★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
18%
★★★ - Good game (1)
9%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend herO vs YoDa ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
83%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend RagnaroK vs BBoongBBoong ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs KeeN ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs TANGTANG ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★ - Good game (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
now big army slaughter incoming
the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
18%
★★★ - Good game (1)
9%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend herO vs YoDa ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
now big army slaughter incoming
the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix
how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?
im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
now big army slaughter incoming
the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix
how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?
im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?
if your only army which are the phoenix and the one oracle is busy trying to micro around a turret to kill scvs, stimmed bio will have a field day in the Protoss player's base.
To say it very clearly, that build is not imba/broken. It's very situational and relies on denying map control / scouting from the T, fun and all but far less solid than colo play.
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote: I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes
Could have easily killed the 3rd
sigh
I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
now big army slaughter incoming
the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix
how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?
im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?
if your only army which are the phoenix and the one oracle is busy trying to micro around a turret to kill scvs, stimmed bio will have a field day in the Protoss player's base.
To say it very clearly, that build is not imba/broken. It's very situational and relies on denying map control / scouting from the T, fun and all but far less solid than colo play.
i see...so it all comes down to not scouting/ not punishing the 3rd base?
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote: I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes
Could have easily killed the 3rd
sigh
I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.
I think there is a slim chance he thought herO followed up his phoenix production with a gateway all-in... Still it was a bad read because a gateway all-in would have hit ages ago and have been a very silly choice on this map where you have a 1 hex choke to hold.
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote: this is fucking ridiculous
herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?
now big army slaughter incoming
the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix
how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?
im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?
if your only army which are the phoenix and the one oracle is busy trying to micro around a turret to kill scvs, stimmed bio will have a field day in the Protoss player's base.
To say it very clearly, that build is not imba/broken. It's very situational and relies on denying map control / scouting from the T, fun and all but far less solid than colo play.
i see...so it all comes down to not scouting/ not punishing the 3rd base?
Yeah. In the game herO's third had been mining for a good 6 minutes when YoDa started his third. I think there is little point talking about anything that happened thereafter. herO could seriously go carriers chargelots archons and still win.
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote: I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes
Could have easily killed the 3rd
sigh
I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.
I think there is a slim chance he thought herO followed up his phoenix production with a gateway all-in... Still it was a bad read because a gateway all-in would have hit ages ago and have been a very silly choice on this map where you have a 1 hex choke to hold.
Interesting thoughts here, herO is a player like PartinG who loves to take quick third bases and cut midgame units like that. I don't remember how many sentries he made, but making the warp prism shows the confidence he has in his ability to defend midgame pressure.
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote: I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes
Could have easily killed the 3rd
sigh
I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.
I think there is a slim chance he thought herO followed up his phoenix production with a gateway all-in... Still it was a bad read because a gateway all-in would have hit ages ago and have been a very silly choice on this map where you have a 1 hex choke to hold.
Mmmh...there used to be delayed 3bases allins with either forge or twilight upgrades that could have hit at that time and which would explain the gate count which was too high for a 2base.
Still it's very much a reach, and indeed it would have been a really bad choice for the map
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote: I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes
Could have easily killed the 3rd
sigh
I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.
I think there is a slim chance he thought herO followed up his phoenix production with a gateway all-in... Still it was a bad read because a gateway all-in would have hit ages ago and have been a very silly choice on this map where you have a 1 hex choke to hold.
Mmmh...there used to be delayed 3bases allins with either forge or twilight upgrades that could have hit at that time and which would explain the gate count which was too high for a 2base.
Still it's very much a reach, and indeed it would have been a really bad choice for the map
That's a super old build that PartinG used to do at the end of WoL and one he sorta-used in HOTS at times. (Where you open blink and do a blink pressure while cutting observers/units with the quick third base, then cut probes and do an all-in)
Still I think it's mostly just very bold play from herO, who has become increasingly bold in his play over the years
I think if prime has any chance today it s now vs ragnarok. Though a 3 0 would be great since the last opponent is skt. Sorry Lorning, cant cheer for prime today.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
83%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend RagnaroK vs BBoongBBoong ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs KeeN ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs TANGTANG ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
40%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs TANGTANG ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
60%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★ - Good game (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
Yeah i'm too scared to try it with randoms, I fear it'll be like playing LoL and everyone will just rage.
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
Yeah i'm too scared to try it with randoms, I fear it'll be like playing LoL and everyone will just rage.
If only! 12 hour time difference too stronk.
Indeed One day! We will unleash the best archon onto the world xD
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
On August 25 2015 19:20 Phredxor wrote: Speaking of LoTV, I played my first game of it today, so weird not having chrono :s
Also got matched vs a bronzie, I felt bad
Haha :D Welcome to the madness, archon mode is fun if you have a buddy to play with. If you weren't the other side of the world we could have become the best archon since tastosis
Yeah i'm too scared to try it with randoms, I fear it'll be like playing LoL and everyone will just rage.
If only! 12 hour time difference too stronk.
Indeed One day! We will unleash the best archon onto the world xD
I know it is a timezone problem, I was asking about lags in general from EU to NA in LotV :-)
You know, the optimist in me says "hold on, they just switched to a new coach, it'll take a little while to iron out the differences before we see any improvement" and "who knows, I bet Kespa is working frantically behind the scenes to find sponsors/free agents for Prime to pick up for next season!"
the pessimist says "even with a new coach, these players are so bad, even if they improve a little they will still suck" and "Prime said Kespa would help them with sponsors a loooong time ago, and they have no new players to show for it"
Things were a little different when Prime had Creator, who could pull out a nice upset win from time to time to keep things interesting, but now their games are entirely perfunctory beatdowns...
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