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China6329 Posts
You know the drill.
Lineup INnoVation, TY, GuMiho, TIME, ByuN, aLive Dark, soO, Solar, Impact, iAsonu, Elazer, Rogue, Serral Stats, herO, Classic, Zest, Dear, Hurricane
Format
5 man round robin group, matches are best of 2 (yes two).
Ties are decided first by head to head results then by best of 1 tiebreakers.
1st place finishers advance to Ro8.
2nd and 3rd place finishers to Ro12.
Playoffs are single elimination, best of 5 except finals which will be best of 7.
Latest ladder map pool.
Prize pool
1st: $4000
2nd: $2000
3rd-4th: $1000
5th-8th: $500
Dates
Starting October 3rd.
Group stage: October 3rd - 6th
Playoffs: October 11th-13th
Streams
Chinese: http://www.douyu.com/scboy
English: https://www.twitch.tv/tenshisc2
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Nice to see round robin groups, always thought they were better than typical GSL format
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On September 22 2017 03:06 Fango wrote:
Nice to see round robin groups, always thought they were better than typical GSL format
Have to agree, although I imagine the reason why a lot of tournaments adopted the GSL group format over the years has to do mostly with time and logistics constraints.
Worst case scenario, it saves you having to have one extra match.
Best case scenario, it saves that + any hassle whatsoever that would be associated with tiebreakers.
At the same time despite their disruption of tournament scheduling and work hours, tiebreakers can be a lot of fun to watch when it results in extra matches being played.
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Italy3400 Posts
...since the new topic...
Poll: Group of Death?Group A (19) 54% Did I already say Group A? (12) 34% Group B (4) 11% Group C (0) 0% Group D (0) 0% 35 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D
(Vote): Did I already say Group A?
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I hope TY will show us some counter to Hydra Bane with Bio 
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The group A round robin is like SSL Premier level lol
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Group A will be such a bloodbath. Group B is Inno laughing all the way to first place. Groups C and D seem pretty normal.
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China6329 Posts
Also #3 has been confirmed in December with new balance changes.
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Italy3400 Posts
On September 23 2017 04:43 digmouse wrote:
Also #3 has been confirmed in December with new balance changes.
yay!!
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On September 23 2017 04:43 digmouse wrote:
Also #3 has been confirmed in December with new balance changes.
Upset if Cure isnt invited
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On September 23 2017 05:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
China saving sc2
Is not China, just SCboys (Xiaose & F91) , and for most of us Chinese who watch the game hardly play game (for example me and my friends around, starcraft is tooooo difficult, actually I only play cooperation mode for fun), what we like is the way the SCboy commentating the game. It more fun to watch than to play : )
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is.
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On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is.
...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that...
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On September 22 2017 12:14 pvsnp wrote:
Group A will be such a bloodbath. Group B is Inno laughing all the way to first place. Groups C and D seem pretty normal.
Laughing all the way to defeat at Serral's hand?
Binary humor..
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On September 27 2017 06:14 CynicalDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is. ...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that...
LOL, actually the reason that GSL forbid their cast is that another Chinese group (called “电竞哥斯拉“ from huomaoTV) bought the GSL Chinese cast copyright for more than 300K CNY( SCboy tried to buy the copyright at this price but failed). Thanks to huomaoTV, we now have more tournaments 
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On September 28 2017 13:23 tirpitz.me wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 06:14 CynicalDeath wrote:On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is. ...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that... LOL, actually the reason that GSL forbid their cast is that another Chinese group (called “电竞哥斯拉“ from huomaoTV) bought the GSL Chinese cast copyright for more than 300K CNY( SCboy tried to buy the copyright at this price but failed). Thanks to huomaoTV, we now have more tournaments
long live huomaoTV!
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On September 28 2017 16:18 CynicalDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2017 13:23 tirpitz.me wrote:On September 27 2017 06:14 CynicalDeath wrote:On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is. ...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that... LOL, actually the reason that GSL forbid their cast is that another Chinese group (called “电竞哥斯拉“ from huomaoTV) bought the GSL Chinese cast copyright for more than 300K CNY( SCboy tried to buy the copyright at this price but failed). Thanks to huomaoTV, we now have more tournaments long live huomaoTV!
The benefit of having a still heavily competitive video game streaming market.
Twitch and Youtube almost dominate things globally, while in China there are quite a few big video/stream platforming competing for shares right now. Huomao, Douyu and PandaTV all have some investment on sc2.
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On September 27 2017 06:48 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2017 12:14 pvsnp wrote:
Group A will be such a bloodbath. Group B is Inno laughing all the way to first place. Groups C and D seem pretty normal.
Laughing all the way to defeat at Serral's hand? Binary humor..
Laughing at the idea of Serral being able to beat him.
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On September 28 2017 13:23 tirpitz.me wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 06:14 CynicalDeath wrote:On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is. ...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that... LOL, actually the reason that GSL forbid their cast is that another Chinese group (called “电竞哥斯拉“ from huomaoTV) bought the GSL Chinese cast copyright for more than 300K CNY( SCboy tried to buy the copyright at this price but failed). Thanks to huomaoTV, we now have more tournaments Very interesting thanks for sharing the insight!
Coliseum HYPE!!! Rooting for ByuN like always!
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On September 28 2017 16:18 CynicalDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2017 13:23 tirpitz.me wrote:On September 27 2017 06:14 CynicalDeath wrote:On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is. ...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that... LOL, actually the reason that GSL forbid their cast is that another Chinese group (called “电竞哥斯拉“ from huomaoTV) bought the GSL Chinese cast copyright for more than 300K CNY( SCboy tried to buy the copyright at this price but failed). Thanks to huomaoTV, we now have more tournaments long live huomaoTV!
However, 电竞哥斯拉 is SCboy's arch nemesis 
To be specific, Xiaose does not get along with their leader, bengo.
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China6329 Posts
On September 28 2017 13:23 tirpitz.me wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2017 06:14 CynicalDeath wrote:On September 26 2017 21:53 tirpitz.me wrote:
The reason SCboy holding this tournament is that GSL and SSL forbid them from commentating the game and the SCboy have less game to commentate. The SCboys thinks it is cheaper to hold a online one, so here it is. ...I know it may sound bad and/or selfish but if the "revenge" for not being allowed to cast the GSLs in chinese is they decide to organize and run two (and probably three it seems) 5-10k online tournaments with such lineups I'm pretty ok with that... LOL, actually the reason that GSL forbid their cast is that another Chinese group (called “电竞哥斯拉“ from huomaoTV) bought the GSL Chinese cast copyright for more than 300K CNY( SCboy tried to buy the copyright at this price but failed). Thanks to huomaoTV, we now have more tournaments
They are just casters, huomao themselves bought quite a lot of exclusive broadcasting rights, like the whole SPOTV SC2 line up and IEM.
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20min game, full ground army, still 0 up ground weapon for dear
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China6329 Posts
I can't believe that worked for Dear LMAO.
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My first thought : "ez hold for Solar"
Then, no target fire on two archons with less than 20 hp+shield left etc ...
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One day TY will understand the value of scouting.
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Wow what a terrible game for TY
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That was how we want to see TY play
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China6329 Posts
Stats and TY are already out what.
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All of Splyce is gonna be eliminated in the end or what
EDIT : oh i'm dumb, top 3 goes through
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So quick question, if one player goes 2 wins, 2 losses and another goes 1 win, 3 draws; whose score is considered better?
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China6329 Posts
On October 04 2017 01:16 Elentos wrote:
So quick question, if one player goes 2 wins, 2 losses and another goes 1 win, 3 draws; whose score is considered better?
I'm not even sure that scenario is possible.
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On October 04 2017 04:23 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 01:16 Elentos wrote:
So quick question, if one player goes 2 wins, 2 losses and another goes 1 win, 3 draws; whose score is considered better? I'm not even sure that scenario is possible.
Well, Dark beats Solar and TY, but loses to Stats and Dear. Dear draws with Solar, Stats and TY. Who has the better spot, Dark or Dear?
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On October 04 2017 04:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 04:23 digmouse wrote:On October 04 2017 01:16 Elentos wrote:
So quick question, if one player goes 2 wins, 2 losses and another goes 1 win, 3 draws; whose score is considered better? I'm not even sure that scenario is possible. Well, Dark beats Solar and TY, but loses to Stats and Dear. Dear draws with Solar, Stats and TY. Who has the better spot, Dark or Dear?
Hmm, I guess it is decided by wins? Map score would be 4-4 vs 5-3.
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On October 04 2017 04:50 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 04:41 Elentos wrote:On October 04 2017 04:23 digmouse wrote:On October 04 2017 01:16 Elentos wrote:
So quick question, if one player goes 2 wins, 2 losses and another goes 1 win, 3 draws; whose score is considered better? I'm not even sure that scenario is possible. Well, Dark beats Solar and TY, but loses to Stats and Dear. Dear draws with Solar, Stats and TY. Who has the better spot, Dark or Dear? Hmm, I guess it is decided by wins? Map score would be 4-4 vs 5-3.
Dark did not lose to Dear, he tied with Dear therefore Dear is 2nd
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黄金周 is an odd time to schedule a tournament. It's Chuseok for Koreans too.
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On October 04 2017 04:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 04:23 digmouse wrote:On October 04 2017 01:16 Elentos wrote:
So quick question, if one player goes 2 wins, 2 losses and another goes 1 win, 3 draws; whose score is considered better? I'm not even sure that scenario is possible. Well, Dark beats Solar and TY, but loses to Stats and Dear. Dear draws with Solar, Stats and TY. Who has the better spot, Dark or Dear?
Actually win a set does not means 3 point, 2-0 gives you 2 points and 1-1 gives 1, so it's basically only how many single maps you won that matters. If a tie, then check head to head result, if still a tie, then a bo1 tie breaker match will be played.
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On October 04 2017 12:53 pvsnp wrote:
黄金周 is an odd time to schedule a tournament. It's Chuseok for Koreans too.
It's the second longest national holiday in China so viewership should be good
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TY and Stats O.O
Maybe they are already in Blizzcon mode
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Go INno and Serral for today
Second game between INno and Impact was good
also was a great second game between Bogus and Hurricane, that's how we should treat every greedy protoss !
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Is Hurricane the best protoss?
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Looks like Inno advances in first
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On October 05 2017 01:55 Shathe wrote:
Serral not looking good
just hiding strats
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are there any VODs of these games somewhere online in case i missed the stream?
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Let's go Classic and Elazer
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On October 05 2017 19:49 inken wrote:
are there any VODs of these games somewhere online in case i missed the stream?
https://www.twitch.tv/tenshisc2/videos/all
Tenshi's channel should have the VODs but not cut into individual matches.
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SCVs vs banelings, haven't seen that b4
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On October 05 2017 20:24 Mun_Su wrote:
Rogue will be first
looks like Classic is gonna be first
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lol Byun is no show, so Classic is first
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wtf Byun? 
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is byun gonna fade into oblivion once again?
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On October 05 2017 22:44 Clazziquai10 wrote:is byun gonna fade into oblivion once again?
If so I'm afraid next time he shows up sc2 would be dead already
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On October 05 2017 22:48 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2017 22:44 Clazziquai10 wrote:is byun gonna fade into oblivion once again? If so I'm afraid next time he shows up sc2 would be dead already
Then he'll be the one man army... with no battles to fight 
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ByuN dodging foreigners like he dodged Blizzcon
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On October 05 2017 19:49 inken wrote:
are there any VODs of these games somewhere online in case i missed the stream?
If u do not mind language issues. There are VODs from SCboy at bilibili.com Like http://www.bilibili.com/video/av15087009
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SKT1 will be first of all groups
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so Zest ties with Gumiho, not bad
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Australia18228 Posts
soO beating GuMiho... don't give me false hope again
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lol all ex-SKT T1 players are first
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On October 07 2017 01:09 AzAlexZ wrote:
lol all ex-SKT T1 players are first
SKT best KT
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lol and Rogue vs herO for the 3rd time this year lol
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On October 07 2017 01:09 CynicalDeath wrote:SKT best KT
forever and always
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Gumigod's mech is so fun to watch no matter what the result is.
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I don't understand how Solar just lost to Patience... Solar got completely outplayed the whole series.
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On October 11 2017 22:44 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how Solar just lost to Patience... Solar got completely outplayed the whole series.
Solar has struggled against protoss all year. Shame because his ZvT is actually incredible,
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wow dark gumi is turning out to be a great series, anybody else watching this g5?
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It was an excellent series. Gumigod played really well, and exchanged well on all engagements, but Dark's economy seemed to withstand all the blows. Can we now complain about how OP a tier 3 zerg is?
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watching the games from Dark's FPVOD, I think a lot of it is how expendable his bases are. Literally before a hatch dies he's already queued up an expansion on the other side of the map, and he almost never does a head on engagement (at least in G5, missed the earlier games).
Could this be better countered by leaving more libs at home? Dark sacrificed 5 ultras on a PF + lib + tank and didn't even kill the PF or lib, think Dark's entire gameplan is to do damage at all costs so seems like doing more of this defensive play could work better?
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On October 12 2017 22:37 yubo56 wrote:
watching the games from Dark's FPVOD, I think a lot of it is how expendable his bases are.
How did you get his first person view?
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Just tune in to see a thousand adepts shade into INno natural, gotta love herO.
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One of the worst engagements I've ever seen
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Catallena is probably my favourate map right now. Not sure about the balance, but I always enjoy games on it. Huge open spaces for engagements, no free 3rd (not compared to other lotv maps at least), and spread out bases. But so many cheeses/pushes are still viable
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That game 4... That build belongs in the Book of Protoss Bullshit.
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hahahah
herO's game is salt inducing as always
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I used to like herO back in HotS but these days I can't even watch his games, they're so disgusting. At least sOs is creative with his cheese.
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On October 13 2017 01:05 pvsnp wrote:
I used to like herO back in HotS but these days I can't even watch his games, they're so disgusting. At least sOs is creative with his cheese.
I never liked herO tbh. He doesn't have the entertainment factor of sOs or Has's cheese. That and he seems to be the protoss who exploits balance issues the most (like blink allins, adept pheonix etc). He always feels undeserving when he wins
(His latest supertournament run showed some good games though)
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On October 13 2017 01:05 pvsnp wrote:
I used to like herO back in HotS but these days I can't even watch his games, they're so disgusting. At least sOs is creative with his cheese.
Same.
herO is really strong but when i see that he his playing against a terran or a zerg I usually just don't watch, it will just make me salty af.
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I've said this before, but herO's best skill is choosing what build/strategy to use for each map beforehand. In most of his games, whatever strat he picks from the start will simply either win or lose. It's rare to see back and forth action, on the fly decision making etc
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Liquidpedia already has a 3rd one of these events listed. Anyone got a source/confirmation on that?
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Dark almost threw this, but his lead was too big.
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wow Dear on fire. Com'on SoO !
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All Dear fans rooting for soO so hard right now
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wow soO seemed hopeless so far
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On October 13 2017 21:47 Nebuchad wrote:
All Dear fans rooting for soO so hard right now
Tbh I usually root for any opponent of herO.
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According to scboy said in their stream, they plan to run another one after Blizcon, and 8 more next year, $10k each.
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On October 13 2017 22:24 pzlama333 wrote:
According to scboy said in their stream, they plan to run another one after Blizcon, and 8 more next year, $10k each.
Wow, they got some $$$
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On October 13 2017 22:24 pzlama333 wrote:
According to scboy said in their stream, they plan to run another one after Blizcon, and 8 more next year, $10k each.
...8? wow!
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This was a really cool tournament. Enjoyed it a lot. hero in top form.
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I hope herO lose his form at Blizzcon
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On October 13 2017 21:47 Nebuchad wrote:
All Dear fans rooting for soO so hard right now
aaand we were right.
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So is herO the TRUE of Protoss (or does even TRUE have more creative cheese?)
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On October 13 2017 22:31 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 22:24 pzlama333 wrote:
According to scboy said in their stream, they plan to run another one after Blizcon, and 8 more next year, $10k each. Wow, they got some $$$
They made some money from their stream and they have a lot of sponsors for their games, like 万家乐 taidu Gameduchy Alienware etc.
BTW Alienware is the sponsor of another game called Kungfu Cup, which is mainly for the Chinese players.
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On October 13 2017 23:29 AzAlexZ wrote:
So is herO the TRUE of Protoss (or does even TRUE have more creative cheese?)
What? True is super cool, he killed prime-Zest on collossus tech with slow lings and wins macrogames with ling-queen. (or tries to)
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Pretty sure this is going to be their flagship tournament brand for 2018, replacing Kung Fu Cup entirely so the budget is there.
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On October 13 2017 22:24 pzlama333 wrote:
According to scboy said in their stream, they plan to run another one after Blizcon, and 8 more next year, $10k each.
It is reported that Zhang Haohan (张浩翰), xiaose's brother-in-law, also a millionaire and owner of MTR City Plaza in Shanghai, decide to sponsor this event and the prize pool will be doubled, which becomes $20k per event, about 6 to 8 events next year. He also says he would sponsor some other events organized by scboy as well.
This news is not confirmed and the detail is not finalized and official announced yet.
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On November 15 2017 16:19 pzlama333 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 22:24 pzlama333 wrote:
According to scboy said in their stream, they plan to run another one after Blizcon, and 8 more next year, $10k each. It is reported that Zhang Haohan (张浩翰), xiaose's brother-in-law, also a millionaire and owner of MTR City Plaza in Shanghai, decide to sponsor this event and the prize pool will be doubled, which becomes $20k per event, about 6 to 8 events next year. He also says he would sponsor some other events organized by scboy as well. This news is not confirmed and the detail is not finalized and official announced yet.
肾亏 cup 
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