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CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
December 25 2015 11:11 GMT
#261
Pure Roach/Ravager looks really bad vs Terran. Why didn't Losira at least make some spores to zone out those Medivacs and reduce their number over time?
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 25 2015 11:11 GMT
#262
On December 25 2015 20:10 Noonius wrote:
terran in the finals, guys. rejoice

no
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
December 25 2015 11:11 GMT
#263
lol Artosis
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
December 25 2015 11:11 GMT
#264
On December 25 2015 20:10 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 20:08 EatingBomber wrote:
Just recently arrived. Would someone be kind enough to summarize the previous match, games 1 and 2 of this one, and the early game of game 3?

Game 1 3 rax reaper vs roach about even Losira transitons into muta ling botches some of his fights and falls behind dies on lair tech after 10 ish more min (decent game)
game 2 Losira makes lings bunny doesn't lift depos (lame game) finishes game with a muta ling attack 5 min later
game 3 3 rax reaper vs no roaches bunny ahead losira spams roach raveger bunny doesn't make tanks but still wins.
also 50 hatch snipes (lame roach raveger game)

First match was pretty much Hurricane running into a superior TY defense, liberators/cyclones etc.
It appears I have been chosen.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
December 25 2015 11:11 GMT
#265
On December 25 2015 20:10 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 20:08 EatingBomber wrote:
Just recently arrived. Would someone be kind enough to summarize the previous match, games 1 and 2 of this one, and the early game of game 3?

Game 1 3 rax reaper vs roach about even Losira transitons into muta ling botches some of his fights and falls behind dies on lair tech after 10 ish more min (decent game)
game 2 Losira makes lings bunny doesn't lift depos (lame game) finishes game with a muta ling attack 5 min later
game 3 3 rax reaper vs no roaches bunny ahead losira spams roach raveger bunny doesn't make tanks but still wins.
also 50 hatch snipes (lame roach raveger game)


Thanks. What happened between Dear and his opponent?
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 25 2015 11:12 GMT
#266
On December 25 2015 20:09 A_needle_jog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 20:01 Topdoller wrote:
Still think Roaches are a way safer option v reapers, why did Losira go ling?



if you go roaches then there is a small window where you lose 10 drones and losing 10 drones that early is game over. There is a reason you see all the good korean zergs go mass lings.

Zerglings can chase reaper once speed finishes.
Zerglings can get map control once speed finishes.
Zerglings are faster moving between bases.
Zerglings build time is faster.
Zerglings less supply, you need less overlords. Getting queens and roaches is supply heavy.

There is no perfect way to handle reapers as a zerg.

Smart terrans bomb larvae. If you wait for roaches then you wait for larvae, minerals and gas. If reaper bomb the larvae in that time you lose.

Always remember that Starcraft 2 is not a 2 dimensional game. There is much more than meets the eyes

Zerglings don't get map control vs 3 rax
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 25 2015 11:12 GMT
#267
On December 25 2015 20:11 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 20:10 HellHound wrote:
On December 25 2015 20:08 EatingBomber wrote:
Just recently arrived. Would someone be kind enough to summarize the previous match, games 1 and 2 of this one, and the early game of game 3?

Game 1 3 rax reaper vs roach about even Losira transitons into muta ling botches some of his fights and falls behind dies on lair tech after 10 ish more min (decent game)
game 2 Losira makes lings bunny doesn't lift depos (lame game) finishes game with a muta ling attack 5 min later
game 3 3 rax reaper vs no roaches bunny ahead losira spams roach raveger bunny doesn't make tanks but still wins.
also 50 hatch snipes (lame roach raveger game)


Thanks. What happened between Dear and his opponent?

that's 4th match you mean TY vs hurricane
TY rolled him
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 25 2015 11:12 GMT
#268
byun avenged
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 25 2015 11:13 GMT
#269
On December 25 2015 20:12 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 20:09 A_needle_jog wrote:
On December 25 2015 20:01 Topdoller wrote:
Still think Roaches are a way safer option v reapers, why did Losira go ling?



if you go roaches then there is a small window where you lose 10 drones and losing 10 drones that early is game over. There is a reason you see all the good korean zergs go mass lings.

Zerglings can chase reaper once speed finishes.
Zerglings can get map control once speed finishes.
Zerglings are faster moving between bases.
Zerglings build time is faster.
Zerglings less supply, you need less overlords. Getting queens and roaches is supply heavy.

There is no perfect way to handle reapers as a zerg.

Smart terrans bomb larvae. If you wait for roaches then you wait for larvae, minerals and gas. If reaper bomb the larvae in that time you lose.

Always remember that Starcraft 2 is not a 2 dimensional game. There is much more than meets the eyes

Zerglings don't get map control vs 3 rax

and unless you go all-in, you can't really "chase reapers"
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
December 25 2015 11:13 GMT
#270
I dont get it... Why even go Ravagers? Ravager Roach is the most noob composition. Zerg is currently sooo OP when going ultra, infestor, bloord, viper. Staying on Ravager tech is basically giving the other playet a change to win.
Did Losira want to lose? This is stupid :/
Cant wait when people find out Ravagers actually suck... a lot
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 25 2015 11:14 GMT
#271
On December 25 2015 20:13 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I dont get it... Why even go Ravagers? Ravager Roach is the most noob composition. Zerg is currently sooo OP when going ultra, infestor, bloord, viper. Staying on Ravager tech is basically giving the other playet a change to win.
Did Losira want to lose? This is stupid :/
Cant wait when people find out Ravagers actually suck... a lot

lol
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
December 25 2015 11:14 GMT
#272
Lol just noticed a Flash vs SC2 liquibet going on
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
December 25 2015 11:15 GMT
#273
flash gonna win

i know this because i am 2/2 tonight
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
December 25 2015 11:15 GMT
#274
Better nerf zerg a lot though, clearly very imba
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 25 2015 11:15 GMT
#275
All I want for Christmaas, is StaarCraaaaft
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
December 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#276
this is some good buttrock

really feels like GSL
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
December 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#277
On December 25 2015 20:13 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I dont get it... Why even go Ravagers? Ravager Roach is the most noob composition. Zerg is currently sooo OP when going ultra, infestor, bloord, viper. Staying on Ravager tech is basically giving the other playet a change to win.
Did Losira want to lose? This is stupid :/
Cant wait when people find out Ravagers actually suck... a lot

He was super far behind after the early game. If he tried to go hive from that position as fast as he could he would just die. And ling/bane isn't good.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 11:17:09
December 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#278
On December 25 2015 20:13 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I dont get it... Why even go Ravagers? Ravager Roach is the most noob composition. Zerg is currently sooo OP when going ultra, infestor, bloord, viper. Staying on Ravager tech is basically giving the other playet a change to win.
Did Losira want to lose? This is stupid :/
Cant wait when people find out Ravagers actually suck... a lot

Let me direct you to the balance whine thread in general discussion
Balance whine thread
have fun
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
December 25 2015 11:19 GMT
#279
Did Wolf just shit on the Star Wars movie itself, or in comparison to GSL?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 25 2015 11:19 GMT
#280
So is that how his name is properly pronounced MyungShhhhik
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
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