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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 10 2017 18:26 GMT
#621
On September 11 2017 03:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:23 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:22 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:17 Fango wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:12 fastr wrote:
[quote]

Clicking on pylons with a single defensive air unit was always stupid design wise, shield battery is infinitely better as it forces protoss to leave some unit to defend and offer micro and counter play possibilities. If Shield battery in it's current state is underpowered, they can always buff it after further testing.


Shield batteries are a fundamentally garbage concept of a do nothing support building that always falls into uselessness or overpoweredness.


Pylon overcharge is several times worse


Shit design that maintains balance > Shit design that can't even maintain balance

Can't we just bring back nexus overcharge?

+1 nexus overcharge was 100% better than pylon overcharge

is this a joke?

Why would it be? I think nexus overcharge was more fun to play against than pylon overcharge and i think it was better (though ideally no overcharge would be good)

It was ass cancer to try and fight into a cannon that was impossible to kill. Not every race load up their entire army into medivacs and doom drop main ))

You can do it in LotV though


Can you? I could see zergs hating Nexus Overcharge more than Pylon Overcharge, since you can't snipe nexi with ravager biles as easily.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
September 10 2017 18:26 GMT
#622
On September 11 2017 03:25 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:24 Durnuu wrote:
Neeb is literally me

Neeb doesn't fail cannon rush.

it's not a fail if you don't try
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
September 10 2017 18:26 GMT
#623
On September 11 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:22 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:17 Fango wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:12 fastr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

They're bringing back the shield battery. I wonder how long it'll take them to realize that the shield battery is even worse in SCII than BW and shelve the idea.


Clicking on pylons with a single defensive air unit was always stupid design wise, shield battery is infinitely better as it forces protoss to leave some unit to defend and offer micro and counter play possibilities. If Shield battery in it's current state is underpowered, they can always buff it after further testing.


Shield batteries are a fundamentally garbage concept of a do nothing support building that always falls into uselessness or overpoweredness.


Pylon overcharge is several times worse


Shit design that maintains balance > Shit design that can't even maintain balance

Can't we just bring back nexus overcharge?

+1 nexus overcharge was 100% better than pylon overcharge

is this a joke?

Why would it be? I think nexus overcharge was more fun to play against than pylon overcharge and i think it was better (though ideally no overcharge would be good)

pylon overcharge requires much more skill in pylon positioning etc. It also offers more counterplay because you can actually kill pylons, they have less range and a lower cooldown

I dunno, maybe it's just me but i thought playing vs nexus cannon was 1000x easier than vs pylon cannon.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 18:27:13
September 10 2017 18:26 GMT
#624
On September 11 2017 03:23 pvsnp wrote:
After Tastosis the best are incontrol and Rotti imo

Agreed

Wolf/Rapid are also up there
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2017 18:27 GMT
#625
I personally think the best way to play vs mass oracle is doing the Bly and making a spire.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 10 2017 18:27 GMT
#626
On September 11 2017 03:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:24 Elentos wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:23 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:22 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:17 Fango wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
[quote]

Shield batteries are a fundamentally garbage concept of a do nothing support building that always falls into uselessness or overpoweredness.


Pylon overcharge is several times worse


Shit design that maintains balance > Shit design that can't even maintain balance

Can't we just bring back nexus overcharge?

+1 nexus overcharge was 100% better than pylon overcharge

is this a joke?

Why would it be? I think nexus overcharge was more fun to play against than pylon overcharge and i think it was better (though ideally no overcharge would be good)

It was ass cancer to try and fight into a cannon that was impossible to kill. Not every race load up their entire army into medivacs and doom drop main ))

You can do it in LotV though


Can you? I could see zergs hating Nexus Overcharge more than Pylon Overcharge, since you can't snipe nexi with ravager biles as easily.

Of course Zerg would hate it, half their timings would be much worse if the nexus was shooting at them for a minute. For Terran I'd definitely be happier if it was still on the nexus though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
September 10 2017 18:28 GMT
#627
Can´t wait to see fungal not hitting air
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
September 10 2017 18:28 GMT
#628
On September 11 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
I personally think the best way to play vs mass oracle is doing the Bly and making a spire.

Is it wise to go muta against double stargate?
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 10 2017 18:28 GMT
#629
I don't care who wins as long as the games are actually good
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#630
On September 11 2017 03:28 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
I personally think the best way to play vs mass oracle is doing the Bly and making a spire.

Is it wise to go muta against double stargate?

It's better to die trying than never live a real life.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#631
On September 11 2017 03:28 RaFox17 wrote:
Can´t wait to see fungal not hitting air

it's okay, revelation is only gonna last 30 seconds!
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#632
On September 11 2017 03:25 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:23 pvsnp wrote:
After Tastosis the best are incontrol and Rotti imo


I never liked incontrol as a caster that much. He's can be funny as hell and a great addition to any event, but other casters seem to add more from an analytical perspective, and seem to keep up with the metas a bit more


I think he's great. Of the the nerds watching sc2 can analyse game themselves and I think caster's main job is to keep us entertained. But it comes to personal preferences.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#633
On September 11 2017 03:28 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
I personally think the best way to play vs mass oracle is doing the Bly and making a spire.

Is it wise to go muta against double stargate?


I guess it comes down to how many mutas you go and how well you manage to catch the Oracles
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#634
On September 11 2017 03:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:24 Elentos wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:23 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:22 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Luolis wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 03:17 Fango wrote:
[quote]

Pylon overcharge is several times worse


Shit design that maintains balance > Shit design that can't even maintain balance

Can't we just bring back nexus overcharge?

+1 nexus overcharge was 100% better than pylon overcharge

is this a joke?

Why would it be? I think nexus overcharge was more fun to play against than pylon overcharge and i think it was better (though ideally no overcharge would be good)

It was ass cancer to try and fight into a cannon that was impossible to kill. Not every race load up their entire army into medivacs and doom drop main ))

You can do it in LotV though


Can you? I could see zergs hating Nexus Overcharge more than Pylon Overcharge, since you can't snipe nexi with ravager biles as easily.

Of course Zerg would hate it, half their timings would be much worse if the nexus was shooting at them for a minute. For Terran I'd definitely be happier if it was still on the nexus though.

That would shut down tank pushes though
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#635
On September 11 2017 03:28 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
I personally think the best way to play vs mass oracle is doing the Bly and making a spire.

Is it wise to go muta against double stargate?

Not if you attack right away but if you pool up 15+ mutas and catch protoss off guard it's fine
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#636
ORACLE SURROUND
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#637
oracles just dont give a fuck
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#638
Neeb showing Has how to attack with oracles
Neosteel Enthusiast
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#639
On September 11 2017 03:28 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
I personally think the best way to play vs mass oracle is doing the Bly and making a spire.

Is it wise to go muta against double stargate?


You have corruptors too (which do get destroyed once voids come out admittedly).
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 10 2017 18:29 GMT
#640
Never heard of an oracle surround before. What a time we live in.
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