★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (6)
67%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
11%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
83%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (8)
57%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
40%
★★★- Good game (4)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
50%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
53%
★★★- Good game (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
20%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★- Good game (3)
27%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
45%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
83%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
12%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (13)
76%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (4)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (12)
55%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
23%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (5)
21%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
17%
★★★- Good game (2)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
38%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (11)
44%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
16%
★★★- Good game (4)
16%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
16%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
8%
25 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Tough group to call, I like all players... Still, because you should always respect you elders: gogo Storkuuuuuuuuu~ !! And go Life for second place I guess...? I don't know, I like Bbyong and sOs too.
On August 07 2015 18:36 NexUmbra wrote: I'm looking forward to how Stork performs against these guys. It must suck to not be in Code S when one of your coaches is haha
Are you kidding? He's been playing amazingly lately.
Ever since he figured out how unit interactions work in SC2 (and hard-counters) he's absolutely flourished.
He was brilliant in regards to strategy and it absolutely shows now.
On August 07 2015 18:36 NexUmbra wrote: I'm looking forward to how Stork performs against these guys. It must suck to not be in Code S when one of your coaches is haha
Are you kidding? He's been playing amazingly lately.
Ever since he figured out how unit interactions work in SC2 (and hard-counters) he's absolutely flourished.
He was brilliant in regards to strategy and it absolutely shows now.
You have to consider that he's got the hardest group.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (6)
67%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
11%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
83%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Stork Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 19:37 Parcelleus wrote: sOs lucky, Stork had 2-3 times to see that Dark Shrine but didnt click on it. No wonder he was unhappy with himself, he had that otherwise. Great PvP.
Actually Stork scouted it with the last hallucination, didn't he? He saw a small building there warping in, but it was for a brief. Otherwise sOs denied scouting really well
On August 07 2015 19:37 Parcelleus wrote: sOs lucky, Stork had 2-3 times to see that Dark Shrine but didnt click on it. No wonder he was unhappy with himself, he had that otherwise. Great PvP.
Actually Stork scouted it with the last hallucination, didn't he? He saw a small building there warping in, but it was for a brief. Otherwise sOs denied scouting really well
At one point Stork had 2 Hallucinated Phoenixes flying into sOs's base from two different directions, every 15 seconds. It was that crazy. Stork did end up reacting too late even though he had the Dark Shrine more than scouted.
On August 07 2015 19:37 Parcelleus wrote: sOs lucky, Stork had 2-3 times to see that Dark Shrine but didnt click on it. No wonder he was unhappy with himself, he had that otherwise. Great PvP.
actually, the first time Stork didn't know it was the DT Shrine, the hallucination saw the DT warp "ball" at the last moment but there was no way that Stork could have clicked on it to confirm, for all he knew, that could have just been another Pylon.
On August 07 2015 19:37 Parcelleus wrote: sOs lucky, Stork had 2-3 times to see that Dark Shrine but didnt click on it. No wonder he was unhappy with himself, he had that otherwise. Great PvP.
Actually Stork scouted it with the last hallucination, didn't he? He saw a small building there warping in, but it was for a brief. Otherwise sOs denied scouting really well
At one point Stork had 2 Hallucinated Phoenixes flying into sOs's base from two different directions, every 15 seconds. It was that crazy. Stork did end up reacting too late even though he had the Dark Shrine more than scouted.
No, Stork scouted just the wapr ball and then the hallucination died. He scouted that late and he didn't reacted properly on the top of it, since he thought DTs won't come with warp prism.
He scouted the Shrine with the last hallucination.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (8)
57%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 19:52 marvellosity wrote: I swear every TvZ mech game I've seen lately is the same. Both sides max, Zerg has whatever composition and just loses anyway.
The demise of the much hated swarmhost, as certainly reduced Zergs options hasnt it. That plus the thor buff has really pigeon holed Zerg into limited options
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
On August 07 2015 19:52 deacon.frost wrote: Mech into a-move into win, even worst than 4gate era :/
Worse than BL-Infestor?
I mean back then the game was at least a little interesting with the moves players tried or did. But this looks like Protoss deathball move. And protoss has at least to use some skills you can see. But this is a-move. I find this really bad to watch.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
You mean like every time the map is played you will hear about it's design? Can you imagine how it would look with overgrowth seasons?! Player history is shown on screen at the beginning. I have different expectations from football where they fill the gaps with funny stories all the 90 minutes
On August 07 2015 19:52 deacon.frost wrote: Mech into a-move into win, even worst than 4gate era :/
Worse than BL-Infestor?
I mean back then the game was at least a little interesting with the moves players tried or did. But this looks like Protoss deathball move. And protoss has at least to use some skills you can see. But this is a-move. I find this really bad to watch.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
It is but I find, in general, people bitch too much about casters.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
It is but I find, in general, people bitch too much about casters.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
@deacon.frost True, question of taste. We'll agree to disagree Peace bro!
@Penev No, I'm not just speaking for myself. A lot of others do feel the same way that I do - look at the other user comments here and other past LR threads. But whatever. Not going to argue further on this.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
It is but I find, in general, people bitch too much about casters.
I want to see the casting quality improve, people don't bitch enough and just accept it because "Well, it's esports and thus not as good as professional sports casting." :D
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
@deacon.frost True, question of taste. We'll agree to disagree Peace bro!
@Penev No, I'm not just speaking for myself. A lot of others do feel the same way that I do - look at the other user comments here and other past LR threads. But whatever. Not going to argue further on this.
"speak for yourself" is an expression meaning "don't present an opinion as fact" (And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
It is but I find, in general, people bitch too much about casters.
I want to see the casting quality improve, people don't bitch enough and just accept it because "Well, it's esports and thus not as good as professional sports casting." :D
I accept it because I like it. but sure lol whatever you say
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
40%
★★★- Good game (4)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
50%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs Life Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
@deacon.frost True, question of taste. We'll agree to disagree Peace bro!
@Penev No, I'm not just speaking for myself. A lot of others do feel the same way that I do - look at the other user comments here and other past LR threads. But whatever. Not going to argue further on this.
"speak for yourself" is an expression meaning "don't present an opinion as fact" (And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Something being funny is a subjective matter, hence it's your opinion.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
@deacon.frost True, question of taste. We'll agree to disagree Peace bro!
@Penev No, I'm not just speaking for myself. A lot of others do feel the same way that I do - look at the other user comments here and other past LR threads. But whatever. Not going to argue further on this.
"speak for yourself" is an expression meaning "don't present an opinion as fact" (And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Something being funny is a subjective matter, hence it's your opinion.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
@deacon.frost True, question of taste. We'll agree to disagree Peace bro!
@Penev No, I'm not just speaking for myself. A lot of others do feel the same way that I do - look at the other user comments here and other past LR threads. But whatever. Not going to argue further on this.
"speak for yourself" is an expression meaning "don't present an opinion as fact" (And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Something being funny is a subjective matter, hence it's your opinion.
On August 07 2015 19:47 RKC wrote: Sigh... Tastosis cast degenerating into SNL mode once again. C'mon guys, cover the games!
What do you want to cast? You can see what is happening, this is not a radio broadcast. And they already told at the beginning that Bbyong will go mech because the map is awesome for it.
Talk about player history, recent race matchups, map design, etc - anything interesting yet insightful. And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Speak for yourself
I think this is endless debate and just different tastes
@deacon.frost True, question of taste. We'll agree to disagree Peace bro!
@Penev No, I'm not just speaking for myself. A lot of others do feel the same way that I do - look at the other user comments here and other past LR threads. But whatever. Not going to argue further on this.
"speak for yourself" is an expression meaning "don't present an opinion as fact" (And no, BW history (as much as I love and follow it) is not relevant here nor funny.
Something being funny is a subjective matter, hence it's your opinion.
This is obviously true. Stop arguing guys.
Which was exactly my point, read the whole thread guys
On August 07 2015 20:08 Spinoza wrote: Life must be slumping. One of my favourite players. Sad.
Life is not slumping.Most of the Koreean top Terrans know how to beat Life : MECH.At this moment one of Life's weakest point is MECH play.Inno kicked his ass and so did Bbyong...and soon the list will get bigger.
Okay, I won't argue semantics but i will say this.
I want the casters to talk more about the game to help SC2 viewership. How? Well I have a lot of gamer friends. I want to introduce them to watch competitive SC2. Some have even played WoL before. But when they watch the games now, they lose interest. Why? They can't keep up with the meta. The casters aren't helpful. I can fill them in the details, but I'm not as good as the casters and well, I can't be around my friends all the time. And so they give up. And that's sad.
(And these are the same friends who would watch old BW games because the Korean casters and subtitles helped them follow the meta and games)
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
53%
★★★- Good game (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
20%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 20:26 KingAlphard wrote: Once again I thought I understood something about the game (1 base dts suck) and sOs proves me wrong
Well, that's sOs in a nutshell. If you wanna learn to play Protoss - go with Rain. If you wanna see fun, sOs(where he wins) or Parting. sOs does things that are so insane and works just because he's so high in the ladder and because he understands the game on a different level than others. he's bending the spoon(into a fork with wheels and gun), basically
On August 07 2015 20:26 KingAlphard wrote: Once again I thought I understood something about the game (1 base dts suck) and sOs proves me wrong
Well, that's sOs in a nutshell. If you wanna learn to play Protoss - go with Rain. If you wanna see fun, sOs(where he wins) or Parting. sOs does things that are so insane and works just because he's so high in the ladder and because he understands the game on a different level than others. he's bending the spoon(into a fork with wheels and gun), basically
I think there are some sOs things you can learn and use in your own play, really. Like the way he cannon rushed into zealots into phoenixes, the build he did vs Jaedong in WCS global finals
On August 07 2015 20:26 KingAlphard wrote: Once again I thought I understood something about the game (1 base dts suck) and sOs proves me wrong
Well, that's sOs in a nutshell. If you wanna learn to play Protoss - go with Rain. If you wanna see fun, sOs(where he wins) or Parting. sOs does things that are so insane and works just because he's so high in the ladder and because he understands the game on a different level than others. he's bending the spoon(into a fork with wheels and gun), basically
I think there are some sOs things you can learn and use in your own play, really. Like the way he cannon rushed into zealots into phoenixes, the build he did vs Jaedong in WCS global finals
Yeah, there are some things you can use if you know what(or someone tells you what), he's no Has, he can play standard/macro games/ pretty good.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★- Good game (3)
27%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
45%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
83%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 20:26 KingAlphard wrote: Once again I thought I understood something about the game (1 base dts suck) and sOs proves me wrong
Well, that's sOs in a nutshell. If you wanna learn to play Protoss - go with Rain. If you wanna see fun, sOs(where he wins) or Parting. sOs does things that are so insane and works just because he's so high in the ladder and because he understands the game on a different level than others. he's bending the spoon(into a fork with wheels and gun), basically
I think there are some sOs things you can learn and use in your own play, really. Like the way he cannon rushed into zealots into phoenixes, the build he did vs Jaedong in WCS global finals
Yeah, there are some thing you can use if you know what(or someone tells you what), he's no Has, he can play standard/macro games/ pretty good.
I think some things he does really explains a lot about the game. He finds weaknesses like few others can
sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
On August 07 2015 20:26 KingAlphard wrote: Once again I thought I understood something about the game (1 base dts suck) and sOs proves me wrong
Well, that's sOs in a nutshell. If you wanna learn to play Protoss - go with Rain. If you wanna see fun, sOs(where he wins) or Parting. sOs does things that are so insane and works just because he's so high in the ladder and because he understands the game on a different level than others. he's bending the spoon(into a fork with wheels and gun), basically
I think there are some sOs things you can learn and use in your own play, really. Like the way he cannon rushed into zealots into phoenixes, the build he did vs Jaedong in WCS global finals
Yeah, there are some thing you can use if you know what(or someone tells you what), he's no Has, he can play standard/macro games/ pretty good.
I think some things he does really explains a lot about the game. He finds weaknesses like few others can
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Makes perfect sense that they're each other's favorite players isn't it
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
but someone just said they liked him
Made me laugh. Although I'm still surprised that Naniwa still has his fans as well.
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Nothing against Nani but I wouldn't say sOs is like him. He's unique in his craziness imo
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Come on, nobody likes Naniwa, many people do like sOs!
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
but someone just said they liked him
Made me laugh. Although I'm still surprised that Naniwa still has his fans as well.
Because we love when something extrodinary works in a world of standart SC2, are we?
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Nothing against Nani but I wouldn't say sOs is like him. He's unique in his craziness imo
Primarily, except of his unpredictability, sOs is a good guy. Naniwa is an A-H.
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Come on, nobody likes Naniwa, many people do like sOs!
Well, players seem to hate him especially rogue. E him is referring to sOs
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Nothing against Nani but I wouldn't say sOs is like him. He's unique in his craziness imo
Primarily, except of his unpredictability, sOs is a good guy. Naniwa is an A-H.
I don't mind Nani's behavior that much I must say. Rather have him improve on it though, don't get me wrong.
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Come on, nobody likes Naniwa, many people do like sOs!
Well, players seem to hate him especially rogue. E him is referring to sOs
But players hate him because he is unpredictable and good ... not because of his personlity. Naniwa is just what TLO called him.
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Come on, nobody likes Naniwa, many people do like sOs!
Well, players seem to hate him especially rogue. E him is referring to sOs
But players hate him because he is unpredictable and good ... not because of his personlity. Naniwa is just what TLO called him.
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Nothing against Nani but I wouldn't say sOs is like him. He's unique in his craziness imo
Primarily, except of his unpredictability, sOs is a good guy. Naniwa is an A-H.
I don't mind Nani's behavior that much I must say. Rather have him improve on it though, don't get me wrong.
Naniwa , today, is the xtremely bad as player and a douche bag as a persone.sOs is Naiwa x 10 at skill level.
On August 07 2015 20:52 ThomasjServo wrote: So I heard that right, GSL in its current form goes bai bai?
??
They were going on about the last GSL, or last season and saying it was sad. I don't know if this is the last season for this year, and their shit just got bought, so I was combining the two.
On August 07 2015 20:52 ThomasjServo wrote: So I heard that right, GSL in its current form goes bai bai?
??
They were going on about the last GSL, or last season and saying it was sad. I don't know if this is the last season for this year, and their shit just got bought, so I was combining the two.
I am pretty sure they meant it's the last season of the year
On August 07 2015 20:52 ThomasjServo wrote: So I heard that right, GSL in its current form goes bai bai?
??
They were going on about the last GSL, or last season and saying it was sad. I don't know if this is the last season for this year, and their shit just got bought, so I was combining the two.
I am pretty sure they meant it's the last season of the year
Fair enough, I just didn't know if anything had been confirmed over night or what.
I know I'm late to the party, but I really like how tastosis is casting this game. That's what I would expect, explaining the situation of the players and what's going on. This would help watchers (who do not know the game well) understand what's going on, which player is ahead etc.
Compare that to the first Life games where they completely ignored the game for the first half of each game to talk about random stuff.
On August 07 2015 20:52 Spinoza wrote: What did he call him?
Did you see Nani's reactions after his recent loss in WCS? Complaining about everything, everyone, telling, he has lost because of randomness as PvP is a bad matchup, which is always won by the lucky one. And then, he tweeted:
Johan Lucchesi @NaNiwaSC2 Jul 27 atleast i dont have to go to fucking poland thank god
In Poland will be the final of WCS 3rd season. And TLO tweeted to him: Dario Wünsch @LiquidTLO Jul 27 @NaNiwaSC2 You're an idiot.
On August 07 2015 20:52 Spinoza wrote: What did he call him?
Did you see Nani's reactions after his recent loss in WCS? Complaining about everything, everyone, telling, he has lost because of randomness as PvP is a bad matchup, which is always won by the lucky one. And then, he tweeted:
Johan Lucchesi @NaNiwaSC2 Jul 27 atleast i dont have to go to fucking poland thank god
In Poland will be the final of WCS 3rd season. And TLO tweeted to him: Dario Wünsch @LiquidTLO Jul 27 @NaNiwaSC2 You're an idiot.
On August 07 2015 21:03 BlackCompany wrote: No matter how good you are, headbutt infestor will never go away
Life's infestor usage is actually really good. He makes a lot of them to be able to harass with burrow movement, chase flying units and blanket with ITs. He also controlled them pretty well in that last fight.
On August 07 2015 21:03 BlackCompany wrote: No matter how good you are, headbutt infestor will never go away
Life's infestor usage is actually really good. He makes a lot of them to be able to harass with burrow movement, chase flying units and blanket with ITs. He also controlled them pretty well in that last fight.
Yeah, the burrow to allow lings to run over and then popping up again was nice
On August 07 2015 20:52 Spinoza wrote: What did he call him?
Did you see Nani's reactions after his recent loss in WCS? Complaining about everything, everyone, telling, he has lost because of randomness as PvP is a bad matchup, which is always won by the lucky one. And then, he tweeted:
Johan Lucchesi @NaNiwaSC2 Jul 27 atleast i dont have to go to fucking poland thank god
In Poland will be the final of WCS 3rd season. And TLO tweeted to him: Dario Wünsch @LiquidTLO Jul 27 @NaNiwaSC2 You're an idiot.
dude it's not worth your time to search what a chicken shit bad player named Naniwa has said.....he doesn't need any attention at all.......a few years ago he was the best in EU ....today..... no comment
On August 07 2015 21:03 BlackCompany wrote: No matter how good you are, headbutt infestor will never go away
Life's infestor usage is actually really good. He makes a lot of them to be able to harass with burrow movement, chase flying units and blanket with ITs. He also controlled them pretty well in that last fight.
Yeah, the burrow to allow lings to run over and then popping up again was nice
They get pushed by the units from behind probably if you only press S.
On August 07 2015 21:03 BlackCompany wrote: No matter how good you are, headbutt infestor will never go away
Life's infestor usage is actually really good. He makes a lot of them to be able to harass with burrow movement, chase flying units and blanket with ITs. He also controlled them pretty well in that last fight.
Yeah the harras was nice, the fight control was not aweful but he lost many more than needed because they were in the front
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
12%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (13)
76%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
can confirm
That's why you neural probes! Too bad life didn't do it with the gas probe at the gold for some BM
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
On August 07 2015 21:08 Heartland wrote: what happens to a neuraled scv who ceases being neuraled during construction of a building? Does it stop? Pop out? Attack the building?
it stops making the building. Source: I watched some WoL
can confirm
but does it remain inside the building?
nah, it moves a tile away
You guys have actually tried this? Amazing.
I've seen a game like this. I don't play infestors outside of ZvZ.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 21:30 mishimaBeef wrote: dang, missed it... how did game 2 stork v life go?
massacre
oh did life play early aggression?
Traded about 40 lings for almost all sentries in a 3 base vs 3 base scenario. Life went ling/roach/infestor and added ultras later, stork basicly went zealot/archon/immortal. Life did some good trades and ran him over with ultra/queen/infestor when stork tried to take a 4th.
On August 07 2015 21:30 mishimaBeef wrote: dang, missed it... how did game 2 stork v life go?
massacre
oh did life play early aggression?
Traded about 40 lings for almost all sentries in a 3 base vs 3 base scenario. Life went ling/roach/infestor and added ultras later, stork basicly went zealot/archon/immortal. Life did some good trades and ran him over with ultra/queen/infestor when stork tried to take a 4th.
Bbyong is going the evil combo - vikings banshee. Banshees kill everything detecting on the ground fast and vikings kill overseers even faster. Damn, I hate this :D
On August 07 2015 21:48 deacon.frost wrote: Bbyong is going the evil combo - vikings banshee. Banshees kill everything detecting on the ground fast and vikings kill overseers even faster. Damn, I hate this :D
Add some ravens for good measure. PDD the shit out of everything.
On August 07 2015 21:48 deacon.frost wrote: Bbyong is going the evil combo - vikings banshee. Banshees kill everything detecting on the ground fast and vikings kill overseers even faster. Damn, I hate this :D
sOs isn't the only with dirty tricks up his sleeve !
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (4)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (12)
55%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
23%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
My penis is bigger than your father therefore swarmhost aren't unbeatable.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
My penis is bigger than your father therefore swarmhost aren't unbeatable.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
Nah he is saying ravens are shit after being nerfed in that patch. Actually I agree with you that is stupid.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
My penis is bigger than your father therefore swarmhost aren't unbeatable.
So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
Have you seen the size of rauder bullets O.O Those much cost a fortune.
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
Have you seen the size of rauder bullets O.O Those much cost a fortune.
Yeah but gasoline is also expensive. And unless murica found oil on mars i expect to be it even more expensive in this future
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
marauders are kind of mechs though, I imagine a space marine suit isn't exactly cheap
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
It's hazard pay for the guy smoking the cigarette in the driver's seat.
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
Have you seen the size of rauder bullets O.O Those much cost a fortune.
Yeah but gasoline is also expensive. And unless murica found oil on mars i expect to be it even more expensive in this future
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
Have you seen the size of rauder bullets O.O Those much cost a fortune.
Yeah but gasoline is also expensive. And unless murica found oil on mars i expect to be it even more expensive in this future
It will probably be dirt cheap with a million planets to harvest it from tho Water is probably more expensive for Terrans.
On August 07 2015 22:07 BlackCompany wrote: So what do you guys think. Marauders are actually more expensive than hellions even though hellions are cars and marauders are just dudes in a combat suite. Is the 100 minerals for a hellion just the car insurance? So you actually just loose 100 minerals for insurance and not the value of the car?
This would explain why hellion, as a mech unit that attack with something like a flamethrower, does not cost gas ><
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
the fact you are insulting instead of saying a counterargument proves that I'm right, like always.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
the fact you are insulting instead of saying a counterargument proves that I'm right, like always.
Your argument to Raven imba is zergs don't build swarmhosts.
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
the fact you are insulting instead of saying a counterargument proves that I'm right, like always.
Your argument to Raven imba is zergs don't build swarmhosts.
ravens are not being built so they are not imba, like swarmhosts
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
the fact you are insulting instead of saying a counterargument proves that I'm right, like always.
You need to have a point for me to counter-argue. Which you don't have. The fact that you behave like a 5 year old isn't helping either. I guess you will post more about how am i "insulting" you now and that it prooves that you are right. It does not. And now you can write what you want to feel better because i won't reply and waste my time
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Good thing I'm not (and couldn't be for that matter) a pro zerg player, I would get suicidal after playing against mech. Playing against that bullshit as your job? Damn broskis.
On August 07 2015 22:21 Keeemy wrote: Good thing I'm not (and couldn't be for that matter) a pro zerg player, I would get suicidal after playing against mech.
I think that you'd get used to it if you actually went pro.
On August 07 2015 22:21 Keeemy wrote: Good thing I'm not (and couldn't be for that matter) a pro zerg player, I would get suicidal after playing against mech.
And all that of a scouted 11/11. Altough very early. Would be cool if the drone went back without revealing the scout and Life just smashes the attack when it arrives
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
the fact you are insulting instead of saying a counterargument proves that I'm right, like always.
You need to have a point for me to counter-argue. Which you don't have. The fact that you behave like a 5 year old isn't helping either. I guess you will post more about how am i "insulting" you now and that it prooves that you are right. It does not. And now you can write what you want to feel better because i won't reply and waste my time
i know i know, you struggle against mech on ladder and want to blame the game instead of yourself. Whenever a zerg pro beats a terran mech player you say "but the terran did xy wrong. Okay I let you believe that so you can feel better. I'm a nice guy.
On August 07 2015 22:22 BlackCompany wrote: And all that of a scouted 11/11. Altough very early. Would be cool if the drone went back without revealing the scout and Life just smashes the attack when it arrives
On August 07 2015 21:53 Charoisaur wrote: "mech is unbeatable in lategame"
mech player loosing 40 SCVs early game and throwing his tanks away twice certainly helps beating it. But i guess you dont care about that
He also taught me that if people complain about mass raven being unbeatable and the player who can make ravens loses without building any ravens that proves ravens are beatable.
"mass swarmhosts are unbeatable" Prove that it isn't true, I haven't seen this composition lose since the last patch
If you are saying stupid shit just for the sake of talking stupid shit then i would appreciate it if you could do that elsewhere and leave the lr
the fact you are insulting instead of saying a counterargument proves that I'm right, like always.
You need to have a point for me to counter-argue. Which you don't have. The fact that you behave like a 5 year old isn't helping either. I guess you will post more about how am i "insulting" you now and that it prooves that you are right. It does not. And now you can write what you want to feel better because i won't reply and waste my time
i know i know, you struggle against mech on ladder and want to blame the game instead of yourself. Whenever a zerg pro beats a terran mech player you say "but the terran did xy wrong. Okay I let you believe that so you can feel better. I'm a nice guy.
Such mindless balance whine. He made bbyong get an absurd amount of bases without threatening any of those. Heck, he even had one in his half of the map close to two of his expansions lol. Life didn't play well and Bbyong did, end of the story.
On August 07 2015 22:21 RaFox17 wrote: Don´t go straight macro against mech. You lose.
Unless you're soO
Well soO is the best player in the world, that doesn't count
I hoped Life studied soO for this match..
He tried to be cool rather than to win so definetly not. soO is boring and predictable but he is a ball of anti mech death
His engagements would have been surely efficient enough if he didn't just forget to scout the map for undefendable terran bases. It was cool AND effective but BByong had too much economy for no reason.
Not to suggest that mech isn't too strong in TvZ, but Life didn't exactly do much that game to threaten Bbyong. If you're not going to beat mech in super late game, surely you should try to win the game earlier on? Overlord drops in the main to kill production, split pushes, etc....
On August 07 2015 22:25 Wildmoon wrote: Actually it doesn't matter in balance discussion whem mech loses. :D
Haven't you heard it. A strategy that can win is OP according to zergs.
This is hilarious from someone who called flying locust the death of mech.
It is. ask avilo he massively complained about them on stream. He had a game he had won but still had to play an hour more because the zerg just ran around with SHs and spawned locusts because no terran unit can catch them.
On August 07 2015 22:21 RaFox17 wrote: Don´t go straight macro against mech. You lose.
Unless you're soO
Well soO is the best player in the world, that doesn't count
I hoped Life studied soO for this match..
He tried to be cool rather than to win so definetly not. soO is boring and predictable but he is a ball of anti mech death
His engagements would have been surely efficient enough if he didn't just forget to scout the map for undefendable terran bases. It was cool AND effective but BByong had too much economy for no reason.
Oh yeah that was really dumb from Life too Tho this style is shit. it's not costeffective in any way. soO beat innovation on echo in a macro game with his I will stick to the skt style anti mech
On August 07 2015 22:30 Absentia wrote: Not to suggest that mech isn't too strong in TvZ, but Life didn't exactly do much that game to threaten Bbyong. If you're not going to beat mech in super late game, surely you should try to win the game earlier on? Overlord drops in the main to kill production, split pushes, etc....
On August 07 2015 22:25 Wildmoon wrote: Actually it doesn't matter in balance discussion whem mech loses. :D
Haven't you heard it. A strategy that can win is OP according to zergs.
This is hilarious from someone who called flying locust the death of mech.
It is. ask avilo he massively complained about them on stream. He had a game he had won but still had to play an hour more because the zerg just ran around with SHs and spawned locusts because no terran unit can catch them.
Hahahahahaahahahahahahah rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl THANK YOU
I know Life has to try this but it just doesnt work. It will not work. The blinding clouds did not even get half the tanks and the map has to many chokes. And he has not dealt with the banshees in any game so far
On August 07 2015 22:39 BlackCompany wrote: I know Life has to try this but it just doesnt work. It will not work. The blinding clouds did not even get half the tanks and the map has to many chokes. And he has not dealt with the banshees in any game so far
I've screamed "deal with the banshees" so much today
On August 07 2015 22:39 BlackCompany wrote: I know Life has to try this but it just doesnt work. It will not work. The blinding clouds did not even get half the tanks and the map has to many chokes. And he has not dealt with the banshees in any game so far
I've screamed "deal with the banshees" so much today
D:
It's really sad when considering the amount of infestors he builds :/
And yeah that's the last nail in the coffin for Life
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I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
On August 07 2015 22:54 deacon.frost wrote: Why no all in, Life? Why?
He took his chances with macro. I don't get it either but I think he thought about it around the mid game when he had a bunch of lings and roaches.
He don't know how to play vs mech(ironically he has Flash in team). Just accept it and do all ins, the same way Protoss were all ining Zerg players in WoL.
Well, MECH in the hands of a Korean top Terran vs Korean top Zerg is unbeatable IF : the Zerg attacks head on into chockes , doesn't move all those static defence to newly created hatcheries , doesn't starve the Terran out, doesn't put pressure early on.
On August 07 2015 22:57 x0x0 wrote: Well, MECH in the hands of a Korean top Terran vs Korean top Zerg is unbeatable IF : the Zerg attacks head on into chockes , doesn't move all those static defence to newly created hatcheries , doesn't starve the Terran out, doesn't put pressure early on.
The anti whining :D MECH IS UNBEATABLE if zerg plays like shit.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
To be fair i think Life tried to attack with roach/ling in G3 but with 3 tanks in the natural behind a wall there is like 0 chance for that to work. That's why tried to go for the macro. I wish he had thought about something extreme like a nydus in the main and then hit the third or something
On August 07 2015 20:34 Spinoza wrote: sOs is the kind of player that would cheat on his girlfriend with your girlfriend, then pickpocket money out of her purse, then call you up; hey buddy, wanna go have a beer, you are buying friend
haha i like this.
that's why he's awesome :p
He's the dirtiest Protoss out there still, for some reason, I like him
Korean version of Naniwa
Come on, nobody likes Naniwa, many people do like sOs!
Well, players seem to hate him especially rogue. E him is referring to sOs
But players hate him because he is unpredictable and good ... not because of his personlity. Naniwa is just what TLO called him.
yep I remember translating that article and posting on TL
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote: Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant.
Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then?
The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land.
On August 07 2015 22:53 stuchiu wrote: soO is a God
Just cause it's the truth doesn't mean you should just drop it outside of any context like that
"soO is a God because he has won vs mech"
If I recall correctly, Dark and Impact won too against mech last SPL round. Those SKT zergs.
I just watched that Dark game yesterday. He was alllowed to macro up to mass queen/ultra before Bravo even thought about attacking. Still though, SKT zergs do seem to know what they're doing vs Mech a lot more than KT
On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote: Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant.
Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then?
The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land.
Also they are light and thors are good against light flying units last time I checked
Not sure how it work in the game though, that's me theorycrafting
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
On August 07 2015 23:03 RKC wrote: Life gave up on GSL because Dream isn't in it, the same way Dream gave up on SSL last night because Life got knocked out earlier.
On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote: Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant.
Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then?
The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land.
Yeah but the locusts landing on a target will ensure that siege tanks help to kill the landing targets of the locusts. So my point was that SH are more effective when siege tanks are around vs when they are not But yeah, they get shot out of the air anyway :/
On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote: Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant.
Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then?
The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land.
Yeah but the locusts landing on a target will ensure that siege tanks help to kill the landing targets of the locusts. So my point was that SH are more effective when siege tanks are around vs when they are not But yeah, they get shot out of the air anyway :/
On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote: Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant.
Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then?
The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land.
Yeah but the locusts landing on a target will ensure that siege tanks help to kill the landing targets of the locusts. So my point was that SH are more effective when siege tanks are around vs when they are not But yeah, they get shot out of the air anyway :/
And all that while ignoring their cost or supply
Oh I thought you were the one who made the first comment ^^. Anyway yes they are horrible horrible horrible (but maybe a little less horrible when siege tanks are around)
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno.
Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno.
Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno.
Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno.
Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
very possible, he also doesn't like SC2
Such a shame. Now that he's let loose from KeSPA teams, he might as well return to BW, stream Afreeca and provide some real competition to Bisu
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
There was a time when Flash looked unstoppable with thor hellbat bio vs Z for about 2 months before it got figured out, now that composition is laughed at. Life didn't figure out how to counter mass banshee mech comps in under 4 hours. Bbyong made alot of composition switches and managed to dictate the tempo of the game in the two series today, doesn't mean mech is unstoppable. I'm sure some coaches are looking at the replays and vods and realizing all the timings Life could have hit. Bbyong's mech was also almost entirely different from Innovation's mech, minimal turrets, mass thor, mass banshees vs no banshees, less tanks. Just because they made roughly the same units doesn't mean it's just one generic blob build. I would even go as far as to say Life's composition may have worked better vs Innovation's composition but got hit by something different.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno.
Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
very possible, he also doesn't like SC2
Where exactly is that coming from?
iirc he popped on some BJ's Afreeca stream practicing BW during his last break, but, not happily, decided not to switch back since he didn't play BW well enough
On August 07 2015 23:08 Penev wrote: On the bright side: A Terran made it through
On the not-so-bright side, he'll likely knock out Flash next round (Bbyong can be a real passion-killer)
He is but he apologizes for it. Hard to be mad at him :|
Bbyong reminds me of Supernova or Ryung. Always hanging there in the middle, showing lots of promise and good plays, knocking out top players convincingly and having a generally likable drama-free personality. But never quite having enough fuel left for the last mile.
On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote: I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually.
They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt?
No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times.
I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
There was a time when Flash looked unstoppable with thor hellbat bio vs Z for about 2 months before it got figured out, now that composition is laughed at. Life didn't figure out how to counter mass banshee mech comps in under 4 hours. Bbyong made alot of composition switches and managed to dictate the tempo of the game in the two series today, doesn't mean mech is unstoppable. I'm sure some coaches are looking at the replays and vods and realizing all the timings Life could have hit. Bbyong's mech was also almost entirely different from Innovation's mech, minimal turrets, mass thor, mass banshees vs no banshees, less tanks. Just because they made roughly the same units doesn't mean it's just one generic blob build. I would even go as far as to say Life's composition may have worked better vs Innovation's composition but got hit by something different.
There were minimal turrets cause there were only 7 mutas in 5 games. Good mech reacts to what zerg does to a large extent after Life attacked bbyond with roach on coda he started building thors asap because almost any zerg will add some mutas there Life didn't so bbyong cut thor production and just massed tank banshee thor.
This isn't some new style bbyong is pulling out of his ass he has played it for a very long time (it just used to have ravens too cause sh) Life has died to this before he knows what bbyong was gonna play he had the time to prepare but did so poorly so he lost. Aside from Echo being an imba mech map he should have never lost the game on cactus. After bbyong was so slowed down rather than capitalizing on it Life just played for the super late game and let bbyong max. He could have allined or played the standard style of muta -> RHV -> Ultra queen infestor while pumping double air upgrades -> corruptor sweep -> ultra queen infestor or mutas.
He didn't deny bases well and let bbyong get away with a double hidden expo.
Bbyong and Life are very alike both like to play agressive both play their own unique style and both use builds that look awesome when they work and shit when they backfire.
On August 08 2015 00:07 swag_bro wrote: Yeah the only reason Life lost to someone like Bbyong is because he is in a slump.
Does anyone honestly believe that Bbyong is a top 5 Terran?
It's pretty hard to name a top 5 terran list atm. There is Innovation and then?
This is more true
I think Maru is still pretty good and should be considered top 2
I agree. There's bogus and Maru. Dream has fallen off pretty hard recently.
Yep, Dream would have been another terran easily top 5 material, but not sure anymore. But who is there atm? Really hard to say tbh :D
Same for Zerg though
I think zerg is easier. There's soO, rogue, byul, dark and life.
Hah! Now that you say it i have to agree tbh, but I would put Curious in the top 5 and remove Life
I'd still put Life above curious. I'm not convinced that curious current form is something that will last. I also think the only reason life got knocked out was because he faced bbyong in the first match. I think he beats every other person in this group. It was an odd situation where Life couldn't beat bbyong and bbyong couldn't beat sos, so life had the misfortune of playing bbyong twice. If it was sos vs life and bbyong vs stork in the first match, I think life would come out in second by beating sos twice.
On August 08 2015 00:07 swag_bro wrote: Yeah the only reason Life lost to someone like Bbyong is because he is in a slump.
Does anyone honestly believe that Bbyong is a top 5 Terran?
It's pretty hard to name a top 5 terran list atm. There is Innovation and then?
This is more true
I think Maru is still pretty good and should be considered top 2
I agree. There's bogus and Maru. Dream has fallen off pretty hard recently.
Yep, Dream would have been another terran easily top 5 material, but not sure anymore. But who is there atm? Really hard to say tbh :D
Same for Zerg though
I think zerg is easier. There's soO, rogue, byul, dark and life.
Hah! Now that you say it i have to agree tbh, but I would put Curious in the top 5 and remove Life
I'd still put Life above curious. I'm not convinced that curious current form is something that will last. I also think the only reason life got knocked out was because he faced bbyong in the first match. I think he beats every other person in this group. It was an odd situation where Life couldn't beat bbyong and bbyong couldn't beat sos, so life had the misfortune of playing bbyong twice. If it was sos vs life and bbyong vs stork in the first match, I think life would come out in second by beating sos twice.
As i said in the Week 4 lineups thread i think Life has around 50% winrate (a little less actually) in the "form" column of aligulac (i am not sure what timeframe that covers though, aligulac is down for me atm too -.-) I don't think this is good enough to be considered a top 5 zerg tbh, i also don't think Life would have beaten sOs, at least not necessarily. Stork simply isn't that good. Curious' gameplay looks pretty good atm on the other hand, so i absolutely think you have to put him in the top 5 :D
On August 08 2015 02:08 swag_bro wrote: Top 5 Terran are:
1. Maru 2. Innovation 3. Fantasy 4. Dream 5. Flash
I'd wait until Fantasy does more in Korea before rating him so highly, but other than that I agree with swag_bro for once. Also wtf is up with the starleagues? Maru/Dream/Life out of SSL Life/Dream out of GSL, this is madness
On August 08 2015 02:08 swag_bro wrote: Top 5 Terran are:
1. Maru 2. Innovation 3. Fantasy 4. Dream 5. Flash
I'd wait until Fantasy does more in Korea before rating him so highly, but other than that I agree with swag_bro for once. Also wtf is up with the starleagues? Maru/Dream/Life out of SSL Life/Dream out of GSL, this is madness
I will give you that, about Fantasy... but its definitely not this Bbyong kid.
And those players are out of those tournaments because they are in slumps. When players are in slumps, they lose to vastly inferior opponents like Bbyong because they make mistakes. Probably tired or something to add.
And I think the college entrance exams are coming up in Korea, so that explains Life's losses recently. He is studying.
On August 08 2015 00:07 swag_bro wrote: Yeah the only reason Life lost to someone like Bbyong is because he is in a slump.
Does anyone honestly believe that Bbyong is a top 5 Terran?
It's pretty hard to name a top 5 terran list atm. There is Innovation and then?
This is more true
I think Maru is still pretty good and should be considered top 2
I agree. There's bogus and Maru. Dream has fallen off pretty hard recently.
Yep, Dream would have been another terran easily top 5 material, but not sure anymore. But who is there atm? Really hard to say tbh :D
Same for Zerg though
I think zerg is easier. There's soO, rogue, byul, dark and life.
Hah! Now that you say it i have to agree tbh, but I would put Curious in the top 5 and remove Life
I'd still put Life above curious. I'm not convinced that curious current form is something that will last. I also think the only reason life got knocked out was because he faced bbyong in the first match. I think he beats every other person in this group. It was an odd situation where Life couldn't beat bbyong and bbyong couldn't beat sos, so life had the misfortune of playing bbyong twice. If it was sos vs life and bbyong vs stork in the first match, I think life would come out in second by beating sos twice.
As i said in the Week 4 lineups thread i think Life has around 50% winrate (a little less actually) in the "form" column of aligulac (i am not sure what timeframe that covers though, aligulac is down for me atm too -.-) I don't think this is good enough to be considered a top 5 zerg tbh, i also don't think Life would have beaten sOs, at least not necessarily. Stork simply isn't that good. Curious' gameplay looks pretty good atm on the other hand, so i absolutely think you have to put him in the top 5 :D
Life did beat sOs in SSL recently. Point is looking at Aligulac Bbyong is essentially a hard counter to Life for some reason, not to mention the strength of mech vs zerg right now and how Bbyong is already a terran predisposed to go mech. I'd give specific stats but atm aligulac is broken
Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.
to be fair the only unit that's decent against BCs is horrible against everything else in the entire game
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.
Mech is a problem for every zerg on the planet. And as mentioned earlier hydras are the best bet because the only other good option is corruptors, which you REALLY don't want if you can help it
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.
Mech is a problem for every zerg on the planet. And as mentioned earlier hydras are the best bet because the only other good option is corruptors, which you REALLY don't want if you can help it
Hydras do less damage than corruptors vs armored targets get hit by tanks don't have 5 armor 200 hp and cost the same supply. 3/3 corruptors/queen has always been the best zerg anti air. Dunno why Life is using hydras. Mech is a problem sure but Life has a lot more trouble with it than most. soO/Dark seem very comfortable playing against it.
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.
Mech is a problem for every zerg on the planet. And as mentioned earlier hydras are the best bet because the only other good option is corruptors, which you REALLY don't want if you can help it
Hydras do less damage than corruptors vs armored targets get hit by tanks don't have 5 armor 200 hp and cost the same supply. 3/3 corruptors/queen has always been the best zerg anti air. Dunno why Life is using hydras. Mech is a problem sure but Life has a lot more trouble with it than most. soO/Dark seem very comfortable playing against it.
Again, I KNOW corruptors are better against BCs than hydras. But hydras are better than corruptors at virtually everything else, making the decision to make corruptors not something that you want to do. And yes hydras get hit by sieged tanks, but they also HIT said sieged tanks.
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