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Patience is the best macro toss in the world?!
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Fuck me this map looks god now.
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On June 19 2016 18:07 Edpayasugo wrote:
Patience is the best macro toss in the world?!
He's the best macro toss playing in this game at least.
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On June 19 2016 18:08 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:07 Edpayasugo wrote:
Patience is the best macro toss in the world?! He's the best macro toss playing in this game at least.
Can't argue with that
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On June 19 2016 18:09 Liquid`Snute wrote:go zerg
Look away now dear Snute. Before the pain begins.
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On June 19 2016 18:09 Liquid`Snute wrote:go zerg
your bias is at almost Scarlett level
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Once i saw that Pylon i predicted DTs. Great Stuff.
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Inca is popular these days
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i missed half of the game cuz i was making polls and apparently byul was about to get dts warped in his main
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On June 19 2016 18:09 Liquid`Snute wrote:go zerg
It's Byul tho, didn't look too good in LotV so far
Good start tho
nvm.. :/
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Playing zerg in adept meta is impossible :D i am sorry for the guys in korea
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wat wat wat
and whats with all the pull out jokes what the hell
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The justice in this game is overwhelming
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rip Patience's hype train 2016-2016
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Patience a bit too patient there
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Overlord flies over his nexus to his natural base and he still doesn't react.. Patience come on buddy
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Wtf Patience. Silver league reactions.
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On June 19 2016 18:14 Fyzar wrote:
Overlord flies over his nexus to his natural base and he still doesn't react.. Patience come on buddy
he moved sentries to 3rd lol, but then he didnt react to nat it was pretty funny
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On June 19 2016 18:14 Penev wrote:
Patience a bit too patient there
I think he's more like in a coma
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who needs probes anyways, right?
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when will the ByuL free fall end?
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Hahahaha it's like they both battle who's worse.
What a crappy game :p
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Holy shit how bad is Byul.
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On June 19 2016 18:14 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:14 Fyzar wrote:
Overlord flies over his nexus to his natural base and he still doesn't react.. Patience come on buddy he moved sentries to 3rd lol, but then he didnt react to nat it was pretty funny
And then he wins anyways. Great stuff 8)
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This was an absurdly bad game
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lol what the hell was that game
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last time Patience was grinning this way was when he blink all-ined INnoVation out of Dreamhack in 2014
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On June 19 2016 18:14 Ej_ wrote:
rip Patience's hype train 2016-2016
You were saying?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36923 Posts
On June 19 2016 18:16 Phredxor wrote:
Holy shit how bad is Byul.
LotV ByuL is nowhere near as good and effective as HotS ByuL :/
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what the fuck just happened. He just had no units!
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Ok. Who needs a minimal anyways?
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Wow, so much went wrong for Patience in this game and he still rekt ByuL. ByuL also got hurt a lot losing all those drones though.
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You guys are saying it was a bad game but you will see that more and more ZvP games will look like this, or you will not since they will not use zergs :D
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On June 19 2016 18:16 Seeker wrote:LotV ByuL is nowhere near as good and effective as HotS ByuL :/
Seriously. It's sad.
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this is the continuation of horrible games from yesterday
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What happend to byul 
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On June 19 2016 18:17 HooHooH wrote:What happend to byul
I'd tell you, but the mods are watching.
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Why can ByuL not win in LotV?
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On June 19 2016 18:17 Nerchio wrote:
You guys are saying it was a bad game but you will see that more and more ZvP games will look like this, or you will not since they will not use zergs :D
this was a bad game tho
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Valdes looks like a 13 yo. He's going full Benjamin Button
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On June 19 2016 18:17 HooHooH wrote:What happend to byul
He is doing bad since quite a while, happy I picked him on my FPL anti team lol.
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On June 19 2016 18:17 Nerchio wrote:
You guys are saying it was a bad game but you will see that more and more ZvP games will look like this, or you will not since they will not use zergs :D
You would seriously say this was due to imba?
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On June 19 2016 18:17 Noonius wrote:
this is the continuation of horrible games from yesterday
i found it quite enjoyable. sneaky pylons, bane drops and adept harass. cool stuff
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On June 19 2016 18:18 Noonius wrote:
Valdes looks like a 13 yo. He's going full Benjamin Button
what a contrast with grandpa Tasteless
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Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Patience?No. (16) 70% Good game. (4) 17% Very good game. (2) 9% If you have time. (1) 4% One of the best games of the season. (0) 0% 23 total votes Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Patience? (Vote): No.
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Good game.
(Vote): Very good game.
(Vote): One of the best games of the season.
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On June 19 2016 18:17 HooHooH wrote:What happend to byul
Protoss happened
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That was just a pretty weird game, holy shit. Polls?
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Don't worry. Zerg guaranteed one win tonight no matter what.
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On June 19 2016 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:17 Noonius wrote:
this is the continuation of horrible games from yesterday
i found it quite enjoyable. sneaky pylons, bane drops and adept harass. cool stuff
Really?
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Now let's watch the next LotV failzerg
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On June 19 2016 18:21 Penev wrote:
Now let's watch the next LotV failzerg
my anti-team's captain
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On June 19 2016 18:19 Aunvilgodess wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:17 Nerchio wrote:
You guys are saying it was a bad game but you will see that more and more ZvP games will look like this, or you will not since they will not use zergs :D You would seriously say this was due to imba?
Sorry but when I see 3 adepts chased by 20 zerglings that can still kill 10 drones I don't see anything else
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The gatekeeper vs the guy who has a free pass through the gate this year
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MajOr has the best alts, like Britney, Princess, Kitty
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On June 19 2016 18:22 Ej_ wrote:my anti-team's captain
Mine too 
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On June 19 2016 18:22 Noonius wrote:
MajOr has the best alts, like Britney, Princess, Kitty
Britney is an ID of an actual BW progamer.
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On June 19 2016 18:22 showstealer1829 wrote:
The gatekeeper vs the guy who has a free pass through the gate this year
...he may get 2 free passes this year.. lol
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and here's where Curious dies
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On June 19 2016 18:24 Heartland wrote:
I miss day9
i miss when day9 knew starcraft
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Must be fun to have total air-dominance.
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So far so good, it's because we got 'm on our anti's Ej_..
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bunny getting zero damage done. i think that's game
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T on even supply with roach zerg, this will go well
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On June 19 2016 18:27 Penev wrote:
So far so good, it's because we got 'm on our anti's Ej_..
are you really doubting Terran on Dusk Towers
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On June 19 2016 18:27 Charoisaur wrote:
bunny getting zero damage done. i think that's game
shift banshee to the rescue
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On June 19 2016 18:27 Charoisaur wrote:
bunny getting zero damage done. i think that's game
finally.
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On June 19 2016 18:28 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:27 Penev wrote:
So far so good, it's because we got 'm on our anti's Ej_.. are you really doubting Terran on Dusk Towers
I'm doubting every aspect of my FPL at this point
But Bunny has this
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Do we ever see anything else than Roach/Ravager in TvZ?
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On June 19 2016 18:29 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Do we ever see anything else than Roach/Ravager in TvZ?
there's roach/ling/ravager into roach/bane/corruptor, but Dark is the only one that doesn't die with it
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On June 19 2016 18:29 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Do we ever see anything else than Roach/Ravager in TvZ?
Sometimes zerg dies before even that.
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TEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAANNN
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Zerg makes me sad
At least it's good for my FPL
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Zergs getting trashed. Lol.
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Come on Bomber, I want to see MC!
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Poor Zerg
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I think Terran should be excluded from competition for doping
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only Dark can hive rush succesfully.
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praise be the curious anti
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Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Curious?If you have time. (9) 47% No. (8) 42% Good game. (2) 11% Very good game. (0) 0% One of the best games of the season. (0) 0% 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Curious? (Vote): No.
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Good game.
(Vote): Very good game.
(Vote): One of the best games of the season.
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On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL
Exactly, went as many Terrans as possible and full Zerg anti (Curous, ByuL and Armani, quite nice so far).
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On June 19 2016 18:29 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:29 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Do we ever see anything else than Roach/Ravager in TvZ?
there's roach/ling/ravager into roach/bane/corruptor, but Dark is the only one that doesn't die with it
And thats not because he is playing strategically better.
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No ability to do any damage to terran for the whole game without going all-in. Fair game.
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What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit
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so am i just being cynical or has the skill level in Korea dropped kind of considerably over the last 6 months or so? haven't really been following the scene much and a lot of the games i've seen recently look pretty bad tbh
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On June 19 2016 18:32 RaFox17 wrote:
No ability to do any damage to terran for the whole game without going all-in. Fair game.
bane drops...?
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On June 19 2016 18:25 Ej_ wrote:i miss when day9 knew starcraft
when is Project Atlas getting released? I'm betting 2020
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On June 19 2016 18:32 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL Exactly, went as many Terrans as possible and full Zerg anti (Curous, ByuL and Armani, quite nice so far).
I have a full protoss team with 2 zergs and creator on anti
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Nice from the pricks to field a Zerg as well so CJ could equalize
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On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit
you're supposed to be Dark
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36923 Posts
On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL
New motto:
Zerg makes me sad
Terran makes me glad
Protoss makes me mad
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that sound of the bottle cap opening in that ad is like someone breaking a neck
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On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit
if zerg could defend everything easily they would win every game since hive tech is quite good.
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On June 19 2016 18:32 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:32 RaFox17 wrote:
No ability to do any damage to terran for the whole game without going all-in. Fair game. bane drops...?
Would be nice if you did not have to rely on your opponent being bad. Also if they attack you while you are doing that you will most likely just die.
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On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:32 HolydaKing wrote:On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL Exactly, went as many Terrans as possible and full Zerg anti (Curous, ByuL and Armani, quite nice so far). I have a full protoss team with 2 zergs and creator on anti
2 Z and Creator on anti as well haha
poor Creator..
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On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit
Git gud. Probably.
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On June 19 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On June 19 2016 18:32 HolydaKing wrote:On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL Exactly, went as many Terrans as possible and full Zerg anti (Curous, ByuL and Armani, quite nice so far). I have a full protoss team with 2 zergs and creator on anti 2 Z and Creator on anti as well haha poor Creator..
Curious, Creator and BravO for me. Working out well so far.
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Impact and Curious on my anti and then for some reason I added Gumiho and I have no idea why...
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On June 19 2016 18:33 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL New motto: Zerg makes me sad Terran makes me glad Protoss makes me mad
What a sad way of seing sc2 ^^
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On June 19 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On June 19 2016 18:32 HolydaKing wrote:On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL Exactly, went as many Terrans as possible and full Zerg anti (Curous, ByuL and Armani, quite nice so far). I have a full protoss team with 2 zergs and creator on anti 2 Z and Creator on anti as well haha poor Creator..
Curious and Creator? Is your 3rd Solar by any chance?
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Poor zerg TT
On the double-plus side, it means that we definitely see El Presidente, the Bosstoss, today <3
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On June 19 2016 18:35 atrox_ wrote:
Impact and Curious on my anti and then for some reason I added Gumiho and I have no idea why...
Ouch, that'll bite you.
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I wish Blizz makes BL Infestor Swarmhost viable
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On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit you're supposed to be Dark
Considering the only Terran Dark has beat recently is Innovation and that was barely a win I don't think even that is true
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On June 19 2016 18:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On June 19 2016 18:32 HolydaKing wrote:On June 19 2016 18:30 Durnuu wrote:Zerg makes me sad At least it's good for my FPL Exactly, went as many Terrans as possible and full Zerg anti (Curous, ByuL and Armani, quite nice so far). I have a full protoss team with 2 zergs and creator on anti 2 Z and Creator on anti as well haha poor Creator.. Curious and Creator? Is your 3rd Solar by any chance?
Yep ex dee
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On June 19 2016 18:36 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit you're supposed to be Dark Considering the only Terran Dark has beat recently is Innovation and that was barely a win I don't think even that is true
He beat TY in cross finals not too long ago.
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On June 19 2016 18:36 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit you're supposed to be Dark Considering the only Terran Dark has beat recently is Innovation and that was barely a win I don't think even that is true
he has lost only 2 bo3+ series in LotV to Terran
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Vs herO.. At least he can't disappoint this way
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On June 19 2016 18:36 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On June 19 2016 18:32 showstealer1829 wrote:
What the hell is Zerg meant to do there?
You scout. You lose
You don't scout. You lose
You get the right comp. You lose
You don't get the right comp. You lose
I mean I don't usually balance whine but even as a protoss. That was bullshit you're supposed to be Dark Considering the only Terran Dark has beat recently is Innovation and that was barely a win I don't think even that is true
INnoVations TvZ is still top
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On June 19 2016 18:36 EvilSusan wrote:
Poor zerg TT
On the double-plus side, it means that we definitely see El Presidente, the Bosstoss, today <3
I have no problem at all when it comes to zerg suffering
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Anyway moving.on. Overgrowth is still a stupid fucking map
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On June 19 2016 18:39 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:36 EvilSusan wrote:
Poor zerg TT
On the double-plus side, it means that we definitely see El Presidente, the Bosstoss, today <3 I have no problem at all when it comes to zerg suffering
that's cuz u don't have a soul to begin with
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Isn't Tasteless also from new england?
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bunny was the last terran to drop a map vs zerg in proleague - 2 months ago today vs Dark 
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don't know why you'd go early oracle
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Some Chinese went mass Oracle and rekt some zergs
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On June 19 2016 18:42 Charoisaur wrote:
don't know why you'd go early oracle
don't know why you'd move out like that
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On June 19 2016 18:44 Charoisaur wrote:
cyclone upgrade wtf
that's how you know it's actually Bomber in the booth
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Last time I saw that upgrade in a PvT was during BrAvO vs Zest. It didn't end well for BrAvO
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Oracle winning the vs Cyclone match so far
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I bet this will fail horribly
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cyclones vs oracles, what am I watching ?
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Oh come on Bomber, we all know the cyclone is trash, dont build it.
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On June 19 2016 18:42 Scarlett` wrote:bunny was the last terran to drop a map vs zerg in proleague - 2 months ago today vs Dark
Yea.. but we have ultras
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On June 19 2016 18:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
cyclones vs oracles, what am I watching ?
Bomber proving a point
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The biggest problem with cyclones is how damn ugly they are. What was Blizzards art team smoking that day, srsly.
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If this works, Nathanias will be ecstatic!
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So the counter to cyclones are mass adept. Not surprising tbh.
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Nerf adepts. They are idiotic.
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some beautiful shades right there
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He should make some DT just for fun.
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So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
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The cyclone upgrade was very useful, herO didn't make a single armored unit
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Build a wall at the natural and 2 tanks and you win Bomber
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Bomber?No. (11) 65% If you have time. (3) 18% Good game. (2) 12% One of the best games of the season. (1) 6% Very good game. (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Bomber? (Vote): No.
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Good game.
(Vote): Very good game.
(Vote): One of the best games of the season.
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On June 19 2016 18:48 MyrionSC wrote:
So the counter to cyclones are units. Not surprising tbh.
fixed
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I wish you could win games by just making 20-30 lings and a-moving.
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On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
wall the nat would have helped
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On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
Not with Cyclones
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On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
raceswitch to toss, go counter mass adept?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36923 Posts
I never thought I'd say this but avilo is right. Adepts need some sort of downside to using shade so that they can't just freely use it without any negative effects.
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On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
If it is perfect executed, you dont.
If not, Liberators.
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That was brutal.
But I wouldn't judge TvP based on this game because of Bombers BO and the Proxy.
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beautiful adept micro tasteless!
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On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
not waste 400 gas on 3 cyclones + upgrade is a first step
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On June 19 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? wall the nat
make any form of splash behind it and you just watch protoss tears
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Even though Protoss won....like I said
On June 19 2016 18:39 showstealer1829 wrote:
Overgrowth is still a stupid fucking map
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On June 19 2016 18:49 Seeker wrote:
avilo is right.
Now calm down a bit
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On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators.
Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead?
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I stayed up to watch Proleague. I am kind of regretting it now. But MC saved that Code A night maybe he'll save this match too
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bomber's moveout across the map with the cyclone and 10 marines was terrible though. He would have been in an okay position, if he had just stayed on the defensive.
Still an absolutely disgusting style of protoss though.
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On June 19 2016 18:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? not waste 400 gas on 3 cyclones + upgrade is a first step
Not throwing away said 400 gas plus a bunch of marines with a terrible early game push is a second step.
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On June 19 2016 18:50 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators. Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead?
Not really: You need the libs to get off a warpprism that fucks up your army-positioning with adept drops.
Then you build a wall (go trump?) at the natural and let the protoss pay for it by giving them the taste of freedom dosed in zones.
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MC hype! Please don't let me down, Mr Bosstoss sir.
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On June 19 2016 18:51 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:50 RaFox17 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators. Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead? Not really: You need the libs to get off a warpprism that fucks up your army-positioning with adept drops. Then you build a wall (go trump?) at the natural and let the protoss pay for it by giving them the taste of freedom dosed in zones.
then protoss takes third and you are behind
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On June 19 2016 18:49 Seeker wrote:
I never thought I'd say this but avilo is right.
Now THAT'S going too far . "avilo" and "is right" are two things that NEVER should be in the same sentence
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On June 19 2016 18:51 CynicalDeath wrote:...ByuL is devastated by the loss and not even joining the team during the breakes...
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MC is looking so sexy on that pic
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They used InCa's picture for MC, cute
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It's good to see MC in PL at least
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all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards
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On June 19 2016 18:51 CynicalDeath wrote:...ByuL is devastated by the loss and not even joining the team during the breakes...
I feel for him. He dodged so many bullets that game. His overlord drops did insane damage as his opponnent literally didn't react at all to them, and still he lost to the power of adepts
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On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards
heh heh what about the shade not giving any vision
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On June 19 2016 18:52 MperorM1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:51 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:50 RaFox17 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators. Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead? Not really: You need the libs to get off a warpprism that fucks up your army-positioning with adept drops. Then you build a wall (go trump?) at the natural and let the protoss pay for it by giving them the taste of freedom dosed in zones. then protoss takes third and you are behind
Then you send your liberators over and bring freedom to their baes. And a drop or 2.
And in normal games, you are always behind against protoss, you cant change it. You have seen that he can just take a Third while mass adepting. You cant fight a protoss third as terran on equal at the moment. Terrans have to live with the insane protoss economy.
We have seen in this game, that Zest took his natural far later then bomber, still he had more probes all the time.
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On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy?
By not wasting so much resource on cyclones and its stupid upgrade when you could have made tanks or mines
By not moving out for no reason and have almost all your marines and cyclones get caught by 4 oracles and a bunch of adepts in the middle of the map
By not staying on 2 bases when Protoss took 3rd a while ago
Instead of getting ready to whine at every opportunity, maybe you should have actually watched the game.
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On June 19 2016 18:52 MperorM1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:51 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:50 RaFox17 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators. Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead? Not really: You need the libs to get off a warpprism that fucks up your army-positioning with adept drops. Then you build a wall (go trump?) at the natural and let the protoss pay for it by giving them the taste of freedom dosed in zones. then protoss takes third and you are behind
when he has only adepts with no tech you aren't really behind.
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On June 19 2016 18:54 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards heh heh what about the shade not giving any vision
well it would take away a lot of the interesting scouting mechanics, not sure about that one
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On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards
They can shade too often so protoss needs to do a mistake to get punished, when their shade finishes they can shade again really quickly, should be nerfed at least a couple of seconds like 3. Protoss is too forgiving overall with warp prism range + MSC recall/pylon + units like sentries/adepts/stalkers
On June 19 2016 18:55 PPN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? By not wasting so much resource on cyclones and its stupid upgrade when you could have made tanks or mines By not moving out for no reason and have almost all your marines and cyclones get caught by 4 oracles and a bunch of adepts in the middle of the map By not staying on 2 bases when Protoss took 3rd a while ago Instead of getting ready to whine at every opportunity, maybe you should have actually watched the game.
He moved out because that was the idea of making marine/cyclone .. to punish what Hero was doing
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On June 19 2016 18:56 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards They can shade too often so protoss needs to do a mistake to get punished, when their shade finishes they can shade again really quickly, should be nerfed at least a couple of seconds like 3. Protoss is too forgiving overall with warp prism range + MSC recall/pylon + units like sentries/adepts/stalkers
I definitely agree with nerfing the shade cooldown, even heavily ; you're right, the problem with the shade is how forgiving it is currently. If you nerf the cooldown (even double it) you don't affect Protoss' ability to take good engages with shades but you nerf to the ground all those idiotic mass adepts strategies, which is good.
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Intense micro battle boys.
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On June 19 2016 18:54 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:52 MperorM1 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:51 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:50 RaFox17 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators. Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead? Not really: You need the libs to get off a warpprism that fucks up your army-positioning with adept drops. Then you build a wall (go trump?) at the natural and let the protoss pay for it by giving them the taste of freedom dosed in zones. then protoss takes third and you are behind Then you send your liberators over and bring freedom to their baes. And a drop or 2. And in normal games, you are always behind against protoss, you cant change it. You have seen that he can just take a Third while mass adepting. You cant fight a protoss third as terran on equal at the moment. Terrans have to live with the insane protoss economy. We have seen in this game, that Zest took his natural far later then bomber, still he had more probes all the time.
I wouldn't say "behind" as it's standard that protoss has more bases same as zerg always has more bases than terran.
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I thought MC was supposed to be the one to pray to Inca
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On June 19 2016 18:56 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards They can shade too often so protoss needs to do a mistake to get punished, when their shade finishes they can shade again really quickly, should be nerfed at least a couple of seconds like 3. Protoss is too forgiving overall with warp prism range + MSC recall/pylon + units like sentries/adepts/stalkers Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:55 PPN wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? By not wasting so much resource on cyclones and its stupid upgrade when you could have made tanks or mines By not moving out for no reason and have almost all your marines and cyclones get caught by 4 oracles and a bunch of adepts in the middle of the map By not staying on 2 bases when Protoss took 3rd a while ago Instead of getting ready to whine at every opportunity, maybe you should have actually watched the game. He moved out because that was the idea of making marine/cyclone .. to punish what Hero was doing
a general rule in tvp is that you shouldn't be aggressive in early game outside of some liberator/mine harassment.
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On June 19 2016 18:58 showstealer1829 wrote:I thought MC was supposed to be the one to pray to Inca
Maybe he did and Inca has already warned him of what is coming.
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On June 19 2016 18:57 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:54 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:52 MperorM1 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:51 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:50 RaFox17 wrote:On June 19 2016 18:49 Clonester wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? If it is perfect executed, you dont. If not, Liberators. Aren´t they too slow to kill them before everything you have is dead? Not really: You need the libs to get off a warpprism that fucks up your army-positioning with adept drops. Then you build a wall (go trump?) at the natural and let the protoss pay for it by giving them the taste of freedom dosed in zones. then protoss takes third and you are behind Then you send your liberators over and bring freedom to their baes. And a drop or 2. And in normal games, you are always behind against protoss, you cant change it. You have seen that he can just take a Third while mass adepting. You cant fight a protoss third as terran on equal at the moment. Terrans have to live with the insane protoss economy. We have seen in this game, that Zest took his natural far later then bomber, still he had more probes all the time. I wouldn't say "behind" as it's standard that protoss has more bases same as zerg always has more bases than terran.
Protoss now has a faster economy then Zerg. In HOTS both races payed that with less army and more eco and you could punish them. Now he can have equal army with adepts (who are stronger then non stim/cs marines on same supply) and still is ahead 20 worker and a base.
It is balanced out by Terran having a really strong timing army with 2-2 MMM + Liberators against Protoss who miss mostly either units or storm when it hits. But you fall economicaly behind terran has to fight that later when he gets his "core" army
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I still can't get over how different Korean PvP is compared to foreign PvP.
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MC got caught offguard by that attack
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Poll: Recommend MC vs Super?If you have time. (7) 58% Good game. (4) 33% No. (1) 8% Very good game. (0) 0% One of the best games of the season. (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend MC vs Super? (Vote): No.
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Good game.
(Vote): Very good game.
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MC Classic? He means Zest
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Ez Super, Ez Patience.
Patience herO or Super herO ace match. Depending who the Afreeca coach sees to be better in PvP
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We know they're not picking Zergs
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ok which Protosses are they going to send ? 
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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herO vs aLive inc
Actually, I don't know if aLive is in the studio
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Yes Patience and A.Freecs on my team and Bomber on anti. Good results so far.
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On June 19 2016 19:04 Penev wrote:
MC Classic? He means Zest
He keeps saying it over and over again
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On June 19 2016 18:56 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards They can shade too often so protoss needs to do a mistake to get punished, when their shade finishes they can shade again really quickly, should be nerfed at least a couple of seconds like 3. Protoss is too forgiving overall with warp prism range + MSC recall/pylon + units like sentries/adepts/stalkers Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:55 PPN wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? By not wasting so much resource on cyclones and its stupid upgrade when you could have made tanks or mines By not moving out for no reason and have almost all your marines and cyclones get caught by 4 oracles and a bunch of adepts in the middle of the map By not staying on 2 bases when Protoss took 3rd a while ago Instead of getting ready to whine at every opportunity, maybe you should have actually watched the game. He moved out because that was the idea of making marine/cyclone .. to punish what Hero was doing
That move out was not remotely close to punishing anything of what hero was doing. Sounds like a bad decision to me.
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lol PvP ace match incoming...
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Like it's a choice for CJ.
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yeah herO Patience sounds like the most likely scenario
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herO Bomber, Bomber going Cyclone Battle cruiser
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...wow, didn't expect Super!
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Go Super!
On June 19 2016 19:05 Penev wrote:
herO Bomber, Bomber going Cyclone Battle cruiser
1 Base Thor-Repair-All in would be better
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I just had horrible 3 gate flashbacks
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On June 19 2016 19:04 Clonester wrote:
Ez Super, Ez Patience.
Patience herO or Super herO ace match. Depending who the Afreeca coach sees to be better in PvP
Well done
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On June 19 2016 19:06 CynicalDeath wrote:
...wow, didn't expect Super!
well he is the best player
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On June 19 2016 19:05 Charoisaur wrote:
herO vs Curious
Damn I wanted more Zerg tears
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On June 19 2016 19:05 Edpayasugo wrote:He keeps saying it over and over again
Probably compensating for not recognizing Classic for so long
Like they're doing with Stats now
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we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to be and ends up being a PvP
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Super OP ... so glad, I removed him at the end from my anti!
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On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP
Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans.
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On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans.
worst thing is that might actually be true atm in KR, but it's really hard to assess such a statement
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On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to be and ends up being a PvP
Current balance: P>T>Z>my grandma (barely)
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On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans.
you forgot to put "Kappa" or at least "/s" there.
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Should sent Patience for my FPL. Also because his PvP is so much fun to watch,with his phoenixes
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On June 19 2016 19:10 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to be and ends up being a PvP Current balance: P>T>Z>my grandma (barely)
You underestimate your grandma ...
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On June 19 2016 19:10 killerm12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. you forgot to put "Kappa" or at least "/s" there.
I knew I was forgetting something
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Did I mention my grandma is dead?
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On June 19 2016 19:10 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to be and ends up being a PvP Current balance: P>T>Z>my grandma (barely)
P>T is debatable (see recent SSL results ; most GSL code A TvP ended up in P favor but were very close). Sadly yeah atm P>Z and T>>>>>>Z.
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if herO wins twice again the other CJ players should kiss his feets
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On June 19 2016 19:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:10 Penev wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to be and ends up being a PvP Current balance: P>T>Z>my grandma (barely) P>T is debatable (see recent SSL results ; most GSL code A TvP ended up in P favor but were very close). Sadly yeah atm P>Z and T>>>>>>Z.
P>Z
T>>>Z
dead grandma barely > Z
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On June 19 2016 18:56 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
all that being said some kind of adept nerf (at least something about the shade cooldown) should be on the cards They can shade too often so protoss needs to do a mistake to get punished, when their shade finishes they can shade again really quickly, should be nerfed at least a couple of seconds like 3. Protoss is too forgiving overall with warp prism range + MSC recall/pylon + units like sentries/adepts/stalkers Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 18:55 PPN wrote:On June 19 2016 18:48 Nerchio wrote:
So how exactly do you stop this stupid strategy? By not wasting so much resource on cyclones and its stupid upgrade when you could have made tanks or mines By not moving out for no reason and have almost all your marines and cyclones get caught by 4 oracles and a bunch of adepts in the middle of the map By not staying on 2 bases when Protoss took 3rd a while ago Instead of getting ready to whine at every opportunity, maybe you should have actually watched the game. He moved out because that was the idea of making marine/cyclone .. to punish what Hero was doing
I don't think moving out with the flimsiest factory unit and mostly light units is meant to punish anything when you face Protoss units that fly/shade faster and are designed to better kill light units. Widow mines, or waiting for any starport units timing would have been far better than anything Bomber did.
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On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans.
You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled
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#1 match of the week aka "Let's watch Zerg get raped....again"
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On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled
They also have larger penises and are better lovers too, don't forget that part
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On June 19 2016 19:13 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 19 2016 19:10 Penev wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to be and ends up being a PvP Current balance: P>T>Z>my grandma (barely) P>T is debatable (see recent SSL results ; most GSL code A TvP ended up in P favor but were very close). Sadly yeah atm P>Z and T>>>>>>Z. P>Z T>>>Z dead grandma barely > Z
only P>Z? I rarely see Zergs win in ZvP. Maybe there should be more >
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On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled
Zest is best. We indeed are more handsome thanks to him.
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On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled
TY, Maru or Sexiboi Rogue would disagree with that statement.
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On June 19 2016 19:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled They also have larger penises and are better lovers too, don't forget that part
they also jump higher
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On June 19 2016 19:17 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled They also have larger penises and are better lovers too, don't forget that part they also jump higher
When you go Toss, you never take a loss
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On June 19 2016 19:18 Charoisaur wrote:
pvp not exciting
that's because we get too much of it ; otherwise it's become a great mu in LotV
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On June 19 2016 19:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled They also have larger penises and are better lovers too, don't forget that part
have you been googling "starcraft 2 rule 34" again?
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It's been years since a PL team got carried as hard as CJ is getting carried by herO atm.
Has :D
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On June 19 2016 19:17 killerm12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled TY, Maru or Sexiboi Rogue would disagree with that statement.
there's no need to be vulgar
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On June 19 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:that's because we get too much of it ; otherwise it's become a great mu in LotV
I mostly close the stream once pvp comes so i haven't really seen many pvps.
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On June 19 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:
It's been years since a PL team got carried as hard as CJ is getting carried by herO atm.
Has :D
I can think of one team
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Oh come on Super, Nexus first in PvP?????
On June 19 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:
It's been years since a PL team got carried as hard as CJ is getting carried by herO atm.
Has :D
Startale first season of 2015. By the one whos name has been fanished.
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Has is gonna bestow his bullshit onto this game
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On June 19 2016 19:20 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 19 2016 19:18 Charoisaur wrote:
pvp not exciting that's because we get too much of it ; otherwise it's become a great mu in LotV I mostly close the stream once pvp comes so i haven't really seen many pvps.
all that P hatred pains me
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On June 19 2016 19:21 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Has is gonna bestow his bullshit onto this game
Has is already like "Proxy robo? This is what I came to see!"
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On June 19 2016 19:19 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On June 19 2016 19:13 showstealer1829 wrote:On June 19 2016 19:09 Phredxor wrote:On June 19 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
we'll know the balance is good again when not every ace match in Proleague is expected to and ends up being a PvP Protoss players are just more skilled than Zergs and Terrans. You forgot "And much more handsome" after more skilled They also have larger penises and are better lovers too, don't forget that part have you been googling "starcraft 2 rule 34" again?
Googling? I have that stuff bookmarked :p
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On June 19 2016 19:20 Clonester wrote:Oh come on Super, Nexus first in PvP????? Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:
It's been years since a PL team got carried as hard as CJ is getting carried by herO atm.
Has :D Startale first season of 2015. By the one whos name has been fanished.
Life barely won more than half his games. Granted, he won every ace match, but he didn't carry his team nearly as hard as herO.
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Good thing MSC build time is 1,5 seconds..
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On June 19 2016 19:24 Charoisaur wrote:
this is game over is is?
is is
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Where dat snitch at?36923 Posts
Uhhh... herO... You do realize that Super is dead right?
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On June 19 2016 19:24 Charoisaur wrote:
this is game over is is?
herO has won. He only needs to pick all his army and amove.
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On June 19 2016 19:25 CynicalDeath wrote:
...why the recall?
Prism got away and he was too scared to go up the ramp
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On June 19 2016 19:25 Elentos wrote:Prism got away and he was too scared to go up the ramp
Which I don't get because he clearly scouted with the phoenix that Super had nothing... Just force out a photon overcharge, wait for it to end, and then go kill him. You have 3 flipping immortals...
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herO found a way to throw a way a won game. Respect
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biggest throw of all time
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herO looks shaky
still wins tho
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On June 19 2016 19:25 Elentos wrote:Prism got away and he was too scared to go up the ramp
...yes but he had just scouted the whole base with the hall. phoenix and saw he had nothing so I still don't get it...
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What the hell is herO doing?
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It's truly astonishing how herO manages to fuck up sometimes. A player of his calibre...
Edit: He was too far ahead to really throw it I guess?
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On June 19 2016 19:28 CynicalDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:25 Elentos wrote:On June 19 2016 19:25 CynicalDeath wrote:
...why the recall? Prism got away and he was too scared to go up the ramp ...yes but he hd just scouted the whole base with the hall. phoenix and saw he had nothing so I still don't get it...
When ahead, get more ahead. Artosis has possessed Proleague.
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herO sure botched that. But he's too far ahead.
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On June 19 2016 19:28 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
What the hell is herO doing?
letting Super to start protossing
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Patience would have already won
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This is a tug-of-war of "Hey, I want YOU to actually win this game."
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On June 19 2016 19:30 Kerence wrote:
What is this game?
Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void
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Wow what a bad game, amazing
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So herO did everything to help Super win, but he still couldn't win it.
Patience would have taken this so easy.
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that was a nail-biter. maybe I should watc more pvp
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Poll: Recommend the ace match?Good game. (13) 57% No. (5) 22% If you have time. (5) 22% Very good game. (0) 0% One of the best games of the season. (0) 0% 23 total votes Your vote: Recommend the ace match? (Vote): No.
(Vote): If you have time.
(Vote): Good game.
(Vote): Very good game.
(Vote): One of the best games of the season.
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jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt
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On June 19 2016 19:31 showstealer1829 wrote:
PVP MIRROR BEST MIRROR!
begone, heathen
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Proleague is herO's bitch
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On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt
medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid
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I love see Protoss losing PvP, because they die to Protoss Bullshit all the time.
But this game was disgusting and it should be burried right next to the E.T. games in the desert.
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On June 19 2016 19:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Proleague is herO's bitch
Most wins for 3 consecutive years. The question is who he will tie with this year.
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On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid
because protoss shouldn't be allowed to have good harassment options
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i am now going to watch Tempest demolish their DH group so someone else handle the LR
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On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid
the phenomenon of doom drops as an extremely popular 'strategy' to end a game outright is solely due to the boost
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On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid
Why don't terrans upgrade the boost duration? Feels like it be so good in TvT
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On June 19 2016 19:30 Heartland wrote:Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void
If you say so, it looked like they were playing something else there for a while.
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On June 19 2016 19:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid because protoss shouldn't be allowed to have good harassment options
the warp prism was already effective in its prior state.
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On June 19 2016 19:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid Why don't terrans upgrade the boost duration? Feels like it be so good in TvT
you need techlab for the upgrade. Also there are basically no situations where I'd think the longer duration would make an impactful difference except maybe in tvz vs mutas.
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On June 19 2016 19:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid because protoss shouldn't be allowed to have good harassment options
warp prism was good harass, now its also extremely forgiving
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On June 19 2016 19:35 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:33 Charoisaur wrote:On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid because protoss shouldn't be allowed to have good harassment options the warp prism was already effective in its prior state.
yeah but stronger harassment is always better because worker harass is so cool
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Curious & ByuL lost lol, best anti
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On June 19 2016 19:38 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 19:35 EatingBomber wrote:On June 19 2016 19:33 Charoisaur wrote:On June 19 2016 19:33 Noonius wrote:On June 19 2016 19:31 EatingBomber wrote:
jesus the warp prism pick up range is obnoxious even in the mirror... just like the medivac boost in tvt medivac boost actually serves a purpose, prism pickup range combined with adepts is just stupid because protoss shouldn't be allowed to have good harassment options the warp prism was already effective in its prior state. yeah but stronger harassment is always better because worker harass is so cool
I see what you're doing there haha
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