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On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd.
well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence
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On April 30 2017 11:49 starkiller123 wrote:
ah poor Showtime, also rip serral, i knew he was being over hyped
Yeah we get it, Serral is a scrub. What do all these other pro players know.
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I want to see Godchio winning, but I'm half-asleep. T_T
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On April 30 2017 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
I must admit, disruptors are testament to how broken reavers would be in SC2. Do reavers get an improved AI? Warp prisms with reavers do sound pretty disgusting. I mean, disruptors basically shoot scarabs without pathing idiocy.
also warp prism has a larger pick up radius than the shuttle in BW I imagine
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On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence
Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day?
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On April 30 2017 11:52 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day?
yes but I was going for people that aren't retired. All the prime terrans were actually pretty good TvTers early on. Everyone remembers MKP getting his ass whooped by Mvp but he was pretty good in TvT against everyone else
Polt was part of that Mvp > Polt > MMA > Mvp love triangle of TvT death
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On April 30 2017 11:52 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:51 lolfail9001 wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
I must admit, disruptors are testament to how broken reavers would be in SC2. Do reavers get an improved AI? Warp prisms with reavers do sound pretty disgusting. I mean, disruptors basically shoot scarabs without pathing idiocy. also warp prism has a larger pick up radius than the shuttle in BW I imagine
Significantly, yeah.
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Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day?
Very, the old, old triangle was MMA > Mvp > Polt > MMA
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> It's been at least an hour since we've seen a game of that caliber
Did i hear that right? If i did, i applaud.
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On April 30 2017 11:52 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day?
Depends how far back you go
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On April 30 2017 11:52 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:52 starkiller123 wrote:On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day? yes but I was going for people that aren't retired. All the prime terrans were actually pretty good TvTers early on. Everyone remembers MKP getting his ass whooped by Mvp but he was pretty good in TvT against everyone else Polt was part of that Mvp > Polt > MMA > Mvp love triangle of TvT death
Ryung? was he just a sniper o had a tvt good enough to be considered
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On April 30 2017 11:52 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day?
Good enough to win a super tournament at the height of GomTvT.
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Awesome run of winning against Namshar, Pilipili and Probe. Yup.
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On April 30 2017 11:54 D-light wrote:
Awesome run of winning against Namshar, Pilipili and Probe. Yup.
I'd be happy to beat those guys 
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On April 30 2017 11:54 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:52 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:52 starkiller123 wrote:On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day? yes but I was going for people that aren't retired. All the prime terrans were actually pretty good TvTers early on. Everyone remembers MKP getting his ass whooped by Mvp but he was pretty good in TvT against everyone else Polt was part of that Mvp > Polt > MMA > Mvp love triangle of TvT death Ryung? was he just a sniper o had a tvt good enough to be considered
Ryung was even more of TvT specialist than he is today. Though maybe that's just because his TvP and TvZ have relatively improved more.
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On April 30 2017 11:54 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:52 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:52 starkiller123 wrote:On April 30 2017 11:51 Shellshock wrote:On April 30 2017 11:50 Soularion wrote:On April 30 2017 11:49 pvsnp wrote:Who would you consider the top 5 best TvT players of ~2012-2014?
TaeJa, Mvp, INnoVation (he was insane with hellbat drops), Flash, MMA. In no particular order. TaeJa vs INnoVation on Newkirk is still the best game of Starcraft II, ever. Inno vs Mvp was a super sick series too. Flash, MMA, TaeJa and Mvp are all retired. INnoVation was never all that good outside of the hellbat era. The old TvTers are gone, and that's left a bit of a void where everything is scrappy and odd. well I mean if you want to get to the really old good TvTers Gumigod, Ryung, and aLive are having a resurgence Was Polt a pretty good TvTer back in the day? yes but I was going for people that aren't retired. All the prime terrans were actually pretty good TvTers early on. Everyone remembers MKP getting his ass whooped by Mvp but he was pretty good in TvT against everyone else Polt was part of that Mvp > Polt > MMA > Mvp love triangle of TvT death Ryung? was he just a sniper o had a tvt good enough to be considered
I mean he was over 60% TvT win rate in WoL. that's pretty good for the question of old good TvTers
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On April 30 2017 11:51 Fango wrote:
Boring yet strategic PvP > action-packed yet frustrating PvP
I would prefer to play the former and watch the latter.
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On April 30 2017 11:57 breaker1328 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2017 11:51 Fango wrote:
Boring yet strategic PvP > action-packed yet frustrating PvP I would prefer to play the former and watch the latter.
There's also the question of whether building colossi arcs and a-moving is strategic.
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