GMT
#277
At least it seems as though the Macsed stuff is nonsense, as the caster would definitely not be allowed to joke about it if the organizers had any reason to believe it was true
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
March 17 2019 07:23 GMT
#278
Okay, despite the ending, I thought that game was pretty great. Scarlett showed an immense amount of patience to get to the point where she could actually fight back and not lose the game, and Maru's persistence with the nukes and the map presence was crazy. I thought Scarlett was dead for sure for like 30 minute. (And then I thought it was a draw for 20 minutes but ya know)
Djsoke
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
March 17 2019 07:24 GMT
#279
It's a very good rule, no idea why so many people defend Maru there. Also, after a game of 200 nukes I really think he deserved that painful lose xD

SC2 dev team needs to do something about those late games because they are just damn boring and unfun to both: play and watch.
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
March 17 2019 07:24 GMT
#280
I just read the WESG rules and it is clear that Scarlett would be the winner if Maru floated buildings into the corner (if the score difference actually was 20%):

Draw scenarios:

A draw occurs when both players cannot eliminate each other.
i. If the game time has not reached 20 minutes, a rematch of the map will be held.
ii. If the game time is past 20 minutes, the verdict will be decided using the in-game score, and the player whose score is 20% higher than the opponent will be declared victor, provided if:
1. There are no more resources remaining on the map.
2. Both players do not have the army count to finish each other.

ii. If player scores are less than 20% apart, a draw will be called and a rematch will be held.
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
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