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SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
September 11 2018 00:59 GMT
#1961
On September 11 2018 05:48 HolydaKing wrote:
Still no TL article on Serral winning WCS? Just feels weird, usually (small) news are up after a short while.

As for the Larvae... damn I didn't even notice that. That's a huge difference. It might also be that Serral killed some Queens, since he only had 2 at the time of that pic? I'm not sure, I only watched the game live.


I bet they are writing a longer piece for such a major victory and the record breaking 4th WCS win.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12944 Posts
September 11 2018 07:59 GMT
#1962
On the other hand, the fact that he only played ZvZ showcases that there is a problem in the foreign scene or in the game itself.
WriterMaru
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18324 Posts
September 11 2018 08:48 GMT
#1963
On September 11 2018 16:59 Poopi wrote:
On the other hand, the fact that he only played ZvZ showcases that there is a problem in the foreign scene or in the game itself.

Not really. One tournament can never showcase that, unless it's a whole bunch of the exact same strategy bring abused, which wasn't the case.
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
September 11 2018 12:50 GMT
#1964
On September 10 2018 22:11 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 22:08 Fango wrote:
On September 10 2018 22:02 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2018 22:00 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On September 10 2018 19:20 IshinShishi wrote:
Im disappointed because I think Reynor could've won the 6th game by simply having enough spine crawlers at his fifth which got hit ad infinitum by small number of roaches till Serral got the upper hand, if that hadn't worked Reynor's bank would've been way too much for Serral to conquer.

On the another hand, Reynor had waaay less larva for some reason

not "for some reason", he stopped injecting. Serral didn't

Both are true. He stopped injecting for some reason.

FOR SOME REASON

he didn't have the APM, he didn't jsut chose to play worse "for some reason"


As far is I observed, Raynor is imensely fast, easily sitting at 400+ avarage APM, often at 500+, with peaks at 1000. He may very well be the fastest player on earth right now. Definitely APM wasn't the reason.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
September 11 2018 13:19 GMT
#1965
On September 11 2018 17:48 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2018 16:59 Poopi wrote:
On the other hand, the fact that he only played ZvZ showcases that there is a problem in the foreign scene or in the game itself.

Not really. One tournament can never showcase that, unless it's a whole bunch of the exact same strategy bring abused, which wasn't the case.


then what would showcase that for you? A Zerg won 4 WCS a year, you might say it was because Serral is too good. But how comes all the top WCS players who can actually compete with Serral are mostly Zerg: Scarlet, Raynor, Lambo ?
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-11 14:56:16
September 11 2018 14:55 GMT
#1966
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Krippagon
Profile Joined September 2018
1 Post
September 11 2018 21:47 GMT
#1967
So impressed by Serral, and he is the best forign player I have seen. Still Raynor, Scarlett and Lambo played really well. Sad that Scarlett and Raynor didnt make it to Blizzcon. We miss the there.

Even if I think that Maru and Serral are the 2 best player they can still loose in the first stage of Blizzcon because the stiff competition. My dream final is Maru against Serral but probably TY against Stats .
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8310 Posts
September 11 2018 23:24 GMT
#1968
On September 11 2018 17:48 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2018 16:59 Poopi wrote:
On the other hand, the fact that he only played ZvZ showcases that there is a problem in the foreign scene or in the game itself.

Not really. One tournament can never showcase that, unless it's a whole bunch of the exact same strategy bring abused, which wasn't the case.


Totally agreed. Compared to GomTvT (especially in the 1-1-1 era), Broodlord Infestor in late 2011 to early 2013, and probably protoss at some point (blink stalker era maybe? Otherwise MAYBE 4Gate, but that was mostly limited to PvP, mostly...), this is nothing. In fact, I'd say the most commonly used strategy in this tournament was probably Terran proxies.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
September 12 2018 07:31 GMT
#1969
Where is the write up and vods I'm on YouTube looking all over and there wasn't even a write up yet lmao I had to check today if someone even won LOL
Sc2 always got your back
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
September 12 2018 07:34 GMT
#1970
On September 11 2018 22:19 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2018 17:48 Acrofales wrote:
On September 11 2018 16:59 Poopi wrote:
On the other hand, the fact that he only played ZvZ showcases that there is a problem in the foreign scene or in the game itself.

Not really. One tournament can never showcase that, unless it's a whole bunch of the exact same strategy bring abused, which wasn't the case.


then what would showcase that for you? A Zerg won 4 WCS a year, you might say it was because Serral is too good. But how comes all the top WCS players who can actually compete with Serral are mostly Zerg: Scarlet, Raynor, Lambo ?


Two of the three "top WCS players" are not even at blizzcon.
There is definetily no problem with Zerg at the top level as can be seen in GSL.
There might be a case for Uthermals argument that Zerg ist just easier to play to get to a decent level, which would also explain the huge amount of zergs right below the top WCS players.

But tbh the top WCS Zergs might simply be better than Korean Zergs right now.
It was always the race where the both regions were the closest in skill and Serral raised WCS Zergs to a whole new level.
Especially in ZvZ there are a whole bunch of foreig players I would pick over almost any korean zerg.
Reynors ZvT is also looking monstrous and he looks on track to be a top 5 zerg in non time.
Behind that you have Elazer, Scarlett, Lambo who all show flashes of brilliance but are a bit incosistent this year.
I expect most of the upsets at blizzcon to be in the vz matchups, because Koreans might not get the best practive against Zerg in their region.
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
Profile Joined July 2018
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-12 10:58:54
September 12 2018 09:33 GMT
#1971
But tbh the top WCS Zergs might simply be better than Korean Zergs right now. Koreans might not get the best practive against Zerg in their region.


what makes you think that? Just because Serral won GSL vs World? Sure but what about other foreign zergs? Serral is the only one proved to be same level with top Koreans. Rest of foreign zergs? They proved NOTHING. Reynor made ro16 in GSL, cool but does that make him better than someone like Dark and Rogue? lmao

foreign zergs result in GSL 2018

Scarlett: ro8 in s1 but eliminated in ro32 in s2, and eliminated in qualifier in s3

Lambo: eliminated in qualifier

Elazer: eliminated in ro32

Reynor: eliminated in ro16

rest: eliminated either in qualifier or ro32

In your logic, foreign zergs can't practice well vs terran and protoss in their region.

It's like this, Korean fans think foreign terran and protoss are bad, so their zerg seems looking good in their region.
Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil273 Posts
September 12 2018 12:49 GMT
#1972
Prophecyzing here...Neeb will take Blizzcon
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