On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote:
is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon?
1P
2T
7Z
is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon?
1P
2T
7Z
yes, Protoss is too strong and Zerg can never win ZvP.
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Charoisaur
Germany15867 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote: is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon? 1P 2T 7Z yes, Protoss is too strong and Zerg can never win ZvP. | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:16 Nerchio wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:15 Fango wrote: On September 11 2017 04:11 Beyond Magic wrote: Umm, i haven't really followed sc too much lately but is Z v P really that one sided these days? This was a serious skill mismatch. But protoss is looking strong recently So maybe you will finally stop shittalking about me and accept that I was right all along ![]() P is really strange atm. It definitely isn't imba to the point it can carry people far above what their skill / dedication should allow them to achieve (hi Ziktomini, JohnnyRecco, ABomb etc) ; nevertheless, it definitely makes playing vs a very strong P look quite hopeless. | ||
VHbb
689 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:18 GoloSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote: is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon? 1P 2T 7Z 5z, but yes Ops - miscounted ![]() I don't comment on balance (I don't think one can say much from these distributions, it depends too much on the players, their form, too many factors) but I wonder where did the other good protoss go? I didn't follow very closely, but at least Showtime I would have expected (and perhaps PtitDrogo? who am I forgetting?) | ||
SnowfaLL
Canada730 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote: Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank. In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg. Something has to change, honestly. Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches: TRUE 3:0 DnS Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem Serral 3:0 MaNa Snute 3:1 Has So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race. How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.) | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote: But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it. Have they never seen Formula 1? Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around. | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote: He tried ... Code A still better result than cure Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... ) no he was not in code s even noregret is better than cure Cure was in Code S in Season 1 oops forgot that :p Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30545 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote: But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it. Have they never seen Formula 1? Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around. Make a guide in the strategy section | ||
Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote: But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it. Have they never seen Formula 1? Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around. Neeb needs to get some advice from Lewis Hamilton or Sebastian Vettel. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:20 DieuCure wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote: He tried ... Code A still better result than cure Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... ) no he was not in code s even noregret is better than cure Cure was in Code S in Season 1 oops forgot that :p Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please. The most gifted sc2 player was Taeja, literally didn't train and still won vs all the best koreans | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:19 VHbb wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:18 GoloSC2 wrote: On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote: is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon? 1P 2T 7Z 5z, but yes Ops - miscounted ![]() I don't comment on balance (I don't think one can say much from these distributions, it depends too much on the players, their form, too many factors) but I wonder where did the other good protoss go? I didn't follow very closely, but at least Showtime I would have expected (and perhaps PtitDrogo? who am I forgetting?) Showtime had an awful year sadly, he had to win Montreal to qualify and he lost to Kelazhur | ||
Gurbak
France622 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:20 DieuCure wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote: He tried ... Code A still better result than cure Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... ) no he was not in code s even noregret is better than cure Cure was in Code S in Season 1 oops forgot that :p Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please. i'm just trying to be as annoying as you | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote: On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote: But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it. Have they never seen Formula 1? Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around. Make a guide in the strategy section I think Lycan made a bottle opening guide once, but I'm not sure if he showed how to spray ![]() | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:22 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote: On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote: But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it. Have they never seen Formula 1? Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around. Make a guide in the strategy section I think Lycan made a bottle opening guide once, but I'm not sure if he showed how to spray ![]() No need to worry, the biggest part of the design change is the champagne bottle fix | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:22 Gurbak wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:20 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote: On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote: He tried ... Code A still better result than cure Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... ) no he was not in code s even noregret is better than cure Cure was in Code S in Season 1 oops forgot that :p Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please. i'm just trying to be as annoying as you Your little crusade is ridiculous, vulgar | ||
Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:20 SnowfaLL wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote: Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank. In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg. Something has to change, honestly. Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches: TRUE 3:0 DnS Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem Serral 3:0 MaNa Snute 3:1 Has So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race. How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.) This. Have a Zerg and a Terran as good as Neeb is and things would be different. Zerg tears tho | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:20 SnowfaLL wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote: Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank. In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg. Something has to change, honestly. Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches: TRUE 3:0 DnS Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem Serral 3:0 MaNa Snute 3:1 Has So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race. How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.) to be fair all of those except Scarlett - Harstem were bound to be one-sided as well, and Scarlett emerged victorious of that one through heavy aggression wacky builds. I'd have liked to see a more balanced PvZ, for instance Serral vs Neeb could have been interesting (though I don't really know how to rate Serral atm), same for Elazer vs Neeb. Sadly ZvZ took its toll. | ||
Stress
United States980 Posts
On September 11 2017 04:26 Myrddrael wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 04:20 SnowfaLL wrote: On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote: Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank. In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg. Something has to change, honestly. Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches: TRUE 3:0 DnS Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem Serral 3:0 MaNa Snute 3:1 Has So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race. How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.) This. Have a Zerg and a Terran as good as Neeb is and things would be different. Zerg tears tho It is funny to see the top 10 list up on the stream. 1 Protoss, 2 Terrans and 7 Zergs. Neeb is by far the best foreigner and the tournament results reflect that. | ||
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