• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:29
CEST 16:29
KST 23:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High14Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes208BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch3Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four Question about resolution & DPI settings SC2 Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!
Tourneys
Monday Nights Weeklies RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Old rep packs of BW legends BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Kendrick, Eminem, and "Self…
Peanutsc
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2162 users

[WCS] Montreal 2017 - Championship Sunday - Page 51

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 49 50 51 52 53 60 Next
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
September 10 2017 19:19 GMT
#1001
On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote:
is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon?
1P
2T
7Z

yes, Protoss is too strong and Zerg can never win ZvP.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
September 10 2017 19:19 GMT
#1002
On September 11 2017 04:16 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:15 Fango wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:11 Beyond Magic wrote:
Umm, i haven't really followed sc too much lately but is Z v P really that one sided these days?


This was a serious skill mismatch. But protoss is looking strong recently

So maybe you will finally stop shittalking about me and accept that I was right all along

P is really strange atm. It definitely isn't imba to the point it can carry people far above what their skill / dedication should allow them to achieve (hi Ziktomini, JohnnyRecco, ABomb etc) ; nevertheless, it definitely makes playing vs a very strong P look quite hopeless.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
September 10 2017 19:19 GMT
#1003
On September 11 2017 04:18 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote:
is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon?
1P
2T
7Z

5z, but yes


Ops - miscounted
I don't comment on balance (I don't think one can say much from these distributions, it depends too much on the players, their form, too many factors) but I wonder where did the other good protoss go?

I didn't follow very closely, but at least Showtime I would have expected (and perhaps PtitDrogo? who am I forgetting?)
My life for Aiur !
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 19:21:25
September 10 2017 19:20 GMT
#1004
On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote:
Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank.
In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg.
Something has to change, honestly.


Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches:

TRUE 3:0 DnS
Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem
Serral 3:0 MaNa
Snute 3:1 Has

So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race.

How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.)
Favorites: Moon, Grubby, Naniwa, TAiLS, viOLeT, DongRaeGu
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 10 2017 19:20 GMT
#1005
On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote:
But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it.

Have they never seen Formula 1?

Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p

Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 10 2017 19:20 GMT
#1006
On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Sakat wrote:
(P)Neeb should (Z)just (P)Try GSL like all the proper SC2 players



He tried ... Code A

still better result than cure



Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... )

no he was not in code s

even noregret is better than cure

Cure was in Code S in Season 1

oops forgot that :p



Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please.
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 10 2017 19:21 GMT
#1007
Story of the Circuit is basically Zergs and Neeb
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 10 2017 19:21 GMT
#1008
On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote:
But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it.

Have they never seen Formula 1?

Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p

Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around.

Make a guide in the strategy section
Neosteel Enthusiast
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
September 10 2017 19:21 GMT
#1009
On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote:
But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it.

Have they never seen Formula 1?

Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p

Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around.


Neeb needs to get some advice from Lewis Hamilton or Sebastian Vettel.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 10 2017 19:21 GMT
#1010
On September 11 2017 04:20 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Sakat wrote:
(P)Neeb should (Z)just (P)Try GSL like all the proper SC2 players



He tried ... Code A

still better result than cure



Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... )

no he was not in code s

even noregret is better than cure

Cure was in Code S in Season 1

oops forgot that :p



Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please.

The most gifted sc2 player was Taeja, literally didn't train and still won vs all the best koreans
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 19:22:45
September 10 2017 19:21 GMT
#1011
On September 11 2017 04:19 VHbb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:18 GoloSC2 wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:17 VHbb wrote:
is Neeb the only protoss from the WCS side going to Blizzcon?
1P
2T
7Z

5z, but yes


Ops - miscounted
I don't comment on balance (I don't think one can say much from these distributions, it depends too much on the players, their form, too many factors) but I wonder where did the other good protoss go?

I didn't follow very closely, but at least Showtime I would have expected (and perhaps PtitDrogo? who am I forgetting?)

Showtime had an awful year sadly, he had to win Montreal to qualify and he lost to Kelazhur
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 10 2017 19:22 GMT
#1012
On September 11 2017 04:20 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Sakat wrote:
(P)Neeb should (Z)just (P)Try GSL like all the proper SC2 players



He tried ... Code A

still better result than cure



Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... )

no he was not in code s

even noregret is better than cure

Cure was in Code S in Season 1

oops forgot that :p



Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please.

i'm just trying to be as annoying as you
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 10 2017 19:22 GMT
#1013
On September 11 2017 04:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote:
But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it.

Have they never seen Formula 1?

Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p

Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around.

Make a guide in the strategy section

I think Lycan made a bottle opening guide once, but I'm not sure if he showed how to spray .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 10 2017 19:23 GMT
#1014
I don't know how zergs are crying when a zerg reached the finals of 80% of the WCS events since lotv release, with 7 zergs in both of the blizzcon

TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
September 10 2017 19:24 GMT
#1015
Protoss has been shit most of this year
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 10 2017 19:24 GMT
#1016
On September 11 2017 04:22 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:20 Musicus wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Musicus wrote:
But seriously, why do they not understand that they have to put their thumb above the bottle opening to build up pressure when shaking it? Then they can really spray it.

Have they never seen Formula 1?

Formula 1 have a lot better champagnes and a lot bigger, it's hard to build up pressure in this small bottle :p

Okay that may be true. But I sprayed with a bottle like that, it's definitely doable but they never put their thumb above it after it's opened and just swing it around.

Make a guide in the strategy section

I think Lycan made a bottle opening guide once, but I'm not sure if he showed how to spray .

No need to worry, the biggest part of the design change is the champagne bottle fix
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 10 2017 19:25 GMT
#1017
On September 11 2017 04:22 Gurbak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:20 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:17 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:15 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:14 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Gurbak wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 DieuCure wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Sakat wrote:
(P)Neeb should (Z)just (P)Try GSL like all the proper SC2 players



He tried ... Code A

still better result than cure



Not really , Cure played code S this year, and was near of Dark s lvl ( above but ultras and cheese ... )

no he was not in code s

even noregret is better than cure

Cure was in Code S in Season 1

oops forgot that :p



Yes so stop trying to trashtalk the most gifted player in sc2 history just because you don't know anything please.

i'm just trying to be as annoying as you


Your little crusade is ridiculous, vulgar
TL+ Member
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
September 10 2017 19:26 GMT
#1018
On September 11 2017 04:20 SnowfaLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote:
Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank.
In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg.
Something has to change, honestly.


Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches:

TRUE 3:0 DnS
Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem
Serral 3:0 MaNa
Snute 3:1 Has

So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race.

How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.)


This. Have a Zerg and a Terran as good as Neeb is and things would be different. Zerg tears tho
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
September 10 2017 19:28 GMT
#1019
On September 11 2017 04:20 SnowfaLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote:
Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank.
In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg.
Something has to change, honestly.


Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches:

TRUE 3:0 DnS
Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem
Serral 3:0 MaNa
Snute 3:1 Has

So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race.

How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.)

to be fair all of those except Scarlett - Harstem were bound to be one-sided as well, and Scarlett emerged victorious of that one through heavy aggression wacky builds.

I'd have liked to see a more balanced PvZ, for instance Serral vs Neeb could have been interesting (though I don't really know how to rate Serral atm), same for Elazer vs Neeb. Sadly ZvZ took its toll.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
September 10 2017 19:29 GMT
#1020
On September 11 2017 04:26 Myrddrael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 04:20 SnowfaLL wrote:
On September 11 2017 04:12 Trizz wrote:
Zerg has no micro options, all they can do is flank.
In battles like these with hydra/base vs sentry/storm it's all on the protoss and none on the zerg.
Something has to change, honestly.


Well, take NEEB out of the tournament and here is your top 16 ZvP matches:

TRUE 3:0 DnS
Scarlett 3:2 Harstrem
Serral 3:0 MaNa
Snute 3:1 Has

So, in actual matchups without Neeb in the game, zerg won 4 out of 4 matchups. Yeah, really weak race.

How about just admitting Neeb is SO FAR ahead of all these nerds - thats why these finals are always so one sided despite zerg DOMINATING the rest of the tournament. (6 zerg out of top 8?? yeah. so bad.)


This. Have a Zerg and a Terran as good as Neeb is and things would be different. Zerg tears tho


It is funny to see the top 10 list up on the stream. 1 Protoss, 2 Terrans and 7 Zergs. Neeb is by far the best foreigner and the tournament results reflect that.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Prev 1 49 50 51 52 53 60 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #52
WardiTV753
OGKoka 303
CranKy Ducklings151
Rex133
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 403
OGKoka 303
Rex 133
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49222
Calm 6927
Sea 6678
Barracks 4125
Rain 3373
Flash 3061
Bisu 2593
Horang2 1684
BeSt 718
Larva 460
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 318
firebathero 298
Soma 256
Leta 255
Hyuk 250
hero 234
Soulkey 211
Light 195
actioN 156
Zeus 108
Mind 98
Mong 88
Aegong 62
Sharp 62
Sea.KH 56
Movie 53
soO 49
Backho 39
sorry 38
sas.Sziky 27
Terrorterran 17
Pusan 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Sexy 15
scan(afreeca) 10
Shine 8
Hm[arnc] 7
Rock 7
Noble 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7979
qojqva3515
Dendi1457
420jenkins374
Fuzer 230
XcaliburYe168
Counter-Strike
oskar219
markeloff130
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
gofns22339
tarik_tv16062
singsing1902
hiko460
crisheroes295
Hui .245
Liquid`VortiX167
XaKoH 90
QueenE88
NeuroSwarm43
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4107
League of Legends
• Nemesis4443
• Jankos1236
Other Games
• Shiphtur167
• WagamamaTV143
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 31m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 31m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 31m
Snow vs EffOrt
Wardi Open
20h 31m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 9h
LiuLi Cup
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Serral vs herO
Clem vs Reynor
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.