The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion.
Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now.
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:30 Olli wrote: Just remove the liberator anti air splash already and give us muta ZvT back. I don't think that's how that works It does actually, what is the liberator air splash good for besides completely eliminating muta play? It's like that goddamn widow mine patch that killed everything that was good with PvT | ||
swissman777
1106 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now. Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it | ||
Penev
28348 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now. Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it further adjustments may be necessary | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On August 12 2016 18:45 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 18:43 Durnuu wrote: On August 12 2016 18:41 Elentos wrote: Well, Wolf got in his obligatory mention of Cure's GSL semifinal 2 years ago. But at least he didn't say it's more relevant than his GSL semifinal this year. I guess that's progress? Can't wait for him to spam us with "ByuN is teamless!" I can't believe he doesn't spend all of ByuN's games talking about the fact that his ID used to be Excrement You were saying | ||
Spinoza
666 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:37 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote: On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now. Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it further adjustments may be necessary just need to disqualify the last 3 zergs | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now. Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it Well he also lost a fuck-ton of SCVs by never watching the mini map so I think there were other factors in this game that led to Cure losing...^^ | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Durnuu
13276 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can hit air. :/ | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:39 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can it air. :/ Marinesssssssss | ||
Durnuu
13276 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:39 Olli wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:39 Durnuu wrote: On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can it air. :/ Marinesssssssss I meant zerg units, my bad | ||
Penev
28348 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? It's because of the liberator, I would've liked a different solution as well They kinda made the queen a Zerg liberator swiss-army-knife-wise | ||
Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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Durnuu
13276 Posts
Poll: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 1 ? ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) ★★★ - Good game (5) ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2) ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 1 ? (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what Poll: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 2 ? ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) ★★★ - Good game (7) ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2) ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 2 ? (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what Poll: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 3 ? ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) ★★★ - Good game (4) ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3) 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Cure vs Dark Game 3 ? (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what | ||
Spinoza
666 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:39 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? Well, queens are the only Tier 1 units that can hit air. :/ Yes I admit that is a problem. | ||
swissman777
1106 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:38 TheOneAboveU wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:36 swissman777 wrote: On August 12 2016 19:34 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. Zerg doesn't roll over and die anymore? Yes that must suck to watch now. Now terran rolls over and ides to Ultralisks by the looks of it Well he also lost a fuck-ton of SCVs by never watching the mini map so I think there were other factors in this game that led to Cure losing...^^ But once you harass with ultralisks you need a lot more apm that you need on the actual big fight... maybe terran has to go ultra late game? | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:34 Olli wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote: On August 12 2016 19:30 Olli wrote: Just remove the liberator anti air splash already and give us muta ZvT back. I don't think that's how that works It does actually, what is the liberator air splash good for besides completely eliminating muta play? It's like that goddamn widow mine patch that killed everything that was good with PvT Just because you take away liberator splash, you won't get back HotS ZvT. Yeah you'll see more mutas, but it won't be what everyone loved in HotS | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15617 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? the problem is zerg lategame not queens. Queen buff was necessary vs all the new stuff terran got in LotV the problem right now is just that zerg lategame is so overwhelmingly strong that terran relies on doing damage in the midgame. | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On August 12 2016 19:41 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On August 12 2016 19:38 Spinoza wrote: On August 12 2016 19:28 Penev wrote: On August 12 2016 19:26 Spinoza wrote: The Queen buff is destroying the entertainment value of TvZ in my opinion. The Zerg winning part? No, I love Dark and Zerg definitely needed a buff, but fiddling with the Queen to make it so universally useful is simply not fun to watch for me. I love lurkers and banelings and hydras and mutas ... couldn't they have done something there instead. And yes I know Z needed something against the quick terran dropplay ... but the Queen? It's because of the liberator, I would've liked a different solution as well They kinda made the queen a Zerg liberator swiss-army-knife-wise I feel like queens are way better against medivacs now than they'll ever be against liberators. | ||
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