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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 22 2016 18:16 GMT
#881
On January 23 2016 03:15 SlammerIV wrote:
Man I really dislike this single elim format, so much seems to be down to bracket luck

Also you guys noticed that Hydra seems to have a really easy bracket? the entire bottom side seems really weak compared to the top side :/

He almost lost to Namshar so Hydra is probably right where he belongs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
January 22 2016 18:17 GMT
#882
ugh... Not this...
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 22 2016 18:17 GMT
#883
On January 23 2016 03:14 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:12 Elentos wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:10 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:07 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:05 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:02 Shellshock wrote:
uthermal the terran hope


I hope not a single Terran advance out of Ro16 (Ironically there is only one). I just want to enjoy watching my ZPcraft. Not to prove that Terran is under powered and needs buff. But because I'm sick of Marines as Terran. At this point. Either Mech becomes viable and the standard style or that race can be wiped out of the face of the earth.

It is just too stupid to make the same unit early game or mid game or late game whether it is TvT or TvZ or TvP for 6 years. Enough is enough.

They will buff the medivac, speed, or hp, or the rate that units unload, or cost. They will buff the Medivac


The entire MMM playstyle must be eradicated.

...why?

It's boring
Muta/Ling/Bane? Marines.
Chargelot/Archon? Marines.
Roach/Ravager? Marines.
Disruptors? Marines.
It's the one-size-fit-all counter to everything, and if it doesn't counter it then Terran players cry imba in Twitch chat and Battle.net forums.



Plat leaguers please go away.
You don't even realize the amount of skill people like innovation pull when they indeed counter this with MMM.
RIP MKP
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 22 2016 18:17 GMT
#884
On January 23 2016 03:14 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:12 Elentos wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:10 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:07 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:05 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:02 Shellshock wrote:
uthermal the terran hope


I hope not a single Terran advance out of Ro16 (Ironically there is only one). I just want to enjoy watching my ZPcraft. Not to prove that Terran is under powered and needs buff. But because I'm sick of Marines as Terran. At this point. Either Mech becomes viable and the standard style or that race can be wiped out of the face of the earth.

It is just too stupid to make the same unit early game or mid game or late game whether it is TvT or TvZ or TvP for 6 years. Enough is enough.

They will buff the medivac, speed, or hp, or the rate that units unload, or cost. They will buff the Medivac


The entire MMM playstyle must be eradicated.

...why?

It's boring
Muta/Ling/Bane? Marines.
Chargelot/Archon? Marines.
Roach/Ravager? Marines.
Disruptors? Marines.
It's the one-size-fit-all counter to everything, and if it doesn't counter it then Terran players cry imba in Twitch chat and Battle.net forums.


Stale army compositions are fine as long as the tactics and strategy are diverse and interesting.
See Broodwar.
Moderator
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 22 2016 18:18 GMT
#885
I wonder if I can stop laughing if either Violet or Hydra wins
I Protoss winner, could it be?
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
January 22 2016 18:19 GMT
#886
Lets Go Neeb!!!! Firetruck Ter.....er.....Protoss?
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 18:20:27
January 22 2016 18:19 GMT
#887
On January 23 2016 03:17 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:14 Solar424 wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:12 Elentos wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:10 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:07 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:05 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:02 Shellshock wrote:
uthermal the terran hope


I hope not a single Terran advance out of Ro16 (Ironically there is only one). I just want to enjoy watching my ZPcraft. Not to prove that Terran is under powered and needs buff. But because I'm sick of Marines as Terran. At this point. Either Mech becomes viable and the standard style or that race can be wiped out of the face of the earth.

It is just too stupid to make the same unit early game or mid game or late game whether it is TvT or TvZ or TvP for 6 years. Enough is enough.

They will buff the medivac, speed, or hp, or the rate that units unload, or cost. They will buff the Medivac


The entire MMM playstyle must be eradicated.

...why?

It's boring
Muta/Ling/Bane? Marines.
Chargelot/Archon? Marines.
Roach/Ravager? Marines.
Disruptors? Marines.
It's the one-size-fit-all counter to everything, and if it doesn't counter it then Terran players cry imba in Twitch chat and Battle.net forums.


Stale army compositions are fine as long as the tactics and strategy are diverse and interesting.
See Broodwar.


I thought I was going fucking crazy. People are literally whining about EVERYTHING rn. How is that a justified argument? Why get rid of it? Why not instead provide players more options like opening up mech as a valid tech tree?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 22 2016 18:19 GMT
#888
On January 23 2016 03:18 Penev wrote:
I wonder if I can stop laughing if either Violet or Hydra wins

If viOlet does an impromptu Protoss switch and adepts his way through the finals I certainly won't.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 22 2016 18:20 GMT
#889
I'm disappointed we cant get a violet hydra final
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 18:21:32
January 22 2016 18:20 GMT
#890
On January 23 2016 03:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:18 Penev wrote:
I wonder if I can stop laughing if either Violet or Hydra wins

If viOlet does an impromptu Protoss switch and adepts his way through the finals I certainly won't.

What!? That would be amazingly funny! I'd probably die
On January 23 2016 03:20 Shellshock wrote:
I'm disappointed we cant get a violet hydra final

rigged
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 22 2016 18:21 GMT
#891
On January 23 2016 03:20 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:19 Elentos wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:18 Penev wrote:
I wonder if I can stop laughing if either Violet or Hydra wins

If viOlet does an impromptu Protoss switch and adepts his way through the finals I certainly won't.

What!? That would be amazingly funny! I'd probably die

He once rage Protossed on stream, who knows if Dreamhack is save from his wrath?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
January 22 2016 18:21 GMT
#892
On January 23 2016 03:17 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:14 Solar424 wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:12 Elentos wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:10 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:07 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:05 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:02 Shellshock wrote:
uthermal the terran hope


I hope not a single Terran advance out of Ro16 (Ironically there is only one). I just want to enjoy watching my ZPcraft. Not to prove that Terran is under powered and needs buff. But because I'm sick of Marines as Terran. At this point. Either Mech becomes viable and the standard style or that race can be wiped out of the face of the earth.

It is just too stupid to make the same unit early game or mid game or late game whether it is TvT or TvZ or TvP for 6 years. Enough is enough.

They will buff the medivac, speed, or hp, or the rate that units unload, or cost. They will buff the Medivac


The entire MMM playstyle must be eradicated.

...why?

It's boring
Muta/Ling/Bane? Marines.
Chargelot/Archon? Marines.
Roach/Ravager? Marines.
Disruptors? Marines.
It's the one-size-fit-all counter to everything, and if it doesn't counter it then Terran players cry imba in Twitch chat and Battle.net forums.



Plat leaguers please go away.
You don't even realize the amount of skill people like innovation pull when they indeed counter this with MMM.


Calm down, he didn't say anything about bio being easy to play.
You're now breathing manually
Propelled
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark184 Posts
January 22 2016 18:22 GMT
#893
Cheering for TLO, he's the one that originally got me interested in competitive SC2.

Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
January 22 2016 18:23 GMT
#894
So the entire playstyle should go? Laughable.


Not go exactly, but being forced upon us kinda drives towards this direction of completely removing the whole playstyle instead of making it on par with mech.


Plat leaguers please go away.
You don't even realize the amount of skill people like innovation pull when they indeed counter this with MMM.


Yeah because there is no nothing else they can do. Exactly, Look HOW they counter it, not what is fun or not. It is fun for you to watch Innovation's or Maru's MMM play style. It is exciting to watch and see the skill they display, but lets not forget that it is literally the only viable thing Terran can ever do whatever the match up is. Marines whatever your enemy makes whatever the game stage is whatever the match is. Just more marines.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 22 2016 18:24 GMT
#895
I'm sad state didn't make it out of the ro32, did he at least look solid?
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
January 22 2016 18:24 GMT
#896
Khaelaris, the ultimate authority in sprinklers.
SmykuToronto
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland269 Posts
January 22 2016 18:24 GMT
#897
Since when nydus is HOTSesque?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 22 2016 18:25 GMT
#898
What creativity
Liquipedia"Expert"
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 22 2016 18:25 GMT
#899
T L O
L
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Dario the GOD!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 22 2016 18:25 GMT
#900
Wow those banelings were super effective sick from TLO
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