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iNcontroL just said SC2 wasn't a "real" sport.
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Canada8991 Posts
On June 03 2018 04:57 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one It does decent but question is will it last, I dont think they have really found the best format/presentation for tournaments yet it can be pretty frustrating to watch and there is always people complaining about RNG.
Heartstone got a good 3 years of esport with professional coin flipping, I think PUPG is fine.
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On June 03 2018 05:02 Boggyb wrote:
iNcontroL just said SC2 wasn't a "real" sport.
Who cares?
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On June 03 2018 04:52 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 04:45 raff100 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:42 Solar424 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:39 raff100 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:34 Solar424 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:33 raff100 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:32 Solar424 wrote:
Are you seriously smiling after that? You just got 3-0'd. You should be upset. I feel like Scarlett doesn't even care anymore. Funny how Scarlett fans are trying to justify every loss with these comments lol I'm not justifying anything, I'm just upset that she won one tournament and has completely lost her competitive drive. You should never be happy after getting eliminated from a tournament, especially in such an embarrassing fashion. The fact she's not crying because of a loss doesn't mean she doesn't care anymore. Nerchio played better and she accepted it, tha's all I never said that she should be crying, stop putting words in my mouth. Look at any sporting event and tell me how many people are happy after they lose. You know that there are lots of people who laugh when they are embarassed? I can't forget Dani Alves laughing after being 4-1 by Real Madrid in the UCL finals. Different people react in different ways and btw I always remeber Scarlett reacting like that after a loss Oh really? Let's look at her reaction after being eliminated from GSL this last season: + Show Spoiler +https://youtu.be/iFi11jqDd4k?t=3300 She's straight-faced and thinking in her mind what went wrong. How about last season after getting 3-0'd by soO: Same reaction as before. She's said multiple times that GSL is more important to her than WCS, so maybe that's why she seemingly doesn't care: this tournament is like a vacation to her. But if that were true she'd be playing in the GSL qualifiers, but she's said that she isn't. I don't know what's going on in her mind, but it's clear that SC2 isn't her only priority right now. She's 24, around the age a lot of players start to retire, and she hasn't had the results that she's had in the past aside from that week she won IEM and advanced to the Ro8 of GSL. She's probably thinking about her future and wondering how much longer she plans on playing this game.
Be fair, she's absolutely not the kind of person who likes to show too much emotion publicly. That doesn't mean she doesn't care. Though you're right that SC2 isn't the only thing on her mind, that's pretty well known given she goes to things like magic tournaments and reportedly practiced by far the least at the Korea house. On the Pylon show, NoRegret basically called her out for not being as good as she thinks she is and needing to practice more, and I think that's more to blame than not caring.
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On June 03 2018 05:01 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one In general they don't get many viewers unless they let the streamers play it. Guys like Shroud can add 100K by just being there. A couple have gotten huge viewerships without them, but that's mostly due to the ridiculous popularity of the game at the time as the hype built around the tournament. I don't see them ever repeating it. Any stream can get high numbers when there's hype and the event is in the news. It's is a nice concept and I would like to see it suceed, but in terms of quality it's terrible compared to other fps esports.
Shroud usually just gets the viewers on his own channel though like dreamhack yesterday he probably had 3x what the actual tournament stream had, twitch rivals he had like 10x more, I remember some online tournaments he got 150k the tournament stream had nothing vs that. I think Cologne got 150k as the first event but yeah actual tournament streams not doing anywhere near as well lately.
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On June 03 2018 05:03 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 04:57 Zaros wrote:On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one It does decent but question is will it last, I dont think they have really found the best format/presentation for tournaments yet it can be pretty frustrating to watch and there is always people complaining about RNG. Heartstone got a good 3 years of esport with professional coin flipping, I think PUPG is fine.
Hearthstone had/has no real competition in terms of quality CCG
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United States97277 Posts
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On June 03 2018 05:04 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 05:01 Fango wrote:On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one In general they don't get many viewers unless they let the streamers play it. Guys like Shroud can add 100K by just being there. A couple have gotten huge viewerships without them, but that's mostly due to the ridiculous popularity of the game at the time as the hype built around the tournament. I don't see them ever repeating it. Any stream can get high numbers when there's hype and the event is in the news. It's is a nice concept and I would like to see it suceed, but in terms of quality it's terrible compared to other fps esports. Shroud usually just gets the viewers on his own channel though like dreamhack yesterday he probably had 3x what the actual tournament stream had, twitch rivals he had like 10x more, I remember some online tournaments he got 150k the tournament stream had nothing vs that. I think Cologne got 150k as the first event but yeah actual tournament streams not doing anywhere near as well lately.
That's my point though. A trash esport that depends on the game being ridiculously hyped and having celebrities playing it to get views probably won't last. Compared to ones that rely on being a good esport.
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On June 03 2018 05:05 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 05:03 Nakajin wrote:On June 03 2018 04:57 Zaros wrote:On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one It does decent but question is will it last, I dont think they have really found the best format/presentation for tournaments yet it can be pretty frustrating to watch and there is always people complaining about RNG. Heartstone got a good 3 years of esport with professional coin flipping, I think PUPG is fine. Hearthstone had/has no real competition in terms of quality CCG
Does pubg have competition? I know they're trying to make Fortnite the biggest thing in the history of esports but it's such a different (and god awful one) that I'm not sure if it counts.
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Czech Republic12134 Posts
On June 03 2018 05:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 04:52 Solar424 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:45 raff100 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:42 Solar424 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:39 raff100 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:34 Solar424 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:33 raff100 wrote:On June 03 2018 04:32 Solar424 wrote:
Are you seriously smiling after that? You just got 3-0'd. You should be upset. I feel like Scarlett doesn't even care anymore. Funny how Scarlett fans are trying to justify every loss with these comments lol I'm not justifying anything, I'm just upset that she won one tournament and has completely lost her competitive drive. You should never be happy after getting eliminated from a tournament, especially in such an embarrassing fashion. The fact she's not crying because of a loss doesn't mean she doesn't care anymore. Nerchio played better and she accepted it, tha's all I never said that she should be crying, stop putting words in my mouth. Look at any sporting event and tell me how many people are happy after they lose. You know that there are lots of people who laugh when they are embarassed? I can't forget Dani Alves laughing after being 4-1 by Real Madrid in the UCL finals. Different people react in different ways and btw I always remeber Scarlett reacting like that after a loss Oh really? Let's look at her reaction after being eliminated from GSL this last season: + Show Spoiler +https://youtu.be/iFi11jqDd4k?t=3300 She's straight-faced and thinking in her mind what went wrong. How about last season after getting 3-0'd by soO: https://youtu.be/vgeLds7z_JA?t=2378Same reaction as before. She's said multiple times that GSL is more important to her than WCS, so maybe that's why she seemingly doesn't care: this tournament is like a vacation to her. But if that were true she'd be playing in the GSL qualifiers, but she's said that she isn't. I don't know what's going on in her mind, but it's clear that SC2 isn't her only priority right now. She's 24, around the age a lot of players start to retire, and she hasn't had the results that she's had in the past aside from that week she won IEM and advanced to the Ro8 of GSL. She's probably thinking about her future and wondering how much longer she plans on playing this game. Be fair, she's absolutely not the kind of person who likes to show too much emotion publicly. That doesn't mean she doesn't care. Though you're right that SC2 isn't the only thing on her mind, that's pretty well known given she goes to things like magic tournaments and reportedly practiced by far the least at the Korea house. On the Pylon show, NoRegret basically called her out for not being as good as she thinks she is and needing to practice more, and I think that's more to blame than not caring.
Yeah, I was pretty shocked when that was said. Both that he would reveal that and that she would be so careless(don't know any better word I guess). Well, she's Zerg and I don't like her playstyle, so win-win for me I guess.
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United States97277 Posts
neeb should have canceled the 3rd and took a better defensive spot
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Just finished watching the latest GSL group, what's going on around here? Anything good?
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On June 03 2018 05:07 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 05:04 Zaros wrote:On June 03 2018 05:01 Fango wrote:On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one In general they don't get many viewers unless they let the streamers play it. Guys like Shroud can add 100K by just being there. A couple have gotten huge viewerships without them, but that's mostly due to the ridiculous popularity of the game at the time as the hype built around the tournament. I don't see them ever repeating it. Any stream can get high numbers when there's hype and the event is in the news. It's is a nice concept and I would like to see it suceed, but in terms of quality it's terrible compared to other fps esports. Shroud usually just gets the viewers on his own channel though like dreamhack yesterday he probably had 3x what the actual tournament stream had, twitch rivals he had like 10x more, I remember some online tournaments he got 150k the tournament stream had nothing vs that. I think Cologne got 150k as the first event but yeah actual tournament streams not doing anywhere near as well lately. That's my point though. A trash esport that depends on the game being ridiculously hyped and having celebrities playing it to get views probably won't last. Compared to ones that rely on being a good esport.
I wouldn't go so far to say its trash esport, it has potential just difficult how to present it well and shaping the rules so the pro play isn't so passive.
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MaNa's game are always so fun when he's in shape.
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Nice Warp Prism-Disruptor play.
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going to be 0 protoss in the top 4 if Mana wins this series
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On June 03 2018 05:11 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2018 05:07 Fango wrote:On June 03 2018 05:04 Zaros wrote:On June 03 2018 05:01 Fango wrote:On June 03 2018 04:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 03 2018 04:50 geokilla wrote:On June 03 2018 04:46 Uni1987 wrote:
This footage.. I so miss the days when SC2 was pulling over 80k viewers. Hope it returns someday.
Why don't they advertise more that it's free now? It's not going to happen. Team games are more popular. CS:GO, LoL, Dota, PUBG just to name a few. Does PUBG esports actually do well? I know it's a big streaming game but not a big tournament one In general they don't get many viewers unless they let the streamers play it. Guys like Shroud can add 100K by just being there. A couple have gotten huge viewerships without them, but that's mostly due to the ridiculous popularity of the game at the time as the hype built around the tournament. I don't see them ever repeating it. Any stream can get high numbers when there's hype and the event is in the news. It's is a nice concept and I would like to see it suceed, but in terms of quality it's terrible compared to other fps esports. Shroud usually just gets the viewers on his own channel though like dreamhack yesterday he probably had 3x what the actual tournament stream had, twitch rivals he had like 10x more, I remember some online tournaments he got 150k the tournament stream had nothing vs that. I think Cologne got 150k as the first event but yeah actual tournament streams not doing anywhere near as well lately. That's my point though. A trash esport that depends on the game being ridiculously hyped and having celebrities playing it to get views probably won't last. Compared to ones that rely on being a good esport. I wouldn't go so far to say its trash esport, it has potential just difficult how to present it well and shaping the rules so the pro play isn't so passive.
The concept/game has potential. But it's just bad in terms of production, rng components, bugs, rules etc.
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United States97277 Posts
neeb needs photon overcharge
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