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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
November 20 2015 14:57 GMT
#121
On November 20 2015 23:55 Elentos wrote:
In the meantime, ByuN fighting the lower bracket. Beat aLive and Leenock, up next is Armani.


Hope we get to see ByuN vs Curious lategame
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 15:03:33
November 20 2015 15:00 GMT
#122
So if I understand correctly the ultras take 4 times less damage from marines? How much less by rauders?

I felt hopeless vs ultra except when massively ahead economically, good to know that ghosts damage them as well (I know for liberator but on the middle of the map they can go around and it's not.practical.having to lock an.area each time).

I am on my phone so hard to look.everywhere, is ByuN still in the qualifier?
I liked him a lot on Prime@WoL, it's cool to see him back, is there a link to the bracket? I'll try to look at the 1st page.
Edit: found the challonge link, no liquidpedia link? What is ByuN nickname I don't find him.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 20 2015 15:02 GMT
#123
On November 21 2015 00:00 Poopi wrote:
So if I understand correctly the ultras take 4 times less damage from marines? How much less by rauders?

I felt hopeless vs ultra except when massively ahead economically, good to know that ghosts damage them as well (I know for liberator but on the middle of the map they can go around and it's not.practical.having to lock an.area each time).

I am on my phone so hard to look.everywhere, is ByuN still in the qualifier?
I liked him a lot on Prime@WoL, it's cool to see him back, is there a link to the bracket? I'll try to look at the 1st page.

Bracket: http://challonge.com/HSCXIIKR (speaknow = ByuN)

Because marauders fire twice for 10 each in LotV instead of once for 20, the 8 armor is applied twice, so they take a 3rd of what they would have taken against HotS rauders..
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
November 20 2015 15:05 GMT
#124
Low numbers of ultras are still manageable with bio (up to 3-4) if there aren't a gazillion banelings rolling with them. But if the zergs gets like 8 ultras, then it's lights out for the terran.

To be honest, I kinda like that "final boss" vibe from the nearly unkillable ultras as well, even as a terran. However, I sometimes wish zergs wouldn't be able to afford as many ultras as they do ^^
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2015 15:06 GMT
#125
ughhh what are these checkmark brackets that dont show map scores
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3657 Posts
November 20 2015 15:07 GMT
#126
...ByuN is coming!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 20 2015 15:08 GMT
#127
On November 21 2015 00:06 Shellshock wrote:
ughhh what are these checkmark brackets that dont show map scores

NarutO (from TakeTV) made a mistake with that. So only the players know the map scores.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#128
On November 21 2015 00:06 Shellshock wrote:
ughhh what are these checkmark brackets that dont show map scores

it's FGC all over again!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 15:11:35
November 20 2015 15:10 GMT
#129
I think in Pro-Games, the 8 Armor-Ultras are not a problem.
With Ghost and Lib, the Terran has the tools for high single-target-damage. You can also use the Bio Leftover to constant pressure Zerg expansion either to buy time to get more Ghosts-Libs or to force the zerg into an uncomfortable engagement.

But on lower leagues... yeah the Zerg gets his ultras via tech and a- moves them into something not very choky and mostlikely wins, while the terran has to do more to counter.

ByuN is slaying through the lower bracket like a mad man. He wants this regame.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 20 2015 15:12 GMT
#130
I feel like the worst thing the ultra buff does is that buildings no longer insta kill them.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 20 2015 15:16 GMT
#131
On November 21 2015 00:10 Clonester wrote:
I think in Pro-Games, the 8 Armor-Ultras are not a problem.
With Ghost and Lib, the Terran has the tools for high single-target-damage. You can also use the Bio Leftover to constant pressure Zerg expansion either to buy time to get more Ghosts-Libs or to force the zerg into an uncomfortable engagement.

But on lower leagues... yeah the Zerg gets his ultras via tech and a- moves them into something not very choky and mostlikely wins, while the terran has to do more to counter.

ByuN is slaying through the lower bracket like a mad man. He wants this regame.

Yeah I don't think there is a problem just that since I did not read enough about the changes nor played LotV, I produced marauders in order to deal with ultra and it felt really shitty against them despite good upgrades, I did not know how much shitty they were nor prepared the ghost tech so could not really adapt well on the fly but I knew there was some proper response I did not.know yet that would do the trick.

There are so many more changes from HotS>LotV than WoL>HotS that I expected standard comps with a bit of liberators to be sufficient haha.

Gogo ByuN I want to see you in the actual tournament :D.
WriterMaru
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
November 20 2015 15:19 GMT
#132
does corrosive bile do friendly fire?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 20 2015 15:20 GMT
#133
On November 21 2015 00:19 Topin wrote:
does corrosive bile do friendly fire?

Yeah it does.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 20 2015 15:26 GMT
#134
On November 21 2015 00:00 Poopi wrote:
So if I understand correctly the ultras take 4 times less damage from marines? How much less by rauders?

I felt hopeless vs ultra except when massively ahead economically, good to know that ghosts damage them as well (I know for liberator but on the middle of the map they can go around and it's not.practical.having to lock an.area each time).

I am on my phone so hard to look.everywhere, is ByuN still in the qualifier?
I liked him a lot on Prime@WoL, it's cool to see him back, is there a link to the bracket? I'll try to look at the 1st page.
Edit: found the challonge link, no liquidpedia link? What is ByuN nickname I don't find him.


Here is the LP link http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HomeStory_Cup/12/Qualifiers/KRTWCN
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 20 2015 15:28 GMT
#135
terran is looking too good, I think it's high time to visit the bunker build time
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 20 2015 15:29 GMT
#136
Sorry KeeN, but you have to have a better level than that to take on Curious in the late game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 15:30:57
November 20 2015 15:30 GMT
#137
Curious, KeeN, ByuN, FanTaSy or Reality? I would be really happy to see any of those guys at HSC .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 20 2015 15:31 GMT
#138
On November 21 2015 00:30 Musicus wrote:
Curious, Keen, ByuN, FanTaSy or Reality? I would be really happy to see any of those guys at HSC .

ByuN paying for his own flight and hotel by winning a few more Leifengs and Olimoleagues would be hilarious.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 15:35:12
November 20 2015 15:33 GMT
#139
On November 21 2015 00:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2015 00:30 Musicus wrote:
Curious, Keen, ByuN, FanTaSy or Reality? I would be really happy to see any of those guys at HSC .

ByuN paying for his own flight and hotel by winning a few more Leifengs and Olimoleagues would be hilarious.


It would be and especially with the ShoutCraft money he could afford it. But why wouldn't X-Team pay for his flight?

He is free of Prime and no longer teamless. I'm sure we will see him more at foreign events in the future .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
November 20 2015 15:34 GMT
#140
On November 21 2015 00:33 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2015 00:31 Elentos wrote:
On November 21 2015 00:30 Musicus wrote:
Curious, Keen, ByuN, FanTaSy or Reality? I would be really happy to see any of those guys at HSC .

ByuN paying for his own flight and hotel by winning a few more Leifengs and Olimoleagues would be hilarious.


It would be and especially with the ShoutCraft money he could afford it. But why wouldn't X-Team pay for his flight?

how big is X-Team?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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