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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-04 15:25:53
March 04 2017 15:18 GMT
#961
On March 05 2017 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2017 00:15 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:13 Swisslink wrote:
Well, not taking anything away from Stats' performance, but these kind of games are the reason why Protoss is hated so much :-P

You hate almost perfect play?


That's not really the point. Turtling until the opponent has no chance to fight anymore is just exhausting to watch, imo.

Stats wasn't turtling at all though.

If you don't kill them before 5 minutes you're turtling.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
March 04 2017 15:19 GMT
#962
On March 05 2017 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2017 00:15 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:14 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:13 Swisslink wrote:
Well, not taking anything away from Stats' performance, but these kind of games are the reason why Protoss is hated so much :-P

You hate almost perfect play?


That's not really the point. Turtling until the opponent has no chance to fight anymore is just exhausting to watch, imo.

Stats wasn't turtling at all though.

yeah it was more Nerchio turtling haha.
Of course pvz lategame isn't balanced/fair but in that game Stats was just outplaying Nerchio from the first to the last second.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 04 2017 15:20 GMT
#963
On March 05 2017 00:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Was ToDs beard really a Gilette add?

yep :p
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 04 2017 15:21 GMT
#964
People dislike protoss because it's still a blob walking around the map which makes unit interactions fairly uninteresting.
The bigger the army the worse the unit interactions.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 04 2017 15:22 GMT
#965
People dislike protoss because it's still a blob walking around the map which makes unit interactions fairly uninteresting.
The bigger the army the worse the unit interactions.


amove deathball amirite?
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
March 04 2017 15:22 GMT
#966
On March 05 2017 00:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People dislike protoss because it's still a blob walking around the map which makes unit interactions fairly uninteresting.
The bigger the army the worse the unit interactions.

Nerfing pylon warp-ins and forcing Protoss to make a warp prism to reinforce didn't help that
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
March 04 2017 15:23 GMT
#967
O.O so many Terrans
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
March 04 2017 15:23 GMT
#968
On March 05 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2017 00:16 PPN wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:11 ssg wrote:
Embarrassing performance by nerchio

what's embarassing about losing 3-0 to the best Protoss on the planet in the hardest matchup?


PvT is the hardest matchup right now by miles. Wtf are you talking about. What's embarassing is that Nerchio did not even seem to put

protoss having it so hard every patch!
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S_Statistics


Please take a high number of samples before playing the whiners' game. http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/


The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 04 2017 15:23 GMT
#969
On March 05 2017 00:22 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
People dislike protoss because it's still a blob walking around the map which makes unit interactions fairly uninteresting.
The bigger the army the worse the unit interactions.


amove deathball amirite?

Not necessarily. But it's not pleasing to look at. Compare it to ZvT engagements of big armies and you will see a massive difference.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
March 04 2017 15:24 GMT
#970
Stats won that game at the moment he made a warp prism. Nerchio had to stay in his side forever while Stats took all the bases. If he made an early spire, he would just push and finish. Well played
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 04 2017 15:25 GMT
#971
I hope Stats or Serral will make it.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-04 15:26:47
March 04 2017 15:25 GMT
#972
Please take a high number of samples before playing the whiners' game. http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/

In case you haven't noticed, the most recent list has Protoss winrate at 50.6% vT and 52.98% vZ
Please take appropriate samples before playing the whiners' game.
aligulac.com
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 04 2017 15:26 GMT
#973
I was gearing up to play the whiners game but it seems to be too much work with all the requirements
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 04 2017 15:26 GMT
#974
i love how stats is 15th in aligulac
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
March 04 2017 15:26 GMT
#975
On March 05 2017 00:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People dislike protoss because it's still a blob walking around the map which makes unit interactions fairly uninteresting.
The bigger the army the worse the unit interactions.


Yeah adepts shading and zealots warp-in left and right to distract and try to position your main army with a shit ton of spells. Totally a-move big ball of death. Totally unlike every other races.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-04 15:28:42
March 04 2017 15:27 GMT
#976
On March 05 2017 00:23 PPN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:16 PPN wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:11 ssg wrote:
Embarrassing performance by nerchio

what's embarassing about losing 3-0 to the best Protoss on the planet in the hardest matchup?


PvT is the hardest matchup right now by miles. Wtf are you talking about. What's embarassing is that Nerchio did not even seem to put

protoss having it so hard every patch!
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S_Statistics


Please take a high number of samples before playing the whiners' game. http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/

If INnoVation played MaNa 10000 times and won 9900 games would that mean that TvP is imbalanced?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-04 15:27:55
March 04 2017 15:27 GMT
#977
On March 05 2017 00:23 PPN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2017 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:16 PPN wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:12 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2017 00:11 ssg wrote:
Embarrassing performance by nerchio

what's embarassing about losing 3-0 to the best Protoss on the planet in the hardest matchup?


PvT is the hardest matchup right now by miles. Wtf are you talking about. What's embarassing is that Nerchio did not even seem to put

protoss having it so hard every patch!
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S_Statistics


Please take a high number of samples before playing the whiners' game. http://aligulac.com/misc/balance/



I do think that Aligulac is the worst source though, since the level of players varies way too much. Matches like Ryung vs Reign or Bunny vs Gremory will be in that statistic.

Code S numbers still matter the most imo.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 04 2017 15:27 GMT
#978
On March 05 2017 00:25 Musicus wrote:
I hope Stats or Serral will make it.

noo, Stats - Dark pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vanillatoss
Profile Joined May 2016
76 Posts
March 04 2017 15:28 GMT
#979
Well.. Nerchio only hope was that Stats would do some mistakes..

Is there anyone brave enough to point even the smallest mistake Stats did during those games???

You could probably point to Nerchio mistakes.. but well...

Stats outplayed him this time i guess.. It doesnt mean that Nerchio is bad or whatever.. this things just happens.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 04 2017 15:29 GMT
#980
noo, Stats - Dark pls

Dude ByuN vs Dark is waaay more exciting.
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