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[GSL 2018] Season 1 - Ro32 Group C

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
January 12 2018 09:59 GMT
#1

GSL Season 1


Saturday, Jan 13 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 1/Code S

Streams & Casters


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Format

  • Group Stage #1 (Round of 32): Dual Tournament format.
    Best-of-three.
  • The 4 players of each group are split into two pairs and play each other.
  • The winners of these matches will then face each other in the Winner’s match.
  • The victor places first in the group and advances to the Round of 16.
  • The losers of the initial matches face each other in the Loser’s match.
  • The loser places fourth in the group, and is eliminated from Code S
  • They may re-qualify through next season's qualifier.
  • The loser of the Winner’s match and the winner of the Loser’s match will face each other in a fifth match.
  • The winner gets second place in the group and advances to the Round of 16.
  • The loser places third in the group, and is eliminated from Code S
  • They may re-qualify through next season's qualifier.

Map Pool



Group C


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(Z)Rogue vs (P)Billowy
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(T)aLive vs (Z)Scarlett


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
January 12 2018 09:59 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

Rogue & aLive (29)
 
41%

Scarlett & Rogue (24)
 
34%

Scarlett & aLive (6)
 
8%

aLive & Billowy (5)
 
7%

Rogue & Billowy (5)
 
7%

Billowy & Scarlett (2)
 
3%

71 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): Scarlett & Rogue
(Vote): aLive & Billowy
(Vote): Rogue & aLive
(Vote): Billowy & Scarlett
(Vote): Rogue & Billowy
(Vote): Scarlett & aLive

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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 12 2018 10:07 GMT
#3
2 patchzergs eliminated on a single day, what a group that will be.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 12 2018 10:14 GMT
#4
Gogo Billowy/aLive
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 12 2018 14:09 GMT
#5
(Z)Rogue 2-0 (P)Billowy
(T)aLive 2-1 (Z)Scarlett
(Z)Rogue 2-1 (T)aLive
(P)Billowy 2-0 (Z)Scarlett
(T)aLive 2-1 (P)Billowy

Scarlett wins her requisite one game before folding like a cheap tent.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4939 Posts
January 12 2018 14:18 GMT
#6
I dont know why but I dream about Scareltt beating rogue and taking him out of GSL.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
January 12 2018 14:31 GMT
#7
On January 12 2018 23:18 Argonauta wrote:
I dont know why but I dream about Scareltt beating rogue and taking him out of GSL.

using protoss?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 12 2018 14:39 GMT
#8
Only for games 2, and 3.
kiss kiss fall in love
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
January 12 2018 14:48 GMT
#9
On January 12 2018 23:18 Argonauta wrote:
I dont know why but I dream about Scareltt beating rogue and taking him out of GSL.

I don't know why, but I dream about Scarlett losing half of her army to a nuke and getting knocked out of the GSL.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4939 Posts
January 12 2018 15:04 GMT
#10
On January 12 2018 23:48 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 23:18 Argonauta wrote:
I dont know why but I dream about Scareltt beating rogue and taking him out of GSL.

I don't know why, but I dream about Scarlett losing half of her army to a nuke and getting knocked out of the GSL.


That isn't a dream, that's a VOD
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-12 17:56:57
January 12 2018 17:51 GMT
#11
The real question is how Scarlett will somehow manage to lose despite having a game-winning lead. We've seen moving into nukes, we've seen moving into mines, what will it be this time?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 12 2018 18:28 GMT
#12
Scarlett really should get ro16 at some point. Her matches against Innovation, aLive, and Keen were really convincing (minus the key mistakes).

That being said this group is seriously tough. aLive and Rogue are the clear favourates
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
January 12 2018 18:36 GMT
#13
On January 13 2018 03:28 Fango wrote:
Scarlett really should get ro16 at some point. Her matches against Innovation, aLive, and Keen were really convincing (minus the key mistakes).

That being said this group is seriously tough. aLive and Rogue are the clear favourates

KeeN 2-0'd her and he was probably the worst TvZ player in Code S that season, that's really far off from convincing.

Those key mistakes make all the difference between Ro16 and Ro32, if she can't focus and stop herself from making those, well, she'll probably get stuck in Ro32 for a while longer.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-12 18:54:48
January 12 2018 18:53 GMT
#14
On January 13 2018 03:36 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 03:28 Fango wrote:
Scarlett really should get ro16 at some point. Her matches against Innovation, aLive, and Keen were really convincing (minus the key mistakes).

That being said this group is seriously tough. aLive and Rogue are the clear favourates

KeeN 2-0'd her and he was probably the worst TvZ player in Code S that season, that's really far off from convincing.

Those key mistakes make all the difference between Ro16 and Ro32, if she can't focus and stop herself from making those, well, she'll probably get stuck in Ro32 for a while longer.


In a lot of cases, the difference between ro16 and ro32 isn't stupid throws, it's a difference in speed/macro/general skill. Billowy, Creator, Keen etc are examples of those standard ro32 players. Scarlett had series where she legitimately played well Inno and aLive but fell short with some stupid throws. That's why I say she's capable of ro16
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-12 18:58:05
January 12 2018 18:53 GMT
#15
On January 13 2018 03:36 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 03:28 Fango wrote:
Scarlett really should get ro16 at some point. Her matches against Innovation, aLive, and Keen were really convincing (minus the key mistakes).

That being said this group is seriously tough. aLive and Rogue are the clear favourates

KeeN 2-0'd her and he was probably the worst TvZ player in Code S that season, that's really far off from convincing.

Those key mistakes make all the difference between Ro16 and Ro32, if she can't focus and stop herself from making those, well, she'll probably get stuck in Ro32 for a while longer.

Well, she played three macro games against aLive in Season 1, and gave a pretty good showing, but made some key mistakes (attacking without her BLs) which cost her the series. In Season 2 she lost the first game straight-up but was in a good position until The Nuke™ happened in the second. In Season 3, Inno was playing super sloppy and far from his best–he threw away three full medivacs in the first game, didn't scout at all and had the wrong comp in the second, etc.

So I'd rate Scarlett's ZvT as good but not great; she's nowhere close to Rogue or Dark, but if she can avoid making key mistakes like she did in all three seasons last year (hardly a given) then she can make it to the Ro16. But I agree with Elentos–those key mistakes are exactly what distinguishes a Ro32 player from a Ro16 one. And thus far, Scarlett hasn't shown that she's worthy of the Ro16.

On January 13 2018 03:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 03:36 Elentos wrote:
On January 13 2018 03:28 Fango wrote:
Scarlett really should get ro16 at some point. Her matches against Innovation, aLive, and Keen were really convincing (minus the key mistakes).

That being said this group is seriously tough. aLive and Rogue are the clear favourates

KeeN 2-0'd her and he was probably the worst TvZ player in Code S that season, that's really far off from convincing.

Those key mistakes make all the difference between Ro16 and Ro32, if she can't focus and stop herself from making those, well, she'll probably get stuck in Ro32 for a while longer.


In a lot of cases, the difference between ro16 and ro32 isn't stupid throws, it's a difference in speed/macro/general skill. Billowy, Creator, Keen etc are examples of those standard ro32 players. Scarlett had series where she legitimately played well Inno and aLive but fell short. That's why I say she's capable of ro16

In a lot of cases, but not Scarlett's. And I would argue that making stupid throws is a worse problem to have than insufficient speed or macro, because those things have pretty obvious fixes–just practice more. Stupid throws on the other hand are a nebulous judgement/mental issue, and not so easily solved.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-12 19:11:52
January 12 2018 19:07 GMT
#16
On January 13 2018 03:53 pvsnp wrote:In a lot of cases, but not Scarlett's. And I would argue that making stupid throws is a worse problem to have than insufficient speed or macro, because those things have pretty obvious fixes–just practice more. Stupid throws on the other hand are a nebulous judgement/mental issue, and not so easily solved.


I disagree, stupid/random throws are something that don't happen every game. With enough attempts you'll get lucky and not make them for a series or two. The mistakes she made were random/isolated, she doesn't make them every series.

Having lesser skill in general is not something you can get past with more attempts, you actually have to improve (hence why some players never get past ro32)

edit: my point is just that, while Inno was playing below his normal level, almost beating the literal champ should indicate someone is capable of reaching the ro16 at least. I'd apply the same logic to her beating aLive in S1 as well. With every other player that never makes ro16, it's down to general skill being lower. With Scarlett she keeps being about to win, and then throwing it
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 12 2018 19:23 GMT
#17
On January 13 2018 04:07 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 03:53 pvsnp wrote:In a lot of cases, but not Scarlett's. And I would argue that making stupid throws is a worse problem to have than insufficient speed or macro, because those things have pretty obvious fixes–just practice more. Stupid throws on the other hand are a nebulous judgement/mental issue, and not so easily solved.


I disagree, stupid/random throws are something that don't happen every game. With enough attempts you'll get lucky and not make them for a series or two. The mistakes she made were random/isolated, she doesn't make them every series.

Having lesser skill in general is not something you can get past with more attempts, you actually have to improve (hence why some players never get past ro32)

edit: my point is just that, while Inno was playing below his normal level, almost beating the literal champ should indicate someone is capable of reaching the ro16 at least. I'd apply the same logic to her beating aLive in S1 as well. With every other player that never makes ro16, it's down to general skill being lower. With Scarlett she keeps being about to win, and then throwing it


I use that logic to try to convince myself that soO will win a GSL one day.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-12 19:37:18
January 12 2018 19:36 GMT
#18
On January 13 2018 04:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 04:07 Fango wrote:
On January 13 2018 03:53 pvsnp wrote:In a lot of cases, but not Scarlett's. And I would argue that making stupid throws is a worse problem to have than insufficient speed or macro, because those things have pretty obvious fixes–just practice more. Stupid throws on the other hand are a nebulous judgement/mental issue, and not so easily solved.


I disagree, stupid/random throws are something that don't happen every game. With enough attempts you'll get lucky and not make them for a series or two. The mistakes she made were random/isolated, she doesn't make them every series.

Having lesser skill in general is not something you can get past with more attempts, you actually have to improve (hence why some players never get past ro32)

edit: my point is just that, while Inno was playing below his normal level, almost beating the literal champ should indicate someone is capable of reaching the ro16 at least. I'd apply the same logic to her beating aLive in S1 as well. With every other player that never makes ro16, it's down to general skill being lower. With Scarlett she keeps being about to win, and then throwing it


I use that logic to try to convince myself that soO will win a GSL one day.


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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 12 2018 22:11 GMT
#19
To set an alarm or not to set an alarm. That is the question.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 12 2018 22:18 GMT
#20
On January 13 2018 07:11 Musicus wrote:
To set an alarm or not to set an alarm. That is the question.


It might be your last chance to see Rogue the patch-zerg win a game. Blizzard's finishing him off at the end of the month
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