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Elentos
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On June 16 2016 21:51 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 21:48 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:44 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:41 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:36 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:32 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:30 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:27 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:22 Diabolique wrote:On June 16 2016 21:18 Diabolique wrote:
So ByuN is joining Samsung? Well played ... So after the last game, I do not like ByuN anymore. Neeb 4-0 ByuN, does ByuN join Team TING? Come on let's not pretend like you don't see where he is coming from. I think it's dumb to hate Byun for it but the probability is fairly high. It's bullshit to accuse them of matchfixing (yes, that's what it would be) because you saw them have friendly chats a few times. And if he doesn't join Samsung it just makes you look like assholes. All right let's pretend like you don't see where he is coming from then. Suit yourself. Did I say I don't see it? I'm just saying he could very well be wrong and he's accusing them of match-fixing. And I don't know if you know, but match-fixing is kind of a huge deal and those accusations shouldn't be thrown around so easily. The system acknowledges that players will do that when they are put in the situation by making players of the same team play each other first. If we really expected players to not do this type of stuff when they are in this type of situation, there would be no need to change the order of the games. There is such a need, because players have huge incentive to do exactly that. This "accusation" is just that Byun might have done what any other player would have done. It's not a big deal at all, but there's no reason to act blind either. Losing games on purpose is a big deal. You're not allowed to lose on purpose and if you do, KeSPA will take your head if they can prove it. Oh right, ByuN was seen talking to Stork and Dear on camera, well I guess he's fucked. Well no of course he's not fucked, like you said, because you can't prove it. And if you could prove it, I don't think he should be fucked for that.
If it happened and they could prove it, ByuN, Dear and Stork would be in trouble.
For now, I'll assume he just lost because he has trouble against Protoss. Of course, you're still free to assume that he lost on purpose. But be careful what you post in the internet. I'm pretty sure there are still people who are adamant that MarineKing was a match-fixer because the witch hunt was big enough.
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so close Rogue. at least 2 of the 3 guys I wanted got through. Byun needs to work on his TvP :/
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Ok guys it's confirmed, the last match looked really suspicious and I found this Korean article that is talking about Byun throwing against Dear
http://tinyurl.com/2fcpre6
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On June 16 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 21:51 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:48 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:44 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:41 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:36 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:32 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:30 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:27 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:22 Diabolique wrote:
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So after the last game, I do not like ByuN anymore. Neeb 4-0 ByuN, does ByuN join Team TING? Come on let's not pretend like you don't see where he is coming from. I think it's dumb to hate Byun for it but the probability is fairly high. It's bullshit to accuse them of matchfixing (yes, that's what it would be) because you saw them have friendly chats a few times. And if he doesn't join Samsung it just makes you look like assholes. All right let's pretend like you don't see where he is coming from then. Suit yourself. Did I say I don't see it? I'm just saying he could very well be wrong and he's accusing them of match-fixing. And I don't know if you know, but match-fixing is kind of a huge deal and those accusations shouldn't be thrown around so easily. The system acknowledges that players will do that when they are put in the situation by making players of the same team play each other first. If we really expected players to not do this type of stuff when they are in this type of situation, there would be no need to change the order of the games. There is such a need, because players have huge incentive to do exactly that. This "accusation" is just that Byun might have done what any other player would have done. It's not a big deal at all, but there's no reason to act blind either. Losing games on purpose is a big deal. You're not allowed to lose on purpose and if you do, KeSPA will take your head if they can prove it. Oh right, ByuN was seen talking to Stork and Dear on camera, well I guess he's fucked. Well no of course he's not fucked, like you said, because you can't prove it. And if you could prove it, I don't think he should be fucked for that. If it happened and they could prove it, ByuN, Dear and Stork would be in trouble. For now, I'll assume he just lost because he has trouble against Protoss. Of course, you're still free to assume that he lost on purpose. But be careful what you post in the internet. I'm pretty sure there are still people who are adamant that MarineKing was a match-fixer because the witch hunt was big enough.
I realize they would be, I'm just saying I don't think they should. I think there's a big difference between throwing a match for money and throwing a match cause it doesn't matter to you and it favors your team/friends/whatever. I think the latter is the fault of the organization for not creating a situation where this couldn't happen.
Btw people weren't adamant that Marineking was a matchfixer because of the size of the witch hunt ~~
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On June 16 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 21:51 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:48 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:44 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:41 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:36 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:32 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:30 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:27 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:22 Diabolique wrote:
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So after the last game, I do not like ByuN anymore. Neeb 4-0 ByuN, does ByuN join Team TING? Come on let's not pretend like you don't see where he is coming from. I think it's dumb to hate Byun for it but the probability is fairly high. It's bullshit to accuse them of matchfixing (yes, that's what it would be) because you saw them have friendly chats a few times. And if he doesn't join Samsung it just makes you look like assholes. All right let's pretend like you don't see where he is coming from then. Suit yourself. Did I say I don't see it? I'm just saying he could very well be wrong and he's accusing them of match-fixing. And I don't know if you know, but match-fixing is kind of a huge deal and those accusations shouldn't be thrown around so easily. The system acknowledges that players will do that when they are put in the situation by making players of the same team play each other first. If we really expected players to not do this type of stuff when they are in this type of situation, there would be no need to change the order of the games. There is such a need, because players have huge incentive to do exactly that. This "accusation" is just that Byun might have done what any other player would have done. It's not a big deal at all, but there's no reason to act blind either. Losing games on purpose is a big deal. You're not allowed to lose on purpose and if you do, KeSPA will take your head if they can prove it. Oh right, ByuN was seen talking to Stork and Dear on camera, well I guess he's fucked. Well no of course he's not fucked, like you said, because you can't prove it. And if you could prove it, I don't think he should be fucked for that. If it happened and they could prove it, ByuN, Dear and Stork would be in trouble. For now, I'll assume he just lost because he has trouble against Protoss. Of course, you're still free to assume that he lost on purpose. But be careful what you post in the internet. I'm pretty sure there are still people who are adamant that MarineKing was a match-fixer because the witch hunt was big enough.
There are degrees of match fixing, let's not bring the highest degree into the discussion
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Agreed on ByuN having problems with TvP. Playing vs Dear on last match was kinda painful. Even casters aknowledged how Dear would play and Dear did. ByuN got rekt.
EDIT: People do matchfixing accusations so lightly under recent cases... BTW, kudos nerchio!
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This discussion is nonsense. Nobody except of Elentos is talking here about match fixing.
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Diabolique, I like your sense of humour and your overall post content man, I really do. But you were the one *implying* such thing happening. Denying that and making Elentos look like the one twisting things is bad mannered, imho.
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Wtf rogue. I hope Maru makes it. It'll be pretty sad if the proleague champions only gets one plyer into ssl.
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I think people should also chill a bit about match fixing. I joked about it yesterday concerning Armani and got the impression some people thought I was being serious. I mean, I rule out nothing but I obviously could not actually know
Chill get in!
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its difficult to joke about because of the nature of circumstances. so maybe just find a new way to joke about it? haha idk
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For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance!
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On June 16 2016 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
its difficult to joke about because of the nature of circumstances. so maybe just find a new way to joke about it? haha idk
That chill joke tho, great stuff (;
But yeah I'm not sure either but making things taboo is the worst thing we can do probably. You'd think it's not really too soon anymore
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Elentos
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On June 16 2016 22:02 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:51 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:48 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:44 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:41 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:36 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:32 Elentos wrote:On June 16 2016 21:30 Nebuchad wrote:On June 16 2016 21:27 Elentos wrote:
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Neeb 4-0 ByuN, does ByuN join Team TING? Come on let's not pretend like you don't see where he is coming from. I think it's dumb to hate Byun for it but the probability is fairly high. It's bullshit to accuse them of matchfixing (yes, that's what it would be) because you saw them have friendly chats a few times. And if he doesn't join Samsung it just makes you look like assholes. All right let's pretend like you don't see where he is coming from then. Suit yourself. Did I say I don't see it? I'm just saying he could very well be wrong and he's accusing them of match-fixing. And I don't know if you know, but match-fixing is kind of a huge deal and those accusations shouldn't be thrown around so easily. The system acknowledges that players will do that when they are put in the situation by making players of the same team play each other first. If we really expected players to not do this type of stuff when they are in this type of situation, there would be no need to change the order of the games. There is such a need, because players have huge incentive to do exactly that. This "accusation" is just that Byun might have done what any other player would have done. It's not a big deal at all, but there's no reason to act blind either. Losing games on purpose is a big deal. You're not allowed to lose on purpose and if you do, KeSPA will take your head if they can prove it. Oh right, ByuN was seen talking to Stork and Dear on camera, well I guess he's fucked. Well no of course he's not fucked, like you said, because you can't prove it. And if you could prove it, I don't think he should be fucked for that. If it happened and they could prove it, ByuN, Dear and Stork would be in trouble. For now, I'll assume he just lost because he has trouble against Protoss. Of course, you're still free to assume that he lost on purpose. But be careful what you post in the internet. I'm pretty sure there are still people who are adamant that MarineKing was a match-fixer because the witch hunt was big enough. I realize they would be, I'm just saying I don't think they should. I think there's a big difference between throwing a match for money and throwing a match cause it doesn't matter to you and it favors your team/friends/whatever. I think the latter is the fault of the organization for not creating a situation where this couldn't happen. Btw people weren't adamant that Marineking was a matchfixer because of the size of the witch hunt ~~
I'm pretty sure that's the reason why people still think he was even though official investigations found nothing.
Unless of course they think MarineKing was a criminal mastermind the likes of which the eSports scene has never seen before. And that'd be too weird.
I was really hoping Impact or Rogue advance ._.
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On June 16 2016 22:28 Railgan wrote:
For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance!
ME too. We need NesTea back to show us the way.
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On June 16 2016 23:34 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 22:28 Railgan wrote:
For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance! ME too. We need NesTea back to show us the way.
Or FruitDealer would be ok too 
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Elentos
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On June 16 2016 23:34 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 22:28 Railgan wrote:
For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance! ME too. We need NesTea back to show us the way.
He will find a way to roll banelings into liberators and all Zergs will rejoice.
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On June 16 2016 23:39 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 23:34 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 16 2016 22:28 Railgan wrote:
For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance! ME too. We need NesTea back to show us the way. He will find a way to roll banelings into liberators and all Zergs will rejoice.
that reminds me of the baneling shooter
god I want that
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On June 16 2016 22:28 Railgan wrote:
For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance!
Don't worry, I'm sure Losira will completely Wreck Maru, Zest, and herO.
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Elentos
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On June 16 2016 23:40 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2016 22:28 Railgan wrote:
For a second I thought a Zerg might actually advance! Don't worry, I'm sure Losira will completely Wreck Maru, Zest, and herO.
I think you're mistaking this for the parallel universe where Losira rules the world as Zerg bonwja.
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