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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 27 2017 22:45 GMT
#1761
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

I hate being that guy but lots of koreans play like shit on the first day due to jetlag.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 27 2017 22:46 GMT
#1762
On October 28 2017 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:44 Shellshock wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:44 Ansibled wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:43 Shellshock wrote:
based on the earlier series Stats is going to get trashed by Special or TY

He gets a day break though.

wow unfair. winners' match should have been today instead of losers'


People have been telling Blizzard that for years.

Presumably it is to build hype for Sunday
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 27 2017 22:46 GMT
#1763
On October 28 2017 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

just a bad day, he'll be fine by sunday. Stats literally can beat anyone, he just needs to remember that and focus.

I certainly hope so but today's performance was really really bad and special showed great play today. If by some off-chance he has to play TY he is the underdog, his style just really doesn't suit him.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 27 2017 22:47 GMT
#1764
On October 28 2017 07:46 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:44 Shellshock wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:44 Ansibled wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:43 Shellshock wrote:
based on the earlier series Stats is going to get trashed by Special or TY

He gets a day break though.

wow unfair. winners' match should have been today instead of losers'


People have been telling Blizzard that for years.

Presumably it is to build hype for Sunday


Of course. But it's still a dumb reason.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 27 2017 22:47 GMT
#1765
On October 28 2017 07:45 Musicus wrote:
Is there region locking in the Overwatch League?

Is the number of Korean players that can play for a NA team limited?


i don't think so? also thank god blizzcon isn't like lol worlds where only 3 korean teams are allowed, can you imagine the shitstorm if only top 3 koreans could go
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 27 2017 22:47 GMT
#1766
On October 28 2017 07:46 leublix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

just a bad day, he'll be fine by sunday. Stats literally can beat anyone, he just needs to remember that and focus.

I certainly hope so but today's performance was really really bad and special showed great play today. If by some off-chance he has to play TY he is the underdog, his style just really doesn't suit him.

On average TY seems to know how to beat Stats, but MajOr? Rematch curse gonna get him good I think (I hope).


Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 27 2017 22:48 GMT
#1767
On October 28 2017 07:41 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Smix is so good, professional, fluent and awesome.


It's nice to see the journey she's made from her first translation jobs.
hundred thousand krouner
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 22:53:44
October 27 2017 22:48 GMT
#1768
On October 28 2017 07:43 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:41 Hider wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:32 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:30 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:27 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:26 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:23 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:22 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:20 Gurbak wrote:
so is the gap closing or are the koreans bad since the end of kespa?

The gap can only be closing, this is the highest skilled era.


*breathes heavily*

On October 28 2017 07:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:21 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

I think he's a top 3 most hated Overwatch commentator.

he's a team manager or something now and in the worst team reveal video ever


Was it worse than that LoL team Siren reveal?

did that one look like an ugandan powerpoint?

Link please.


I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam

I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.


That's not how money laundering works at all. This is 100% legit just terrible investment from people who looks at two factors (a) the growth potential of esports, (b) the playersize of Overwatch. And then you add the potential for regional fans on top of that.

They don't understand that not all games are great to watch and Overwatch has absolutely no growth potential.

If you are a blizzard employee and wants to make a presentation to investors who doesn't know that much about esports, it's really easy to manipulate facts and data and make it seem like a better investment case it is.

(btw revenue share will come from 2021 IIRC correctly).

4 years is an eternity in gaming time. 4 years ago CS:GO was dead in the water and the battle royale genre didn't even exist. Who knows if the league will even exist in 4 years.


True too some extent, but the longevity of games is gradually increasing and investors doesn't really seem to understand how big the uncertainty is when it comes to the future playerbase of games. The risk is definitely enourmous.

LOL seems to maintain a pretty solid playerbase year after year. I wouldn't be surprised to it still having similar numbers in 2021.

When it comes to overwatch, the playerbase is already dwindling. There was this recent reddit thread on comp/overwatch and the discussion was about how the game was doing in their country. And basically all users from all countries stated that the game had declined alot from where it was 1 year ago.

And it does make sense because if you look at a game like OW... doesn't really that much depth. Not that much diversity. And I've seen alot of players make similar remarks about the game, yet never heard anyone say that about dota/lol/csgo.

Hence yes in the context of OW, the game has no future. It will only decline in popularity over time. However, in the future esports games could last 10-20 years.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 27 2017 22:49 GMT
#1769
Poll: should i stay for the zvz?

yea lotv zvz is good (9)
 
82%

it's always sunny is better. (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: should i stay for the zvz?

(Vote): yea lotv zvz is good
(Vote): it's always sunny is better.



The Bomber boy
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 27 2017 22:49 GMT
#1770
On October 28 2017 07:45 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

I hate being that guy but lots of koreans play like shit on the first day due to jetlag.


First time in years I've seen someone reference jetlag unironically.
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 27 2017 22:49 GMT
#1771
On October 28 2017 07:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:46 leublix wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

just a bad day, he'll be fine by sunday. Stats literally can beat anyone, he just needs to remember that and focus.

I certainly hope so but today's performance was really really bad and special showed great play today. If by some off-chance he has to play TY he is the underdog, his style just really doesn't suit him.

On average TY seems to know how to beat Stats, but MajOr? Rematch curse gonna get him good I think (I hope).



I hope so too
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 27 2017 22:49 GMT
#1772
On October 28 2017 07:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:45 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

I hate being that guy but lots of koreans play like shit on the first day due to jetlag.


First time in years I've seen someone reference jetlag unironically.

food poisoning. server lag
The Bomber boy
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 27 2017 22:49 GMT
#1773
Presumably tomorrow the Koreans will perform better because they'll be less jetlagged
very illegal and very uncool
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
390 Posts
October 27 2017 22:50 GMT
#1774
Poor snute. He fought bravely.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 27 2017 22:51 GMT
#1775
On October 28 2017 07:49 Wintex wrote:
Poll: should i stay for the zvz?

yea lotv zvz is good (9)
 
82%

it's always sunny is better. (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: should i stay for the zvz?

(Vote): yea lotv zvz is good
(Vote): it's always sunny is better.




Anything is better than PvZ.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 27 2017 22:51 GMT
#1776
On October 28 2017 07:51 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:49 Wintex wrote:
Poll: should i stay for the zvz?

yea lotv zvz is good (9)
 
82%

it's always sunny is better. (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: should i stay for the zvz?

(Vote): yea lotv zvz is good
(Vote): it's always sunny is better.




Anything is better than PvZ.

ye that match was pretty boring where is my TvZ.
The Bomber boy
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 27 2017 22:51 GMT
#1777
Rogue, you better not fucking lose, or you will be disowned!!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 27 2017 22:52 GMT
#1778
I mean basically everyone but Neeb and Major would be jetlagged. Nerchio and Snute have it just as bad as koreans do.

and look at who won their matches :D
Neosteel Enthusiast
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 27 2017 22:52 GMT
#1779
I mean they still get 14k even if they don't win a single game.
very illegal and very uncool
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 27 2017 22:52 GMT
#1780
On October 28 2017 07:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I mean basically everyone but Neeb and Major would be jetlagged. Nerchio and Snute have it just as bad as koreans do.

and look at who won their matches :D

Jetlagged Koreans > jetlagged Europeans
very illegal and very uncool
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