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That's a top-tier banner.
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I like the art. Very.....subtle.
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I was thinking about doing something productive today, good thing there is a 200 players brackets for me to watch instead 
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Tonight is going to be a bloodbath.
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What a rollercoaster of a series.
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So he only has to beat Zanster to get to the next stage. wow.
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What did Rotti do? Was watching Indy's stream :F
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On January 06 2018 03:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
What did Rotti do? Was watching Indy's stream :F
just rotterdam style double SG phoenix, beat TLO
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On January 06 2018 03:31 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2018 03:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
What did Rotti do? Was watching Indy's stream :F just rotterdam style double SG phoenix, beat TLO
A man.
A legend.
A myth.
ROTTI
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So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!!
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On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!!
Rotterdam in Challenger HYPE
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On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!!
Yes.
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Rotti vs TLO is a true test of creativity.
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On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!!
What is wrong?
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On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!!
If Rail can beat TY on KR from Europe, Zanster should do okay from Korea to EU.
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On January 06 2018 03:34 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!! What is wrong?
Nothing, this is a delightful sequence of events.
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On January 06 2018 03:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!! If Rail can beat TY on KR from Europe, Zanster should do okay from Korea to EU.
But Rotti is the Protoss in this equation, he'd probably beat Zanster with phoenix/DT cross server 
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Nerchio is wrecking Dayshii so hard he will probably blame protoss for this loss somehow x]
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On January 06 2018 03:37 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2018 03:34 Aeromi wrote:On January 06 2018 03:33 Ej_ wrote:
So the last opponent of Rotterdam tonight is Zanster playing from Korea.
???!?!?!?!?!!!!! What is wrong? Nothing, this is a delightful sequence of events.
I do not understand what you want to say.
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If there wasn't a hole in the secondary wall...
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Yeah there was no chance that Zanster was gonna play macro from KR.
GGs, good run Rotti!
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TLO losing to Rotti and Lambo losing to Ziggy's 6 rax reaper, German Zergs lol
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On January 06 2018 04:17 Elentos wrote:TLO losing to Rotti and Lambo losing to Ziggy's 6 rax reaper, German Zergs lol
we're a protoss nation after all
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all these damned old players, where are you Clem and Reynor....
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On January 06 2018 04:38 the_last_terran1 wrote:
all these damned old players, where are you Clem and Reynor....
Not eligible.
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 souL 1-0  Stephano
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I'd like to sue Snute and Kas, pretty sure that game violated a bunch of human rights.
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On January 07 2018 04:11 Elentos wrote:
I'd like to sue Snute and Kas, pretty sure that game violated a bunch of human rights.
What happened in the game?
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On January 07 2018 04:16 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 04:11 Elentos wrote:
I'd like to sue Snute and Kas, pretty sure that game violated a bunch of human rights. What happened in the game?
Nothing in the first 40 minutes
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On January 07 2018 04:16 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 04:11 Elentos wrote:
I'd like to sue Snute and Kas, pretty sure that game violated a bunch of human rights. What happened in the game?
They played for 50 minutes and 80% of it was nothing.
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On January 07 2018 04:18 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 04:16 Bagration wrote:On January 07 2018 04:11 Elentos wrote:
I'd like to sue Snute and Kas, pretty sure that game violated a bunch of human rights. What happened in the game? They played for 50 minutes and 80% of it was nothing.
In other words a standard Snute game.
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On January 07 2018 04:39 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 04:18 Elentos wrote:On January 07 2018 04:16 Bagration wrote:On January 07 2018 04:11 Elentos wrote:
I'd like to sue Snute and Kas, pretty sure that game violated a bunch of human rights. What happened in the game? They played for 50 minutes and 80% of it was nothing. In other words a standard Snute game.
Way worse. Many of Snute's opponents kill themselves or him much faster, Kas stuck around for 50 minutes.
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Lol uthermal muling snute :D
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On January 07 2018 05:05 Nerchio wrote:
Lol uthermal muling snute :D
It was an accident, but it was a funny one.
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On January 07 2018 05:09 Elentos wrote:It was an accident, but it was a funny one.
Happy accident :D
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Not a big fan of this format for Challenger, it is way too fast. :/
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Showtime pls 
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And people blamed me for whining about Protoss when it was absolutely broken from minute 1 to minute 50 ;d
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On January 07 2018 05:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:How'd Bly beat him?
He beat him in a drawn out macro game (where Showtime played beyond sloppy) and I think he hit a roach/hydra timing in game 2? Wasn't paying much attention to that one.
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On January 07 2018 05:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:How'd Bly beat him?
made hydralisks and lurkers while showtime walked around the map with immortals
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That doesn't sound too bad. Based on the tweet, and based on Bly I was expecting a queen drop or a nydus.
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On January 07 2018 05:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That doesn't sound too bad. Based on the tweet, and based on Bly I was expecting a queen drop or a nydus.
hydralisk is the new adept
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On January 07 2018 05:32 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That doesn't sound too bad. Based on the tweet, and based on Bly I was expecting a queen drop or a nydus. hydralisk is the new adept
"new". It's only been like a year.
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On January 07 2018 05:32 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That doesn't sound too bad. Based on the tweet, and based on Bly I was expecting a queen drop or a nydus. hydralisk is the new adept
I've never seen 2 hydras end up he game before the 4 minute mark before
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On January 07 2018 05:32 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That doesn't sound too bad. Based on the tweet, and based on Bly I was expecting a queen drop or a nydus. hydralisk is the new adept
Hydra is the new Marine, really. Even worse, actually, since mech became standard.
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On January 07 2018 05:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:32 Ej_ wrote:On January 07 2018 05:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That doesn't sound too bad. Based on the tweet, and based on Bly I was expecting a queen drop or a nydus. hydralisk is the new adept I've never seen 2 hydras end up he game before the 4 minute mark before
it's 10 hydras off 51 drones, get on with the times
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We're talking about EU here. They probably don't even know what a PvT is.
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On January 07 2018 05:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:We're talking about EU here. They probably don't even know what a PvT is.
TvP is not uThermal's worst match-up on this patch.
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Fuck yeah Stephano!
Zerg that strong against protoss? Why does Showtime whine?
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On January 07 2018 05:43 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:We're talking about EU here. They probably don't even know what a PvT is. TvP is not uThermal's worst match-up on this patch.
I knew it, goddamn Terrans keeping Marc from winning WCS.
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wow, rematch curse in all it's glory
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On January 07 2018 05:44 Poopi wrote:
Fuck yeah Stephano!
Zerg that strong against protoss? Why does Showtime whine?
Zerg's pretty strong against Protoss, but not sure to what extent. Korean ZvP is pretty different from Foreign ZvP right now, which makes things a bit harder to gauge. Zergs dominating EU isn't anything particularly new.
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On January 07 2018 05:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:44 Poopi wrote:
Fuck yeah Stephano!
Zerg that strong against protoss? Why does Showtime whine? Zerg's pretty strong against Protoss, but not sure to what extent. Korean ZvP is pretty different from Foreign ZvP right now, which makes things a bit harder to gauge. Zergs dominating EU isn't anything particularly new.
We're back in that weird state where Korean Protoss are doing quite well and foreign ones not so much.
Zergs do regularly dominate the EU, but usually there's more than one Protoss that qualifies.
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On January 07 2018 06:30 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 05:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On January 07 2018 05:44 Poopi wrote:
Fuck yeah Stephano!
Zerg that strong against protoss? Why does Showtime whine? Zerg's pretty strong against Protoss, but not sure to what extent. Korean ZvP is pretty different from Foreign ZvP right now, which makes things a bit harder to gauge. Zergs dominating EU isn't anything particularly new. We're back in that weird state where Korean Protoss are doing quite well and foreign ones not so much. Zergs do regularly dominate the EU, but usually there's more than one Protoss that qualifies.
Looking at last year WCS EU qualifier top 8s, there were 3 Protoss for Austin, 2 for Jonkoping, 1 for Valencia, and 1 for Montreal, so it isn't too unusual.
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Foreignerland is Zergland. Nothing changed.
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Wow, that diversity
#WCSsozerg
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On January 07 2018 07:21 VengefulTree wrote:
Wow, that diversity
#WCSsozerg
Not their fault all the good EU non-Zergs retired.
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The only upset was Showtime being eliminated by Bly. However Showtime has been underperforming for the last year or so, therefore even that is relative.
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Can someone explain to me where the drawing are being made for the playoff ? Cause I went looking into the rules
https://wcs.dreamhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/StarCraft-II-WCS-Challenger-Pre-season-Tournament-Ruleset.pdf
and it said that the four first and four second are ranked through their wcs points into 2 groups 1A 1B 2A 2B. And then
1A vs 2B is drawn and 1B vs 2A.
So according to last year wcs liquipedia.net points we have:
1A Elazer Serral
1B Nerchio Uthermal
2A Snute Stephano
2B Bly Harstem
So we should have Elazer vs Bly, Serral vs Harstem, Nerchio vs Snute and Uthermal vs Stephano right?
Did I miss something? In any case even with the rule everything seems very obscure...
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On January 07 2018 08:30 nicolas42 wrote:Can someone explain to me where the drawing are being made for the playoff ? Cause I went looking into the rules https://wcs.dreamhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/StarCraft-II-WCS-Challenger-Pre-season-Tournament-Ruleset.pdfand it said that the four first and four second are ranked through their wcs points into 2 groups 1A 1B 2A 2B. And then 1A vs 2B is drawn and 1B vs 2A. So according to last year wcs liquipedia.net points we have: 1A Elazer Serral 1B Nerchio Uthermal 2A Snute Stephano 2B Bly Harstem So we should have Elazer vs Bly, Serral vs Harstem, Nerchio vs Snute and Uthermal vs Stephano right? Did I miss something? In any case even with the rule everything seems very obscure...
Everything you wrote sounds correct. Maybe they messed up?
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On January 07 2018 08:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2018 08:30 nicolas42 wrote:Can someone explain to me where the drawing are being made for the playoff ? Cause I went looking into the rules https://wcs.dreamhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/StarCraft-II-WCS-Challenger-Pre-season-Tournament-Ruleset.pdfand it said that the four first and four second are ranked through their wcs points into 2 groups 1A 1B 2A 2B. And then 1A vs 2B is drawn and 1B vs 2A. So according to last year wcs liquipedia.net points we have: 1A Elazer Serral 1B Nerchio Uthermal 2A Snute Stephano 2B Bly Harstem So we should have Elazer vs Bly, Serral vs Harstem, Nerchio vs Snute and Uthermal vs Stephano right? Did I miss something? In any case even with the rule everything seems very obscure... Everything you wrote sounds correct. Maybe they messed up?
It seems like they switched harstem and stephano which would lead to the drawing we currently have on liquipedia.
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I would say they swiched Bly and Harstem as theymight play players from group stage in semi-finals, so yes there is something wrong with this.
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On January 07 2018 09:57 Kafka777 wrote:
I would say they swiched Bly and Harstem as theymight play players from group stage in semi-finals, so yes there is something wrong with this.
Yes the rules specify that you don't play against the people in your previous groups, but here I meant that they swapped harstem and stephano from 2A to 2B.
In both cases there is no need for a random draw indeed if:
1A=Elazer Serral
1B=Nerchio uthermal
2A=Snute Stephano
2B= Harstem Bly
Then 1A vs 2B has to give Elazer Bly and Serral harstem (harstem and Elazer same group)
And for the same reason since Snute and uthermal were in the same group you would have Nerchio Snute and uthermal stephano.
Now if you swap stephano and harstem you have 2A Snute harstem and 2B stephano Bly.
And the. 1A vs 2B give Elazer vs stephano and Serral vs Bly ( Stephano and Serral same group)
And 1B vs 2A give Nerchio Snute and uthermal harstem ( again Snute same group as uthermal).
That's my understanding anyway  .
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You are right, but Stephano being 2A is a fluke he is much more secondary 2B ;-)
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So, apparently the bracket was botched, but series were already underway on the botched bracket. Peculiar.
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On January 08 2018 03:40 Soke wrote:
So, apparently the bracket was botched, but series are already under way so...
lol
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It seems that Elazer practiced with Bly for their matches and now they might be forced to play a qualifier with each other. It's getting better and better.
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This is seriously unfair to the players, especially those that may have done preparation for their matches.
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I seriously hope we get an official statement for this.
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On January 08 2018 03:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is seriously unfair to the players, especially those that may have done preparation for their matches.
wardi just said we're getting a delay so they can prepare for new opponents
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On January 08 2018 03:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 03:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is seriously unfair to the players, especially those that may have done preparation for their matches. wardi just said we're getting a delay so they can prepare for new opponents
2 hour delay boys.
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The brackets were obviously wrong since yesterday and nobody official bothered looking at them until Stephano said something
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On January 08 2018 03:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 03:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
This is seriously unfair to the players, especially those that may have done preparation for their matches. wardi just said we're getting a delay so they can prepare for new opponents
Two hours.
You get two hours to set up, and do all preparation, directly after which you jump into the series.
I don't think this helps that much =/
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Isn't there any official bracket page? Would be rather risky to let players rely on a wiki.
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On January 08 2018 03:59 Azhrak wrote:
Isn't there any official bracket page? Would be rather risky to let players rely on a wiki.
There is a Challonge bracket.
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On January 08 2018 03:59 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 03:59 Azhrak wrote:
Isn't there any official bracket page? Would be rather risky to let players rely on a wiki. There is a Challonge bracket.
Thanks. So the error was in challonge as well?
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Wouldn't be a WCS without a shitshow thrown in there somewhere
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lol is wcs understaffed? it'd be nice to have a checklist for the admins to check off for each step like: do the brackets correctly
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The bracket for the NA qualifier is wrong too...
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Starting EU qualifiers final stage at 10 pm instead of 7 pm is also not fair for players, not everyone can play very well after midnight.
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whats the problem right now?
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contamination is so broken
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mass contaminate. excellent!
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Stephano should have gone bonjwa hosts against mechthermal
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On January 08 2018 06:24 Charoisaur wrote:
contamination is so broken
Hope they look into nerfing it to make the match-up balanced.
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Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff.
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On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff.
#1 player in the world CONFIRMED
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On January 08 2018 06:27 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff. #1 player in the world CONFIRMED
I mean he is the #1 player in the world according to aligulac so who could argue.
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uthermy vs pano game is crazy
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On January 08 2018 06:31 Topin wrote:
uthermy vs pano game is crazy
Ilyes trying to show us that his Caustic Spray is more broken than Serral's Contaminate.
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On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff.
Serral too good
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Serral speedrunning this thing so far. 7 wins in under an hour.
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On January 08 2018 06:31 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 06:27 Shellshock wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff. #1 player in the world CONFIRMED I mean he is the #1 player in the world according to aligulac so who could argue.
in other aligulac news a player reached negative overall rating for the first time ever
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Rough last game for stephano
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Serral continues to dominate
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And a ragequit to top the 3-0.
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That was amazing.
Serral pulls of an epic 25 supply down hold into Nerchio ragequit, sealing Serral's 6-0 (9-0 kek) into the finals.
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On January 08 2018 06:43 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 06:31 D-light wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 Shellshock wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff. #1 player in the world CONFIRMED I mean he is the #1 player in the world according to aligulac so who could argue. in other aligulac news a player reached negative overall rating for the first time ever
WTF
I would have guessed it would have been possible, but not in less than 100 matches.
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PiG is casting if you wanna switch from Wardi's stream.
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On January 08 2018 07:03 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 06:43 Shellshock wrote:On January 08 2018 06:31 D-light wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 Shellshock wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff. #1 player in the world CONFIRMED I mean he is the #1 player in the world according to aligulac so who could argue. in other aligulac news a player reached negative overall rating for the first time ever WTFI would have guessed it would have been possible, but not in less than 100 matches.
I like that they have actually earned $39
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On January 08 2018 07:12 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 07:03 Solar424 wrote:On January 08 2018 06:43 Shellshock wrote:On January 08 2018 06:31 D-light wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 Shellshock wrote:On January 08 2018 06:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Serral beating Harstem in half an hour after beating Bly in twenty five minutes (breaks included). Good stuff. #1 player in the world CONFIRMED I mean he is the #1 player in the world according to aligulac so who could argue. in other aligulac news a player reached negative overall rating for the first time ever WTFI would have guessed it would have been possible, but not in less than 100 matches. I like that they have actually earned $39
From the OSC League participation prizes. And they deserve it for playing in all these events against players much much better than they are.
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On January 08 2018 07:03 Aelendis wrote:
PiG is casting if you wanna switch from Wardi's stream.
Thank you sir
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Finals starting now.
Serral seems really on point today, and Elazer made a few mistakes in last series. I'm thinking Serral takes it.
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On January 08 2018 08:08 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Finals starting now.
Serral seems really on point today, and Elazer made a few mistakes in last series. I'm thinking Serral takes it.
Well this prediction was properly **** XD
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On January 08 2018 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
COMEBACK TRAIN
THE COMEBACK IS REAL
CHOO CHOO
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Serral just couldnt quite Finnish the comeback xDDDDD
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Polish man believed in a thing called roach. Makes sense.
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Damn, GG Elazer! That was a really good series.
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That was entertaining ZvZ for sure, grats to Elazer x]
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On January 08 2018 09:04 intotheheart wrote:
Polish man believed in a thing called roach. Makes sense.
Cheese good unit against tired Finnish boys.
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On January 08 2018 09:04 intotheheart wrote:
Polish man believed in a thing called roach. Makes sense.
Cheese good unit against tired Finnish boys.
What cheese do you mean? Serral was outplayed that's all.
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The quoting is kinda off if I'm honest. But uh.. I liked how Elazer liked going for aggressive strats rather than passive/turtle ones. Makes it a lot more fun to watch.
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On January 08 2018 09:50 Kafka777 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 09:04 intotheheart wrote:
Polish man believed in a thing called roach. Makes sense.
Cheese good unit against tired Finnish boys. What cheese do you mean? Serral was outplayed that's all.
Joking around. He was the worse player in that series who couldn't hold the dedicated pressure well enough.
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If only Elazer was an honorable man that played macro games and noy a no skill abuser :///
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On January 08 2018 17:49 Ej_ wrote:
If only Elazer was an honorable man that played macro games and noy a no skill abuser :///
Elazer ZvZ was 2481, while serral ZvZ was 2911, he had no chance of beating him in a macro game.
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On January 09 2018 03:47 Tyrhanius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2018 17:49 Ej_ wrote:
If only Elazer was an honorable man that played macro games and noy a no skill abuser :/// Elazer ZvZ was 2481, while serral ZvZ was 2911, he had no chance of beating him in a macro game.
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware Aligulac decided the series beforehand
thank god these no skill unfair unhonorable cheeses exist so the clearly inferior players can keep it exciting!
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Only 3 Zergs out of 4? What has Europe come to smh
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On January 09 2018 04:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2018 03:47 Tyrhanius wrote:On January 08 2018 17:49 Ej_ wrote:
If only Elazer was an honorable man that played macro games and noy a no skill abuser :/// Elazer ZvZ was 2481, while serral ZvZ was 2911, he had no chance of beating him in a macro game. Oh sorry, I wasn't aware Aligulac decided the series beforehand thank god these no skill unfair unhonorable cheeses exist so the clearly inferior players can keep it exciting!
Are you being sarcastic?
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