EPTOn June 16 2016 23:39 Elentos wrote:
He will find a way to roll banelings into liberators and all Zergs will rejoice.
He will find a way to roll banelings into liberators and all Zergs will rejoice.
Oh the beauty!
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On June 16 2016 22:13 Penev wrote: I think people should also chill a bit about match fixing. I joked about it yesterday concerning Armani and got the impression some people thought I was being serious. I mean, I rule out nothing but I obviously could not actually know Chill get in! I don't think such thing should be taken lightly and to joke about tbh Also I agree with Elentos, even if ByuN was not doing it for money, if in any way you are manipulating the outcome of the match, according to Blizzard and KeSPA, it's already matchfixing, and they are not going to let those thing off lightly, so don't throw such accusation around, such things shouldn't be taken lightly | ||
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Penev
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On June 17 2016 00:37 NinjaToss wrote: I don't think such thing should be taken lightly and to joke about tbh Also I agree with Elentos, even if ByuN was not doing it for money, if in any way you are manipulating the outcome of the match, according to Blizzard and KeSPA, it's already matchfixing, and they are not going to let those thing off lightly, so don't throw such accusation around, such things shouldn't be taken lightly I don't approve of match fixing but let's not exaggerate. Also, match fixing is real and here to stay, making it taboo to joke about doesn't make it go away. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 17 2016 00:56 TheDougler wrote: So Losira is the final hope to avoid a Zerg extermination in the RO32. Has that ever happened for any race in a Korean league? I think the closest I can recall is only Sangho advancing to RO16 for Protoss one time. Dark and Solar are already in the round of 16 groups (there's no ro32). | ||
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Elentos
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On June 17 2016 00:49 Penev wrote: I don't approve of match fixing but let's not exaggerate. Also, match fixing is real and here to stay, making it taboo to joke about doesn't make it go away. So far you're the only one making jokes about it and nobody told you to stop yet. So you're golden. Rejoice! On June 17 2016 01:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Dark and Solar are already in the round of 16 groups (there's no ro32). Looking like Terran in GSL 2014. | ||
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Penev
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It's also wrong in nearly every aspect | ||
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Elentos
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On June 17 2016 02:11 Penev wrote: what a patronizing post Elentos, not sure why you think you had to do that It's also wrong in nearly every aspect On the contrary. It's not meant to be patronizing at all, it's a joke post with no serious message. Now it's actually like you making a joke about Armani match-fixing and people taking you seriously. Though if you did feel patronized, well, I apologize of course. | ||
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Penev
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On June 17 2016 02:42 Elentos wrote: On the contrary. It's not meant to be patronizing at all, it's a joke post with no serious message. Now it's actually like you making a joke about Armani match-fixing and people taking you seriously. Though if you did feel patronized, well, I apologize of course. I did not feel patronized, just disappointment. Hard to see the joke if at all but if you say so I accept of course | ||
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Elentos
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On June 17 2016 03:09 Penev wrote: I did not feel patronized, just disappointment. Hard to see the joke if at all but if you say so I accept of course Honestly it might just be that this particular post was especially crappy because I've not had a great day and am not feeling too well. Sorry about that. I still wish Impact or Rogue got through the group, we could use a new Zerg banjo. | ||
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Aiingel
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Penev
28524 Posts
On June 17 2016 03:17 Aiingel wrote: I don't like these "jokes" about matchfixing either. As a casual viewer I get a distasteful feeling when I'm reminded of it. I was having fun reading the discussions about the matches, then suddenly it's such a downer reading these suspicions about Byun. There were no jokes about that in the thread, just a discussion iirc | ||
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Elentos
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On June 17 2016 03:21 Penev wrote: There were no jokes about that in the thread, just a discussion iirc Mostly it was said at some point that ByuN might not be playing the final game against Dear seriously because they're friends and he's already qualified and then it was kind of implied that he might be losing on purpose/purposely holding back. So not really jokes. Although really nothing dead serious either, just a bit annoying. | ||
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Penev
28524 Posts
On June 17 2016 03:15 Elentos wrote: Honestly it might just be that this particular post was especially crappy because I've not had a great day and am not feeling too well. Sorry about that. I still wish Impact or Rogue got through the group, we could use a new Zerg banjo. Np, it's hard to make yourself perfectly understood in text, but more importantly, in just a few sentences. As is always properly understanding other peoples posts as well. This whole joking about match fixing thing is a good example, It's not coming across as I want it at all lol I should just stop posting about it Mostly it was said at some point that ByuN might not be playing the final game against Dear seriously because they're friends and he's already qualified and then it was kind of implied that he might be losing on purpose/purposely holding back. So not really jokes. Although really nothing dead serious either, just a bit annoying. I didn't mind people discussing the possibility but some said to be certain of it. I replied (Diabolique) to point him to another option. It is a weakness of this, for the most part, refreshing format | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On June 17 2016 03:28 Elentos wrote: Mostly it was said at some point that ByuN might not be playing the final game against Dear seriously because they're friends and he's already qualified and then it was kind of implied that he might be losing on purpose/purposely holding back. So not really jokes. Although really nothing dead serious either, just a bit annoying. I highly doubt Byun would do that AGAIN after what happened between him and Coca years ago. | ||
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megatroneo
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Elentos
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On June 17 2016 03:39 chipmonklord17 wrote: I highly doubt Byun would do that AGAIN after what happened between him and Coca years ago. It would be a very interesting level of stupid, I'd say. Neither of them had it easy after that. | ||
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Daswollvieh
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12425 Posts
There are plenty of situations where that happens and you don't blink an eye. Bratok and Stephano trying to lose to avoid whoever they had to avoid in whichever tournament that was. They were trying to lose, because they had incentive to. It's like when there was this WCS where three euro zergs won their groups and two korean terrans and Welmu finished second, and we were wondering if San would try to finish second in his group to play PvZ vs an european or not. The question could be asked because San had incentive to lose (he didn't, and lucked Welmu in the Ro8 draw). Let's say that Byun is playing Tangtang and if he loses, Zest finishes 4th and Tangtang finishes 3rd. Do you think he should try to win? He clearly has incentive to lose. In all of these situations, you recognize the incentive, and you don't say that if it's proven the people should be thrown in kespa jail. Now you have this situation where the incentive is just as evident as long as they are friends and probably future team mates, and suddenly Byun would be a terrible person to do it, or even worse, stupid or whatever. That makes no sense. | ||
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