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mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
August 12 2016 10:34 GMT
#201
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.


Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 12 2016 10:34 GMT
#202
On August 12 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:30 Olli wrote:
Just remove the liberator anti air splash already and give us muta ZvT back.

I don't think that's how that works


It does actually, what is the liberator air splash good for besides completely eliminating muta play?

It's like that goddamn widow mine patch that killed everything that was good with PvT
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
August 12 2016 10:36 GMT
#203
On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.


Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.

Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 12 2016 10:37 GMT
#204
On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.


Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.

Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it

further adjustments may be necessary
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 12 2016 10:38 GMT
#205
On August 12 2016 18:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 18:43 Durnuu wrote:
On August 12 2016 18:41 Elentos wrote:
Well, Wolf got in his obligatory mention of Cure's GSL semifinal 2 years ago. But at least he didn't say it's more relevant than his GSL semifinal this year. I guess that's progress?

Can't wait for him to spam us with "ByuN is teamless!"

I can't believe he doesn't spend all of ByuN's games talking about the fact that his ID used to be Excrement


You were saying
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
August 12 2016 10:38 GMT
#206
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?

FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 12 2016 10:38 GMT
#207
On August 12 2016 19:37 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.


Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.

Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it

further adjustments may be necessary

just need to disqualify the last 3 zergs
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 12 2016 10:38 GMT
#208
On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.


Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.

Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it


Well he also lost a fuck-ton of SCVs by never watching the mini map so I think there were other factors in this game that led to Cure losing...^^
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 12 2016 10:38 GMT
#209
sOs is absolutely not on the cusp of going to Blizccon D:
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-12 10:39:56
August 12 2016 10:39 GMT
#210
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can hit air. :/
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 12 2016 10:39 GMT
#211
On August 12 2016 19:39 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can it air. :/


Marinesssssssss
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 12 2016 10:40 GMT
#212
On August 12 2016 19:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:39 Durnuu wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can it air. :/


Marinesssssssss

I meant zerg units, my bad
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 12 2016 10:41 GMT
#213
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


It's because of the liberator, I would've liked a different solution as well

They kinda made the queen a Zerg liberator swiss-army-knife-wise
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 12 2016 10:42 GMT
#214
Sooo, most tilted player against the great tilter of mankind...
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 12 2016 10:42 GMT
#215
Also, pls vote :
Poll: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 1 ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
30%

★★★ - Good game (5)
 
50%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
20%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 1 ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 2 ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
10%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (7)
 
70%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
20%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 2 ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 3 ?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
13%

★★★ - Good game (4)
 
50%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
 
38%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 3 ?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
August 12 2016 10:42 GMT
#216
On August 12 2016 19:39 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can hit air. :/


Yes I admit that is a problem.
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
August 12 2016 10:43 GMT
#217
On August 12 2016 19:38 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.


Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.

Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it


Well he also lost a fuck-ton of SCVs by never watching the mini map so I think there were other factors in this game that led to Cure losing...^^

But once you harass with ultralisks you need a lot more apm that you need on the actual big fight... maybe terran has to go ultra late game?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
August 12 2016 10:43 GMT
#218
On August 12 2016 19:34 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:30 Olli wrote:
Just remove the liberator anti air splash already and give us muta ZvT back.

I don't think that's how that works


It does actually, what is the liberator air splash good for besides completely eliminating muta play?

It's like that goddamn widow mine patch that killed everything that was good with PvT

Just because you take away liberator splash, you won't get back HotS ZvT. Yeah you'll see more mutas, but it won't be what everyone loved in HotS
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16055 Posts
August 12 2016 10:44 GMT
#219
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


the problem is zerg lategame not queens. Queen buff was necessary vs all the new stuff terran got in LotV the problem right now is just that zerg lategame is so overwhelmingly strong that terran relies on doing damage in the midgame.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
August 12 2016 10:44 GMT
#220
On August 12 2016 19:41 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote:
The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.

The Zerg winning part?


No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen?


It's because of the liberator, I would've liked a different solution as well

They kinda made the queen a Zerg liberator swiss-army-knife-wise

I feel like queens are way better against medivacs now than they'll ever be against liberators.
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