On October 28 2017 07:20 Gurbak wrote: so is the gap closing or are the koreans bad since the end of kespa?
The gap can only be closing, this is the highest skilled era.
*breathes heavily*
On October 28 2017 07:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 07:21 Wintex wrote: [quote] he's a team manager or something now and in the worst team reveal video ever
Was it worse than that LoL team Siren reveal?
did that one look like an ugandan powerpoint?
Link please.
I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam
I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.
Is there anywhere I can read about it?
Here's Richard Lewis (big CS:GO personality) talking about it
Basically if the league dies some very rich people could stay away from esports for a decade or more, and some esports organizations like Immortals could go bankrupt.
of all people you want to listen to, and you pick RL. naw man come on.
I watched the video the other day and it was the first thing that came to mind to explain the situation. The point still stands: the only people buying into the league are billionaires who are already established in other sports franchises (Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Stan Kroenke of the LA Rams, Jeff Wilpon of the New York Mets) and already established esports teams like Cloud 9, Immortals, and NRG. If the league fails, the billionaires lose their $20 million and write off esports for another decade, and the smaller esports teams could go bankrupt, since they basically bet their futures on the league succeeding.
I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam
I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.
That's not how money laundering works at all. This is 100% legit just terrible investment from people who looks at two factors (a) the growth potential of esports, (b) the playersize of Overwatch. And then you add the potential for regional fans on top of that.
They don't understand that not all games are great to watch and Overwatch has absolutely no growth potential.
If you are a blizzard employee and wants to make a presentation to investors who doesn't know that much about esports, it's really easy to manipulate facts and data and make it seem like a better investment case it is.
This is similar to the whole Azubu situation. It wasn't money laundering, but just a terrible investment. Investors are betting on the idea that this could be the new NBA.
I am sure that 14 months ago Blizzard thought Overwatch esports had more potential than it did.
(btw revenue share will come from 2021 IIRC correctly).
I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam
I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.
That's not how money laundering works at all. This is 100% legit just terrible investment from people who looks at two factors (a) the growth potential of esports, (b) the playersize of Overwatch. And then you add the potential for regional fans on top of that.
They don't understand that not all games are great to watch and Overwatch has absolutely no growth potential.
If you are a blizzard employee and wants to make a presentation to investors who doesn't know that much about esports, it's really easy to manipulate facts and data and make it seem like a better investment case it is.
(btw revenue share will come from 2021 IIRC correctly).
4 years is an eternity in gaming time. 4 years ago CS:GO was dead in the water and the battle royale genre didn't even exist. Who knows if the league will even exist in 4 years.
I haven't followed it closely but the whole Overwatch League story is so bizzarre it almost sounds like a scam
I'm not convinced it isn't a money laundering scheme. $20 million for a brand new league with no revenue sharing is absurd.
Is there anywhere I can read about it?
Here's Richard Lewis (big CS:GO personality) talking about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZdHDsxykQ8 Basically if the league dies some very rich people could stay away from esports for a decade or more, and some esports organizations like Immortals could go bankrupt.
of all people you want to listen to, and you pick RL. naw man come on.
I watched the video the other day and it was the first thing that came to mind to explain the situation. The point still stands: the only people buying into the league are billionaires who are already established in other sports franchises (Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots, Stan Kroenke of the LA Rams, Jeff Wilpon of the New York Mets) and already established esports teams like Cloud 9, Immortals, and NRG. If the league fails, the billionaires lose their $20 million and write off esports for another decade, and the smaller esports teams could go bankrupt, since they basically bet their futures on the league succeeding.
I have as much faith in OWL as him, but I also thought league would become boring for people past season 2/3.
The game needs a few changes but with good observing it's probably fine. people complaining about skill caps etc should watch how crazy some players are. I do agree that blizzard has to stop fucking the balance and allow actual professionals judge what is toxic for the competitive game. Some stuff is literally Necrophos levels of bullshit.
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