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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
October 27 2017 22:41 GMT
#1741
On October 28 2017 07:37 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:35 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:32 The_Templar wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:32 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:30 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:27 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:26 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:23 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:22 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:20 Gurbak wrote:
so is the gap closing or are the koreans bad since the end of kespa?

The gap can only be closing, this is the highest skilled era.


*breathes heavily*

On October 28 2017 07:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:21 Wintex wrote:
[quote]
he's a team manager or something now and in the worst team reveal video ever


Was it worse than that LoL team Siren reveal?

did that one look like an ugandan powerpoint?

Link please.


I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam

I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.

Is there anywhere I can read about it?

Here's Richard Lewis (big CS:GO personality) talking about it

Basically if the league dies some very rich people could stay away from esports for a decade or more, and some esports organizations like Immortals could go bankrupt.

of all people you want to listen to, and you pick RL. naw man come on.

I watched the video the other day and it was the first thing that came to mind to explain the situation.
The point still stands: the only people buying into the league are billionaires who are already established in other sports franchises (Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Stan Kroenke of the LA Rams, Jeff Wilpon of the New York Mets) and already established esports teams like Cloud 9, Immortals, and NRG. If the league fails, the billionaires lose their $20 million and write off esports for another decade, and the smaller esports teams could go bankrupt, since they basically bet their futures on the league succeeding.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4148 Posts
October 27 2017 22:41 GMT
#1742
Smix is so good, professional, fluent and awesome.
Drone is a way of living
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 22:44:12
October 27 2017 22:41 GMT
#1743
On October 28 2017 07:32 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:30 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:27 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:26 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:23 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:22 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:20 Gurbak wrote:
so is the gap closing or are the koreans bad since the end of kespa?

The gap can only be closing, this is the highest skilled era.


*breathes heavily*

On October 28 2017 07:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:21 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:18 usopsama wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:11 Zzzapper wrote:
[quote]
Huk was that guy when he was on Liquid, not EG

Does Huk still have top 3 control?


I think he's a top 3 most hated Overwatch commentator.

he's a team manager or something now and in the worst team reveal video ever


Was it worse than that LoL team Siren reveal?

did that one look like an ugandan powerpoint?

Link please.

https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/923580840340111367

I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam

I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.


That's not how money laundering works at all. This is 100% legit just terrible investment from people who looks at two factors (a) the growth potential of esports, (b) the playersize of Overwatch. And then you add the potential for regional fans on top of that.

They don't understand that not all games are great to watch and Overwatch has absolutely no growth potential.

If you are a blizzard employee and wants to make a presentation to investors who doesn't know that much about esports, it's really easy to manipulate facts and data and make it seem like a better investment case it is.

This is similar to the whole Azubu situation. It wasn't money laundering, but just a terrible investment. Investors are betting on the idea that this could be the new NBA.

I am sure that 14 months ago Blizzard thought Overwatch esports had more potential than it did.

(btw revenue share will come from 2021 IIRC correctly).

Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 27 2017 22:41 GMT
#1744
On October 28 2017 07:40 Gurbak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:39 Wintex wrote:
ok calm down guys remember that stats is 10x the player neeb is.

like rogue

haha relevant information
The Bomber boy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 27 2017 22:41 GMT
#1745
why did people hate that HuK video? seemed fine to me
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 27 2017 22:41 GMT
#1746
Crazy last game. Not the greatest performance by either player but at this stage it's probably to be expected.

The crazy back and forth with ground armies is also so much more fun to watch than max out no-attack turtling.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 27 2017 22:42 GMT
#1747
On October 28 2017 07:41 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Smix is so good, professional, fluent and awesome.

seems like she was in a hurry though, I guess they are behind schedule
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 27 2017 22:42 GMT
#1748
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 22:43:16
October 27 2017 22:42 GMT
#1749
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 27 2017 22:43 GMT
#1750
based on the earlier series Stats is going to get trashed by Special or TY
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 27 2017 22:43 GMT
#1751
On October 28 2017 07:41 Shellshock wrote:
why did people hate that HuK video? seemed fine to me

I missed it, what's the huk video?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
October 27 2017 22:43 GMT
#1752
On October 28 2017 07:41 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:32 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:30 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:27 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:26 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:23 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:22 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:20 Gurbak wrote:
so is the gap closing or are the koreans bad since the end of kespa?

The gap can only be closing, this is the highest skilled era.


*breathes heavily*

On October 28 2017 07:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:21 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:18 usopsama wrote:
[quote]
Does Huk still have top 3 control?


I think he's a top 3 most hated Overwatch commentator.

he's a team manager or something now and in the worst team reveal video ever


Was it worse than that LoL team Siren reveal?

did that one look like an ugandan powerpoint?

Link please.

https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/923580840340111367

I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam

I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.


That's not how money laundering works at all. This is 100% legit just terrible investment from people who looks at two factors (a) the growth potential of esports, (b) the playersize of Overwatch. And then you add the potential for regional fans on top of that.

They don't understand that not all games are great to watch and Overwatch has absolutely no growth potential.

If you are a blizzard employee and wants to make a presentation to investors who doesn't know that much about esports, it's really easy to manipulate facts and data and make it seem like a better investment case it is.

(btw revenue share will come from 2021 IIRC correctly).

4 years is an eternity in gaming time. 4 years ago CS:GO was dead in the water and the battle royale genre didn't even exist. Who knows if the league will even exist in 4 years.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 27 2017 22:43 GMT
#1753
Assuming today was an off day, Stats will probably still advance. But who knows.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 27 2017 22:44 GMT
#1754
On October 28 2017 07:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Stats wins without dropping a map from here.


I wish I shared your certainty because Stats certainly hasn't given us any reason to believe in him today.

just a bad day, he'll be fine by sunday. Stats literally can beat anyone, he just needs to remember that and focus.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 27 2017 22:44 GMT
#1755
On October 28 2017 07:41 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:37 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:35 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:32 The_Templar wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:32 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:30 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:27 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:26 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:23 Wintex wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:22 Morbidius wrote:
[quote]
The gap can only be closing, this is the highest skilled era.


*breathes heavily*

On October 28 2017 07:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

Was it worse than that LoL team Siren reveal?

did that one look like an ugandan powerpoint?

Link please.

https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/923580840340111367

I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam

I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.

Is there anywhere I can read about it?

Here's Richard Lewis (big CS:GO personality) talking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZdHDsxykQ8
Basically if the league dies some very rich people could stay away from esports for a decade or more, and some esports organizations like Immortals could go bankrupt.

of all people you want to listen to, and you pick RL. naw man come on.

I watched the video the other day and it was the first thing that came to mind to explain the situation.
The point still stands: the only people buying into the league are billionaires who are already established in other sports franchises (Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Stan Kroenke of the LA Rams, Jeff Wilpon of the New York Mets) and already established esports teams like Cloud 9, Immortals, and NRG. If the league fails, the billionaires lose their $20 million and write off esports for another decade, and the smaller esports teams could go bankrupt, since they basically bet their futures on the league succeeding.

I have as much faith in OWL as him, but I also thought league would become boring for people past season 2/3.

The game needs a few changes but with good observing it's probably fine. people complaining about skill caps etc should watch how crazy some players are. I do agree that blizzard has to stop fucking the balance and allow actual professionals judge what is toxic for the competitive game. Some stuff is literally Necrophos levels of bullshit.
The Bomber boy
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 27 2017 22:44 GMT
#1756
On October 28 2017 07:43 Shellshock wrote:
based on the earlier series Stats is going to get trashed by Special or TY

He gets a day break though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 27 2017 22:44 GMT
#1757
On October 28 2017 07:44 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:43 Shellshock wrote:
based on the earlier series Stats is going to get trashed by Special or TY

He gets a day break though.

wow unfair. winners' match should have been today instead of losers'
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
October 27 2017 22:45 GMT
#1758
On October 28 2017 07:41 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Smix is so good, professional, fluent and awesome.

Sometimes.
why even
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 27 2017 22:45 GMT
#1759
Is there region locking in the Overwatch League?

Is the number of Korean players that can play for a NA team limited?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 27 2017 22:45 GMT
#1760
On October 28 2017 07:44 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:44 Ansibled wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:43 Shellshock wrote:
based on the earlier series Stats is going to get trashed by Special or TY

He gets a day break though.

wow unfair. winners' match should have been today instead of losers'


People have been telling Blizzard that for years.
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