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sneakyfox
8217 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:57 argonautdice wrote: Are you talking about Serral? He's already beaten Dark at GSL vs World. (And Inno beat Rogue 3-1 and then got 3-0'd by Serral.) But then Neeb 3-1'd Rogue, in an unfavoured matchup too. So there's that. The other interesting thing would be if soO somehow gets to Blizzcon. Would be fun to see him vs Serral. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:56 Nerchio wrote: Yeah but I can be happy for myself since reynor winning that match was important for me :D Indeed, I can't blame you either | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:55 sneakyfox wrote: With that in mind it's actually crazy that Circuit sends a perfectly balanced group to Blizzcon! (3 zerg, 3 toss, 2 terran) This may have something to do with Has and Special collecting a ton of easy challenger points and being gifted stage 3 seeds. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
This tournament really look like the passing of the torch for the foreign SC2 Snute retiring, liquid getting eliminated from Blizzcon, almost all of the old guard, the Nerchio-Bly-Snute-Stephano-Special-Harstem-True-Mana-Elazer ect... failling to go far and even Showtime, Neeb and Scarlett didn't do that well. I hope it's not over by any mean for any of them and they certainly can go back at the top, but it really look like it's time for a new generation of foreign starcraft who came to fruition with LOTV and we probably be the one to put "foreign" sc2 above Korean Starcraft. (Or at least play long enough to see it implode) | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8318 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:26 Bagration wrote: Has anyone ever done a good champagne bottle opening? I think Stephano did once? | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8318 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: uThermal 1 map away from getting to Blizzcon  Same with Scarlett | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Scarlett was two maps. But Reynor was one map as well. Reynor literally only lost to Serral in wcs this year | ||
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hexhaven
Finland964 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:26 Bagration wrote: Has anyone ever done a good champagne bottle opening? Absolutely. ![[image loading]](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52d2f6dce4b0ac4f089c359f/57139606c6fc08d846f38a68/571398af044262398e43ff0f/1466512269137/es005.jpg?format=2500w) | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On September 10 2018 09:14 Fango wrote: Scarlett was two maps. But Reynor was one map as well. Reynor literally only lost to Serral in wcs this year If Reynor manage to beat Nerchio in the Qlash invitational next week he will get a chance to go to the online final on his home turf in Italy where we might very well see a rematch of Reynor-Serral, could be hype! By the way there is also a way for Snute to qualify for the offline final so maybe the retirement could wait a bit  | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2721 Posts
On September 10 2018 09:09 Nakajin wrote: This tournament really look like the passing of the torch for the foreign SC2 Snute retiring, liquid getting eliminated from Blizzcon, almost all of the old guard, the Nerchio-Bly-Snute-Stephano-Special-Harstem-True-Mana-Elazer ect... failling to go far and even Showtime, Neeb and Scarlett didn't do that well. I hope it's not over by any mean for any of them and they certainly can go back at the top, but it really look like it's time for a new generation of foreign starcraft who came to fruition with LOTV and we probably be the one to put "foreign" sc2 above Korean Starcraft. (Or at least play long enough to see it implode) Interestingly, I judge whether someone's an old guard by 2 criteria: 1) whether they were relevant during WoL (how long they've played the game) and 2) whether they're older than 24 based on that pretty neat research article suggesting that eye-hand coordination and other skills relevant for playing SC2 start to decline past 24. So based on those criteria, I think Neeb (20), Elazer (20), and maybe Showtime (24) are still young and have only really started during HotS still have pretty good potential to do extremely well, while MaNa (24), Harstem (24), Scarlett (24), maybe SpeCial (25) are passing their peak age and have been around since WoL so their time are kind of running out but still I'd say have a good shot. The rest of the people you mentioned have been progamers since WoL and are past 25 (except Stephano, but he's kind of checked out) so they're the real old guard and yeah it's gonna be harder for them to stay competitive depending on their mental and physical fortitude. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
I mean he is thirsty. | ||
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tilhorizon
Germany191 Posts
no if scarlet has won vs serral she still has to win vs lambo | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2721 Posts
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twndomn
401 Posts
The older foreigner scene, Nerchio, Stephano, Special, and Elazer just weren't cutting it. People's attention ended as soon as the line-up in the final was announced. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19379 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On September 10 2018 09:54 twndomn wrote: This event is about as normal as WCS Valencia. Serral's usual dominance, cruising to the final. Someone who's lesser known from non-Korean Asia knocked out the usual European and NA names. The older foreigner scene, Nerchio, Stephano, Special, and Elazer just weren't cutting it. People's attention ended as soon as the line-up in the final was announced. 'older' and 'Elazer' xd the guy is playing sc2 for the past 3 years and he is 24. I don't see old in here :D | ||
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raff100
498 Posts
-Serral won 4 WCS, Neeb 3 -Serral reached the semi of IEM Katowice, Neeb was stomped in that tournament and not even able to escape the group stage (he ended the group in last place, losing to Stats,TY,alive and jjakj) -Serral and Neeb both won a tournament in KR,but Neeb did it on the back of a single MU while Serral won it all 3 vs top players -Both Serral and Neeb got 3d place in WESG Not only Serral has been more successful in foreignland due to his 4th consecutive win, he has been better than Neeb even vs Koreans due to his deeper Katowice run | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On September 10 2018 09:54 twndomn wrote: This event is about as normal as WCS Valencia. Serral's usual dominance, cruising to the final. Someone who's lesser known from non-Korean Asia knocked out the usual European and NA names. The older foreigner scene, Nerchio, Stephano, Special, and Elazer just weren't cutting it. People's attention ended as soon as the line-up in the final was announced. Interesting definition of "cruising to the finals" after going the full distance in 2 consecutive bo5s.. Not to mention that being on the brink of defeat in 3 consecutive series and having to claw his way back in a decider map on multiple occassions is a rather unusual form of dominance... Calling Has a lesser known Asian is rather weird, too, given that he has barely missed any wcs ro32 in 3 years and has reached the elimination bracket quite often. Never mind, that there has been a huge TL article posted about HaS prior to his Valencia run... Nerchio and Special reached the elimination bracket in Valencia (just like in the 2 previous events there is a reason they are going to Blizzcon). Overall, you seem to have a rather unconventional take on pattern recognition. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
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Fbaby
19 Posts
On September 10 2018 08:35 AzAlexZ wrote: i said bo5 Rogue is not a the best example since he can go from world champ to wtf am I doing i'm just gonna lose' And you obviously have a perfect excuse for every arguments people have that don't prove your points. | ||
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